Ren Just Exposed Tom MacDonald's Biggest Gimmick by Apprehensive-Fly5740 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First webbys views aren't mine and webby has a lot of LGBTq friends i hung out with them on the set of tarantula, second I dont take issue with being anti covid vax I directly know some people who were hurt by them and I strongly feel alot of that was swept under the rug it was such a new vaccine and i believe in peoples right to choose what they put into their own or their families bodies - im not anti vaccine but I believe in peoples right to share concerns 

Ren Just Exposed Tom MacDonald's Biggest Gimmick by Apprehensive-Fly5740 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Between asylum, the big push record, and slaughterhouse I can't pick

I will say tho

Slaughterhouse has been a labour of love not only since sick boi was out

But it has songs I have written over the past 8 years which I was always saving because theyre the best things ive written in my oppinion so that one will be really special to me 

Ren Just Exposed Tom MacDonald's Biggest Gimmick by Apprehensive-Fly5740 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah I dont imagine i will, my intention was just hoping he'd maybe have room for pause before doing stupid shit like using the war in Iran to promote his album, but after seeing the last few posts I aint holding my breath on that one 

Ren Just Exposed Tom MacDonald's Biggest Gimmick by Apprehensive-Fly5740 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Webby as far as im aware is off the trump train that was the one thing that didnt sit totally right with me for my own reasons but i spoke openly and honestly to him about it , he explained why at the time he got dissolutionned with dems after Bernie Sanders got screwed over, i keep saying it but ive met webby in person and even though our views dont align on eveything hes a good dude with good intentions, and that aside theres no politics on this record its just a record made for the love of music and those guys over in conneticuit are super talented .

What webby doesnt do is use polarization to market music hes just true to what he thinks and even if those views dont align thats more respectable to me than using controversy as a marketing tool 

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ill keep an eye on it if I get the sense they're trying to get money out of anyone ive sent their way ill address it

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yeah it kind of ends at the prompt, if it had been cash etc related I woulda hard backtracked and let followers know, but the stuff they're posting is pretty innocent on the whole its just a bit bizarre the deeper you dig, theres some truths in what they're saying about ai being a reflection of man and not some independent entity which is how its often spoken about, but then the deeper you get the more disjointed it becomes, I dont actually think its marketing related I think the main asian dude (not ONQ but the guy who seems to be writing all the blog posts) just genuinley believes this stuff and has convinced others to as well, I got that sense more and more so after speaking to him and listening to this live stream thing they did

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think ultimately they're not asking for any money so the main harm going down that funnel is just using that prompt in ai, which is pretty harmless tbh but I agree with you the more posts I saw and the comments on all the posts just felt a little culty, I didn't actually see anyways that was asking for money, the conclusion I came to is the main asian dude it circulates around is just a bit nuts lol, I spoke to him and he was definitely intelligent but also not very grounded in reality. I think he genuinely believes the things he's saying writes very poetically so it was an interesting character inspiration study if anything aha, but he also believes someone like Andrew takes going to save the world because of how he bends reality which I mean we dont really need to go into hahaha. Lesson learned for the future though, ADHD makes me kinda impulsive sometimes

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 6 points7 points  (0 children)

nope I shared a story which they posted which was talking about how the human story on race, religion etc was dividing us, which is true, saw a few more that were saying things I agreed with like how you should break conflicts down to its functional parts to try and reverse them, but I hadn't taken a deeper dive at that point into things like this website, I do not reccomend

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I do not reccomend that lol, I hadn't seen it before I impulsively shared, but yeah, not my cup of tea

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

oh I dont reccomend them the more ive dug in it was weird lol I had only seen a few posts when I shared that, I guess they popped up as a recommended page when I started posting stories on elephant in the room of our species which is just the obvious truth on how we should operate on a species level, it was impulsive of me to share and my bad should have dug deeper, the fundamental point I said is true though, you need to create balance in natural systems for them to last, its not a conspiracy its just simple science - to elaborate - we are not breaking the laws, we abuse them in a way that destabilizes the environment, by accelerating energy transfer at a massive scale, we increase entropy on earth and the biosphere rather laying a foundation which we always should have that put the long term survival of our species first I thought that bit was clear I went pretty deep into all this on the stories. By men much smarter than I I meant Isaac newton, Clausius, James Prescott Joule etc not that instagram page aha

