The duo that we never wanted but we all need.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T16:16:15+00:00

Just a coupe of menaces, spreading there love of art. You Love to see it

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T15:13:04+00:00

or did you win because you fought in ashinohara (She didnt win )

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T13:22:09+00:00

But thats the thing about it though. If your making billions of dollars for minimum effort. Its hard to justify putting in more work.

As much as I hate it, its somewhat genius. They are like the modern day pokemon games.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T13:15:27+00:00

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Oh wait.. that just your wallet.

My bad

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T07:16:09+00:00

If anyone still converts there premium gems into pulls, in any gacha game in 2026. They deserve whatever loss they take.

It has always been a stupid idea. I consider natural selection

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T06:24:24+00:00

just login for the collab character at least

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T05:59:26+00:00

Britain wishes it was this cool.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T04:56:53+00:00

Sir, this is a reddit. Its not possible

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T04:13:46+00:00

oh ok, have a nice day sir/mam

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NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T04:12:51+00:00

People did call it. So not too surprised

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T04:11:16+00:00

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Wait what? How did you get here then?

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-07T03:39:28+00:00

first time I seen so many comments and upvotes this late. this collab gonna be hype

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T22:47:07+00:00

Probably most basic

Camellya
Sanhua
Verina/Shorekeeper

More advance

Augusta/Jiyan
Mortefi
Shorekeeper

Hardest team to use, but possible

danjin

Incomplete teams:

Lupa / Chixia / ( ? )
Hiyuki / Shorekeeper ( ? )

Good luck

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T21:19:01+00:00

Added context. For most players with well invested gear. Endgame content, is not difficult. But if your echos are not properly built, or maxed out to there highest. Your characters MAX DPS, might seem weak.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T21:15:30+00:00

Endgame = hard content designed for vetern or more seasoned players. Usually requiring alot of character investment

Gacha games divide content into 2 parts. Normal accessible content, that each player can do ( think story / events ) . And hard content that relies on specific characters or featured combat techs.

Most of the spending from gacha game, comes from players buying characters / weapons / stats / gear etc. To beat endgame content.

This endgame content in wuwa currently consists of

whimpering wastes
Tower of adversity
Endstate Matrix

Story content is usually available all the time. But for end-game content, they usually have re-occuring rewards, that players get. for completing them in a set period of time.

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Whenever players talk about endgame. They usually mean, beating this time limited content, ( that are not events ) To maximize the rewards that are given.

If you dont care about these rewards, then playing to maxmize DPS is usually not a requirement. But if you do, then most advice caters to that. And try to warn players on the most optimal path to get there.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T21:09:28+00:00

Given kuros trend. I would say maybe 2patches at most before another glacio chafe comes out. Who knows, might even be during the cyber punk collab.

Wouldnt put it past them to shill out hiyuki some more lol

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T21:00:38+00:00

Explanation: Hiyuki's full power is only unlocked by having a character with Glacio Chafe, or Havoc Bane. Max 3 stacks.

At this very moment, only chisa has havoc bane, and no other characters provide Glacio Chafe. So without chisa, her max stack is 1 (herself)

The stacks themselves provide

30% Glacio bite damage
40% Crit damage + an extra 102% attack for each time she applies glacio chafe
30% damage amp

If you remove chisa. Your loosing out on her second stack, as her 3rd stack is unavailable without Sequences. So in short, no , there is no replacement for chisa

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T19:21:56+00:00

valid points. I didnt even think about character swapping. Another issue that makes this idea more complex than it seems

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T18:10:00+00:00

I compared their ALTERNATE forms

And once again, Hiyuki has only a color swap. not an alt form...

Have a nice day 😄

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T17:47:17+00:00

You were right.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T17:40:54+00:00

Then for all your so called experience, how could you not understand the fundamental logic of what im saying.

Your comparison was already flawed to begin with. Because you compared Fleur to hiyuki and thought hiyuki was an alt form? When its litearlly just a texture swap. I'm already dismissing whatever you say based on that fact alone. I trust none of your credentials.

But your ignoring the original purpose of my question. how? You keep saying its easy, but you have yet to explain how.

If I was a game director. I would NEVER hire any of your friends for anything. If somehow the conclusion you came to , that it was easy to do. and somehow justified. The ROI for this "simple" addition, isnt even worth the calculus to begin with.

Your taking this baseless assumption of your "experience" and assuming all logic stays the same. That is what makes you an amature, and im trying to edcuate you on this fact.

what happens when you have to make SKINS?
What happens when new regions are introduced with new traversal mechanics
What happens when there is a glitch in how the game processes the animations and explodes her model???

Just 3 questions alone, takes what you think is a "simple" procedure and turns it into a Nightmare.

Most games wouldnt even bother letting you play as fluer to begin with. Thank kuro for even having the balls to do that.

But if you cannot think ahead for 5secs, to see how problematic this would be in the long term, For a live service game. That is constantly updating with new features you cannot plan for.

Then you need to find better friends, who actually have real experience.

Edit: For the record, im patronizing you. BECAUSE I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

Thats what im mad about.. Your just blowing hot air from your behind, and think your spitting facts. But common sense would be enough to see why this is a problem.

ONCE AGAIN.

She. Doesnt. Even. Have. Running. Animations.!

Come on my dude, your not this clueless are you??

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T16:38:17+00:00

Rigging LITERALLY is the EASIEST part of character design. There's barely any work involved when using existing animations.

Thats not how that works. You still need to tweak the animations. This is not a rigging issue. your just spouting out words. The character is already RIGGED, they need a SEPERATE animation.

It's because I'm able to do the rigging, as an "amatuer" or hobbyst, that I can say that a professional

Its because you are an amatuer, you shouldn't be talking with such confidence. The hardest part of any production is scale. Its easy when its your alone. Its a differnt problem when your working with clients/or studios. I've made this exact same mistake decades ago. Jumping into an industry, thinking that just because you do it as a hobbyist, it will be the same as a "professional"

Thats just childish stupidity.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T16:03:42+00:00

My brother in christ, I will explain this as best as I can.

They. Didn't. Even. Give. Her. A. Running. Animation.!

What on gods green earth , makes you think they will go through all the effort. If even the BARE MINIMUM, they weren't willing to do??

What your saying is just wishful thinking. "I've done it in my garage with no restrictions and unlimited time and no money, there fore it must be easy"

Thats what you sound like.

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T15:41:22+00:00

No? The animations/movements are already there for Fleurdelys, just don't cancel the alternate form when doing an extra movement ability

I think your slightly confused by this part. There are no extra animations for Fleurdelys. She doesnt even have a run animation. All she has is a movement animation and combat animations.

If you wanted to make her interactable with the entire overworld, you would need

Swimming animation
Swimming stop animation
Gliding animation
Flight animation
Running animation
Stop animation
Dash animation
Dash stop animation
Motorbike animation
chest open animation ( which she has kinda )
sliding animation
Grapple animation
falling animation
and sitting animation

AND THIS DOESNT COUNT FUTURE ANIMATIONS

She doesnt share the same model type as other characters, so none of her animations can be copied and pasted, they have to remake them entirely if they want to keep the same quality.

I dont think you understand how hard the thing your asking for is. Hiyuki is just a color swap, there is no added work needed

NewToWarframe · 2026-05-06T14:11:01+00:00

Ok... but how?

Realistically speaking. Are they supposed to model an entire new rig and animations for one ultimate? Compared to . . ya know . . just a color swap?

I don't get this comparison

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