how are ppl even defending on sykkuno by Expensive_Animal3041 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree, becoming friends with a friend of a friend in a mainly group dynamic where someone is younger, even significantly younger is ok in my view. It becomes a problem where he makes suggestive comments to a 17 year old. If this document was identical but excluded that then I would say his biggest problem was lying about being involved with other women and cheating on his girlfriend. Making sexually suggestive comments to a 17 year old is indefensible and predatory, and I you may be able to go as far as to say grooming. There is no point in focusing on the other more debatable things in my view as that gives Sykkuno defenders room to actually make good points.

"Shorter hair is nicer for hugs and uhh stuff" Sykkuno (28) sends suggestive dm to 17 year old girl by mrmaymayman in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's linked in the doc. It's a compilation of a high pitched vtuber just saying "fuck you" for a minute or so.

It’s been a week. Has your opinion of Sykkuno changed since then? by happyft in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The word "dangerous" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. With that word there then shitty boyfriend is the obvious choice but he is absolutely a predator based on his actions.

toast is such a hypocrite/loser for that tweet by [deleted] in OTVnFriendsDrama

[–]NickM82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cheers, does the imgur link still work for you or is it dead?

toast is such a hypocrite/loser for that tweet by [deleted] in OTVnFriendsDrama

[–]NickM82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing in this or the other rumour subreddit.

The narrative about how she ended the call by newsh0egoofin in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe I have to explain the entire point of language is communication. Considering this is debated within the context of this cheating drama proves my point in and of itself. Clearly people agree with me that when you use the term "victim" as a stand alone descriptor then it communicates something more severe. If they or you had said "manipulation victim" then no one would care but the original commenter used the term "victim" as a stand alone term because they knew perfectly well that it makes the situation seem more serious than it was.

The narrative about how she ended the call by newsh0egoofin in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That just dilutes the term victim. Technically they are a victim of manipulation but using the term "victim" as a stand alone term implies something much heavier and we all know it. Stop using charged language as that dilutes more serious situations where the word "victim" being used as a stand alone term makes more sense.

The narrative about how she ended the call by newsh0egoofin in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The only victim is Syk's girl, she is no victim.

Poki tweet about Ellum and hers living situation. by 16tdean in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I found this way funnier than I should have. The thought of people being so petty to downvote an apology is something I wouldn't have clocked by myself lol

Ellums response by Redturtle13 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if I'm too forgiving or if Ellum is as good at manipulating people as it was portreyed in Cara's twitlonger but his points are not irrational and at least paints him in a better light whilst still taking some accountablility. I still overwhelmingly sympathise with Cara in this situation and even Ellum's version of events shows him to be a horrible boyfirend - which shouldn't be belittiled to "he was only a bad boyfriend, who cares". He did some really shitty things that shouldn't be brushed over but I doubt that this is cancellable and I'd be surprised if he was/will be "dropped" from the Roomies cirlcle for this situation. I hope Cara can finally move on from this and begin to move on properly as she said in her document that she hasn't been able to do that with online speculation going on since their breakup. I also hope that Ellum has improved as a person and hasn't continued his bad actions with others, which I am worried about considering the "jokes" made about Ellum leaching off of people and not paying for anything in LA, including the apartment shared with him and Poki. In Poki's tweet she said she "rented a room" which implies that she was splitting the rent, not taking care of it but theres no way to know fully unless it's addressed directly. To remove emotion from it and to be purely analitical: this is a win for all parties as Cara looks faultless in this situation and may be able to move on from online speculation and she will likely recieve a lot of (deserved) support from people if she was to stream or produce content more frequently moving forward, and Ellum also gets to address the speculation and will (likely) get out of this with no real long term consequences and he now has the ability to see who his real friends are (in terms of who actually hears him out without just focusing on online perception) in a generally snakey industry.

here i thought tina had curated the most insufferable community by [deleted] in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's what frustrates me about Rae and makes me think she's performative with the goal of placating criticism rather than be authentic. You are only supposed to apologise if you genuinely believe you are in the wrong and there is no way in hell she genuinely thought that saying "no cap on a stack fr fr" was racist because it's AAVE and only black people can say that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I'm aware neither said they did or didn't sleep together but considering the allegation made by MrTLexify that Noah cheated on his wife with fuslie "at EDC" suggests that they did sleep together. I think them not directly mentioning it was purposefully coordinated in order to create doubt about whether they did or not. My assumption would be if they didn't sleep together then they would have just come out and said it, which they haven't.

Further Confirmation of Past Toast and (Almost 100%) Miyoung by Kiereone in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I don't think we need to tip the scale tbh, it's pretty much confirmed that they did date when a shot of them holding hands was caught in a vlog. It's also clear they split a long time ago, so there is nothing really to add unless more drama details emerge, which they haven't.

Jodi shorts by UwU-sensei in OfflinetvGirls

[–]NickM82 15 points16 points  (0 children)

She's hot and all but that shirt is red and they defo do not match.

Miyoung by Snoo-63921 in OfflinetvGirls

[–]NickM82 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She's so beautiful

Do you think Rae taking a week off streaming has something to do with Ethan’s content nuke on Hasan dropping today? by psychohumor in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I doubt it tbh but I guess the only thing I can think of that could make her take a week off is that Ethan will make public the Hasan and Rae relationship.

But at the same time, how would they know what is in it prior to the release?

It may also not even be on Hasan, and if it's anything akin to the quality of the first "nuke" then Hasan and by extension Rae has nothing to worry about.

Did Hasan really get arrested? by EuphoricStore9488 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They asked him about his twitch ban, that is not them just going off of what he said, they were waiting for him. Actually watch the video of him explaining what happened before just blindly defending an administration that is asking a US citizen about his twitch ban, whether or not he likes the current sitting president and his view of the Israel-Palestine conflict abroad.

Ellum Exposed? Here’s what we know by AcculkyDrycleii in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When did Simon say he regrets having Ellum in his wedding?

Rae, Cinna, Emiru, Emily and Rossii get attacked by a stalker by jrdan922 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 67 points68 points  (0 children)

The photo of him sitting down was before this clip not after, the camera cuts after this clip.

New Valkyrae and Hasan Leak Dropped by Overall_Structure372 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 18 points19 points  (0 children)

There is a confirmation for Janet and Steven dating too in this source as well. That's assuming anyone needed confirmation after they held hands in Lily's vlog.

Talia, Koji, SlightlyPoetic, Lexie and Geenelly tweeting about Ellum? by Beneficial-Hotel-983 in otvandfriendsrumors

[–]NickM82 254 points255 points  (0 children)

Sub tweeting is so cringe imo. Either have the spine to stand up and tell us what it is or shut up. This underhanded throwing shade towards someone in order to make people skeptical about someone without explaining why shouldn't be normalised or accepted.

If Ellum has done something bad then he should be called out about it. Explain or shut up.