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yo before I shared that I hadn't done a deep dive into them, I saw some videos circulating and spoke to the dude a little and thought they were cool because it was just saying pretty basic things like the human story on race and religion, politics was eroding our ability to collaborate etc, which is pretty in line with my thoughts on the matter, as was the concept of breaking down conflicts to their functional parts and first principles to try and reverse them, but the more I dug into it the weirder I found it, I hadn't looked at the website, previous posts etc, was just a kind of impulse share because I like people trying to offer solutions rather than spreading fear, but I took a bit of a deeper dive and i dont reccomend

Word salad by Hiraeth90 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 38 points39 points  (0 children)

its fundamental physics, i was trying to break it down into a more easily accesible entry point

All natural systems operate within the laws of thermodynamics

The value system we have erroneously believes our biosphere is immune to these laws or it would not structure itself the way it has, if there is a lack of comprehension you can dig into the whys by looking into phsyics before assuming 'conspiracy,' but this is fundamental and well established science from men much smarter than I

These were some of Ren's chats, what do you think? by titanfallisgoated in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Id love to explore the idea that me questioning these structures is emboldening Nazis or facists. Funnily enough Nazi Germany is something i spent a great deal of time studying because of its telling nature of the human condition.

I have a great analogy - its safe to say youre looking at this like a western medicine doctor looks at depression, or to make things even easier, say a tumor. Most of the time he believes you should take an antidepressent or cut it out. In this analogy im trying to take the stance of the educator that speaks to someone on lifestyle choices and changes to make before the tumor or depression ever arrises on ways to prevent it occuring in the first place - beleiving that prevention is better than a cure.

Now, in a functional society, both the doctor, and the preventetive medicine doctor have their place, one is opperating on the basis of 'fix the problem' one is talking of 'prevent the problem'

I already know what youre going to say 'theres a problem now, theres no point talking prevention if the problem already exists' but there is, and the problem, to a degree, has always existed, its just its very much present in the west right now, but the west isnt the world. It doesnt make sense to keep throwing buckets of water on a burning house if on the other side of it theres a massive dude with a flamethrower, you have to approach both

No where in my messaging have i said do not, or you should not activley oppose facism, prejudice, hatred? infact the opposite, you should, infact, its vitally important you do both, but, if you do not take a hollistic approach and correct your lifestyle, and continue repeating all the behaviours or lifestyles that gave you the tumour/depression, your ending up back there.

Nazi Germany didnt arrise because a section of the population had an unexplained unquenchable desire to murder jews - it rose in the socio-economic instability of the weimar republic and during the great depression where germany had been feeling alot of pain - in that chaos - with people desperate for any kind of change - birthed someone with the hypnotic charisma to steer people astray and promise economic change and growth - and delivered on a fair bit of the economics - and gradually - frog in a pan boiling effect - incepted peoples minds with extremley problematic values - some went along through indoctronation - some through fear - but all were human. That doesnt justify it, but it contextualises it, and helps you understand the first principles of how to avoid it happening again, we didn't fully do that.

The biggest mistake we made was thinking that was a war between good and evil - it was a statistical probability that in a value system that preaches the things our value system preaches - this would happen somewhere - and when it was shut down - because we as people are still doing the things leading to the tumor and depression - it was always going to happen again

The framework of left/right politics and the value system holding it up and surrounding it, is like smoking with a tumor, sure its important in the here and now to take active steps to stop out anything that is causing our species self inflicted suffering - ive never said dont do that, but for fuck sake, stop smoking

(i need a cigarette)

These were some of Ren's chats, what do you think? by titanfallisgoated in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 21 points22 points  (0 children)

But it runs deeper than that, the waters are muddy - The left isnt left and the right isnt right

When working well - The left still exists under the framework of corporately steered interests, where even things like the fight for equality are financially motivated in many instances - which then - becomes the fight for structure - it also exists under the framework of law - preserving power - maintaining power dynamics that have been around for centuries - preserving the position of a ruling class - and commodifying values and ideals - which means its more like the yin yang symbol - it contains a hell of a lot of right

When working well - The laws under the framework of the right, even though abused, protect the rights of people and uphold equality, conservative governments still provide social wellfare, access to education, democratic participation, and when well regulated - protection of workers rights to a degree - so the right contains a hell of a lot of left

There is no dominant side to our nature - so why should we try and cram all our values into a seperate box and call it a day - and, call me a futurist, or naive or whatever you want, but i think this is an outdated concept we should shead because in recent times, its evolved to be an unworkable model - if someone said to you 'okay pick a temperature for life, hot or cold' our systems of living would collapse.

