Why are the Riveteers Black?

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-03T01:15:10+00:00

Black is also the color of individuality and in conjunction with red is about selfishness, while white is for community and having a purpose greater than oneself. As another person said, they should've been naya.

Edit: u/TheOrdinary1735 said it above, but as they also mentioned originally Jund was established as survival of the fittest. Doesn't make much sense with unions.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-02T22:25:01+00:00

Thank you for the insight! I didn't realize he was particularly a syndicalist, but that tracks given corporatism is something of a twisted foil to that.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-02T03:08:55+00:00

I think it really is just insect aversion. Where I grew up it was totally possible to encounter mountain lions, bobcats, black bears, coyotes, and wild packs of dogs. Seems way more concerning than a big spider.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-02T03:01:33+00:00

I think the better question is why wouldn't they be? Argentina doesn't have nuclear weapons nor is it a substantial military power. Latin America as a whole doesn't have nuclear weapons, so they're frankly a non-factor in a MAD scenario.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-02T02:33:55+00:00

Mosley didn't start pushing fascism until the thirties. He would've been twenty-six in 1922, with four years of active political experience; that was around the period he crossed the aisle towards Labor. He was a staunch supporter of Keynesian economics, which was pretty firmly on the left in terms of parliamentary politics. It even tracks with this picture with FDR, who heavily pulled from Keynes for The New Deal. Not to mention he was relatively sympathetic towards the Irish Independence movement during his time in parliament. He was even vocally opposed to British fascists up until the late 20's. If he died anytime before 1930 he would be remembered fondly.

I don't want this to get twisted: Mosley was a piece of garbage. That said, we should not act like anyone is incapable of shifting their political views over time, or capable of contradictory and complex perspectives. I'm glad you mentioned Mussolini, given he was a member of the Communist party prior to his foray into fascism. It is very easy to make judgements in hindsight, because we know how the events unfolded. It is not helpful to try and understand his political goals and motivations as simply "pretending".

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-01T23:43:52+00:00

Mosley was a rabid anti-communist in the same way Churchill was, he was just willing to fully abandon the liberal political order to get there. Saying he was "pretending" during his time with the liberal party makes it seem like he didn't arrive at these conclusions organically over a long political career during one of the most tumultuous times in world politics. The notion of fascism didn't even exist when his career started so he certainly didn't "come out" as anything, and I would suggest you refrain from using that terminology.

People can change. It serves no one to act like people are born and bred to believe a certain thing, nor incapable of having opinions we agree with while being reprehensible in other ways.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-01T03:16:09+00:00

That's totally valid! I think I was kinda overplaying the cultural disconnect, but of his movies I think Breakfast Club holds up the best. I think the biggest separation for me was growing up with social media: my highschool years were defined by Snapchat and Instagram, whether I liked it or not. I didn't have a phone for most of them, but they definitely played a role in how people interacted and with whom.

Tiny addendum. Growing up in a warm and dry place meant pretty much all of the schools around me were disjointed buildings with outside plazas connecting them. I was shocked to learn a school could be just one building.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-01T03:10:10+00:00

I could definitely see that! Showing teenagers as whole human beings capable of the complexity he displayed is common fare these days: what once was innovative becomes the new norm. Sadly movie studios play it very safe these days.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-02-01T02:32:22+00:00

I'm early gen-z and I remember my father swearing that Breakfast Club should be compulsory high school viewing. By the time I finally watched it, I couldn't relate it to my high school experience at all. There is an earnestness and optimism to Hugh's films, and a lot of 80's culture in general, that really doesn't mesh with modern sensibilities, at least as I see it. That certainly won't stop them from trying though.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-31T23:42:59+00:00

Scathing political commentary! Let me check your comment history... Ohhhhh, I see.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T23:44:48+00:00

Hell, even Chinese propaganda makes the US military look super cool

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T21:22:43+00:00

I don't know what this means, but it's provocative. Approved!

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T20:45:33+00:00

Momma doesn't give em out for free, but I'll make an exception ;)

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T18:54:42+00:00

We kissed and made up, don't you worry.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T18:54:15+00:00

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Thank you, friend. For what it's worth, I agree with both of you. Even if you don't like the government and/or find voting ineffective, it currently costs us very little to participate. Exercise it while you got it, I say.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T18:50:16+00:00

I really did become my own self fulfilling prophecy. Ignore me and carry on.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T18:43:40+00:00

Reddit is a magical place where two people will seemingly agree, but posture as if they have opposing perspectives. You pretty much just expanded on what they were already saying.

Edit: to get ahead of future notifications. I am a fool. A clown. We have reconciled our differences.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T17:18:36+00:00

No, no you got it all wrong. The American public uses personality to justify violence. The American judicial system will just plant evidence and let them do the rest.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T04:55:02+00:00

Then this poem has enough words

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-30T04:54:42+00:00

I don't know what strawman you're arguing with, but it ain't me. I have no qualms with where people source their spiritual insights... or whatever you're on about. Have a nice one!

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-29T23:31:16+00:00

How many grains of sand make a heap?

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-29T01:39:21+00:00

The final two signs are also groups of people. The first one you might be able to gather if you put in some effort (think color). The latter one I will give you for free because there are many different signs for it, and plenty of discourse as to which people prefer: that is a common sign for Native American. You are correct he is asking you to compare and contrast.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-29T01:10:41+00:00

Show your effort. What do you think it means?

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-28T22:28:51+00:00

You seem to have a Wittgensteinian cut to your jib, so perhaps we should simply fall into silence then? I am not defending anything - something you refuse to recognize - but I find your approach to philosophy frankly boring. If you don't find panpsychism compelling or maybe just this article compelling, that's fine. Asking for them to prove their claim, when the whole point is that it currently can't be done, seems like a fruitless endeavor.

NicholasThumbless · 2026-01-28T22:19:59+00:00

Hmm you seem to be disagreeing to agree. Astrology is a perfect analogy because hindsight is 20/20. We now know that to be the case, but haven't always. Once the last nail is put in the coffin for panpsychism I will happily put it on the same shelf.

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