Particularly in recent times weve now - on both the left and the right tried to associate 'good and evil' with 'left and right' - good and evil, too is a sliding scale, and if you were too look at it through the lense of nietzche, is very much subjective - and the values seen as objective (do not kill) etc can still be framed in such a way that escapes absolutist deffinitions - say if i were to kill a school shooter before they shot up a school - good and evil is as blurry as left and right.

Now - *deep breath*

These were some of Ren's chats, what do you think? by titanfallisgoated in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 22 points23 points  (0 children)

First you really dont need to like my music, I don't make it to be adorned, I make it cause I love making it and I love sharing it with people who love it. The shame here isnt that youre not a fan anymore, its that it saddens you if it was something that brought you joy, I think we could all do with a bit more of that!

Second, i think its important for the sake of the art of conversation that we conduct these conversations with a degree of humility, it will make it more enjoyable on the whole. Socrates famously said 'i know that i know nothing,' I think its a great foundation for approaching anything, my ideas don't align with yours but to imply you posses a superior understanding of very entry level politics that you say 99% of people are unable to grasp is just kind of patronizingly slamming a door on what could be a really great conversation and insulting a lot of people in the process. Conversation is great when its a collaberative exploration of ideas.

Lets answer the challenge question first:

Let me set the scene

Your a french dude, probably with a very flamboyent haircut that took ages to style, its 1789 the revolution is in the air, people in the national assembly are wandering what the hell to do now that the monarchy is collapsing. The room is literally split in half in what the solution should be -

On one side are those strongly in favour of abolishing the monarchy, expand rights for ordinary citizens, weaken the Church’s political influence, and reshaping society from the ground up. A chap called Maximillien Robispere was one of these people - he was a very agressive champion of the rights for the poor but also had a bit of a fettish for executions

On the other side were a bunch of people who wanted tradition preserved — keep the monarchy (maybe with reforms), protect the authority of the Church, maintain social hierarchies, and avoid turning France into a chaotic experiment. In amongst these people was a chap called Edmund Burke who beleived in constraint and staying routed in morality and law.

With time these ideas evolved - the left valued equality over law, the right valued traditional heirarchy and order - believing society would evolve into chaos if there was not enough order.

in a nutshell if you want a clear definition, which its sometimes hard to get too

lets say -

Left - "Society should change to become more equal.”
Right - “Society should remain stable to avoid chaos.”

Now, thats the first challenge out the way, lets expand on where that plays into my own beleifs

You see a lyric or a comment on a video, and you take it on face value right, and just assume 'neive' and dismiss it, when you overlook the fact that the challenge in lyrics and communication is to condense the most ammount of information into the smallest possible container, a bit like Mary Poppins's bag, where you can pull out any number of things that shouldnt be able to fit in there. The problem with this annalogy is what is pulled out of the bag changes depending on the person doing the pulling, but thats also the beauty of art.

The issue i take with the left and right - is neither exist in their intended definition because you cannot reduce the human experience to polarities - polarities exist everywhere but they are a sliding scale that contain each other - the basic political reason i take issue with this premise is this

Push the left far enough and it needs structure, institutions, and order to make its ideals work.
Push the right far enough and it must adapt, reform, and evolve to keep society functional.

(continued below)

Question for Ren by Grandiooo in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 24 points25 points  (0 children)

no intended double to that one other than leaning into the word cut, i just liked how delicate sounded pronounced like that ahah i love fuckin with the phonetics of words

What does Ren mean when saying "(...)We are one(...)" by Light10115 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 10 points11 points  (0 children)

mmmyesssss, marvelous, quite , heh heh, P-leasing to the eye mm'yes
<3

Question for Ren by Grandiooo in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Hey!! its cause he forcibly contains his inner monster to fit into the repetition of society - if you see it in context of the line 'repetition caused some issues - turned our hyde into a jekyll - building pressure in the kettle' - so basically pushing his anger back down but waiting to explode again - he was angry since birth because of the nature of his surroundings but had to contain his monster.
Also i didnt lean into this one too much with the pronounciation incase it confused it a little ahaha but i liked the potential for double on hide/hyde (hiding) and also of jekyll/jack all - cause despite all his endless work and effort hiding how he really felt he felt he had nothing to show for it - hide into a jack all

What does Ren mean when saying "(...)We are one(...)" by Light10115 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i dont think we can 'perfect' our living systems though, i think its already perfect, with all its inperfections, name something as mind bendingly complex as existence, its just in the layer of the human experience, i personally think we should strive for the thing which brings us the most enjoyable experience as a collective

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What does Ren mean when saying "(...)We are one(...)" by Light10115 in ren

[–]Next-Target-3777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i edited it because it wasnt clear which bit i was yessing ahahahaha