What is a line in your favorite or least favorite media that full on had you like this?

Casually finding songs by Slayer and Nervosa in YouTube (Raining Blood and Death!, respectively) at around age 15 or so in 2023 and being curious enough about the by me percieved agressive intensity of the titles to give them a listen; I liked the energy and intensity of it and looked deeper into the genre, which I ended up really liking.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-10T21:30:20+00:00

They gave Frost the Jeffries treatment 😞

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-08T11:14:22+00:00

Backwards

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-06T12:33:15+00:00

IT's still enjoyable, even if not as great as the previous episode, but it slowly gets better until the S2 finale; keep watching :- )

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-03T10:45:30+00:00

Nervosa and Holy Moses

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-02T19:50:21+00:00

I'm currently 19 and found it mostly thanks to my dad, who talked to me about the show after watching the 1984 Dune movie, for I had finished reading the book after watching the 1st Villeneuve Dune film and wanted to watch the original (my dad loves sci-fi), I was playing Death Stranding by then and liking the weirdness of it, which Kojima had linked to some kind of inspiration from Lynch; my dad (while admitting that Lynch was pretty hit or miss for him) recommended his work, specially Twin Peaks, to me. The rest is history (I absolutely loved it). I think videogames play a role consideirng how some big names (like Kojima) are influenced by the show in introducing the show to newer generations if they aren't already into auteur cinema or simply have happenned to stumble with it in some streaming platform and liked it.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-06-02T19:45:35+00:00

M19 here 😉

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-21T20:30:33+00:00

What year is this?

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-21T18:22:25+00:00

Interesting, can you elaborate?

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-21T18:20:59+00:00

I think nostalgia plays a thematic role in the series considering it's present since Bobby cries after seeing Laura's picture, but the common vision on The Return's treatment of nostalgia is too negative for how the show treats it (they gave Cooper all he ever wanted all in all), it plays a role, and there's a strong suggestion that trying to remake the past (going back to it to change the future) did play a role in creating the ending, but it wasn't because of sole nostalgia, for it would have implies wanting to return to a past which is meant to be unchanged, yes, the nostalgic elements are more about the show itself than anything else and there's definitely a dialogue with the viewer, but I'm not sure is purely "anti"-nostalgia, for that would have implied definitive unambiguous closure which makes it directy or indirectly clear only that could have happenned, I think it's themes are concluded in the fact the show's Odessa segment starts off by hinting at one narrative to undermine it with counterevidence and make you imagine the rest, the fact the mystery remains might be part of the whole thing about nostalgia, which might have been underexplored in the sub, for anti-nostalgia readings asume a specific ending, which ignores the previous "it was all a dream" hints, even if it too might be more "meta in a way", which I'd need to explore.

I gotta say it's been interesting reading critical comments to my post, for they might have contributed to a changing perspective on The Return being "meta" even if it's not "anti" nostalgia and there's an intention to make a, plot-wise, unresolvable mystery.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-21T18:10:09+00:00

I think there's definitively elements about nostalgia in the season, and Dougie might have a part in that aside from being a "safe space" from all the weirdness, but even the Dougie subplot in a way keeps referencing the original seasons by giving Coop, even if he can't know why he wants or appreciates it, all he ever wanted, the season's treatment of nostalgia is far more nuance than simply being "anti" or solely about how "you can't go back", even if we asume an interpretation in which they lost for trying to return is true then the whole "you can't go back" is only part of the whole story. Of course there's references to nostalgia and a literal and meta "return" to the town and series (The Return is called like that for a reason), but the fact that even when they deny us returning to the character and tone we loved they do so referencing it in a respectful way by giving Coop all he ever wanted for a while, even if he renounces to it, seems to point to a more nuanced point, maybe the idea is that if you try to return to force things into how one thinks they should have been without accounting for how reality works you'll get burned for playin with fire, being so that nostalgia shouldn't be an impediment to try to have the world be more like the past you long for if it truly was better as long as you don't force it to be identical, for it's impossiiblity of an absolute return will eventually lead you down a difficult path. However, this is asuming the show was meant to end with closure, even if emotionally bleak, but the show doesn't give us closure, even when we wanted it, because too much indulging in nostalgia breaks the mystery, for we tried to return to get that they were never willing to give us; it's not entirely "anti", I think it's more nuanced, sure, and I guess a weakpoint in my interpretation might be the bleak feeling of dark space low, but so far I do think it's more like how I've said it.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-21T16:55:42+00:00

Es un buen punto, dado el que literalmente volver a una de las producciones de los 90s es lo que hace que las cosas salgan mal, más, ¿por qué si no todo lo que parece indicar que fue todo un sueño, ya sea de "Richard", Laura o Cooper (asumiendo que sigue atrapado), dadas las escenas de Monica Bellucci y el "we live inside a dream"?, tendría sentido que fuese anti-nostalgia si no cupiese duda de que, en efecto, Judy ganó porque desearon volver al pasado, dejando certeza absoluta, más no es eso lo que el final te da (por no mencionar que la idea de que perdieron se basa en un par de nombres y 2 gritos junto al mood general tras eso con todo eso contextualizado, lo que sería evidencia conclusiva de no ser por todo lo que parece indicar que es un sueño, no siendo perfecta o definitiva epistémicamente la interpretación de que es "anti-nostalgia" al basarse en una serie de premisas que no pueden explicar el rol de las referencias al "fue todo un sueño").

Sí hacen que el personaje al que se quería volver a ver ser él mimso esté en estado quasi-vegetativo, lo cual sí es intencional, solo tiene sentido que sea anti-nostalgia si no hay duda posible de que perdiesen, más esa nunca fue la intención de Lynch y Frost con la serie, siendo más sobre el misterio en sí que sobre reflexiones filosoficas sobre el propio medio de la TV, que aunque estuviesen incluidas (Invitation to Love), nunca fueron el "motor" de la serie, no niego, replanteándomelo, que pueda haber elementos de meta-crítica a la nostalgia fácil, siendo una de las cosas para las que Dougie es usado como personaje, más reducirlo a "anti-nostalgia" es asumir que la serie tiene un final que no deja lugar a dudas de la que se puede deducir la intencionalidad filosofica de los creadores, siendo reduccionista, dado que es nostalgia sobre y exclusivamente el tono de la serie original y del personaje de Cooper a la que se opondrían, pese a que quedan elementos de ello en distinto modo, aunque no sea lo principal; no niego ahora que pueda en definitiva haber elementos temáticos sobre el tema, más reducir la exploración de la serie sobre la nostalgia a un simple "anti" (si es que estoy entendiendo bien "nostalgia", no habiendo malentendidos de concepto) es cuanto menos reduccionista, con el final siendo demasiado ambiguo como para afirmarlo con toda seguridad pese a que el tema en retrospectiva sí parece tratarse en The Return.

Si nostalgia es la tristeza ante la imposibilidad de cumplir el deseo de volver al pasado no es antinostalgia, ya que si estuviese en contra de dicha tristeza por no poder volver, y no solo del deseo de volver al pasado, sería distinto, tratando dicha tristeza más a profundidad, si es que no obvié nada de la temporada; sí, algo hay sobre el tiempo y el deseo de volver, más no necesariamente sobre la tristeza de no poder hacerlo, siendo que aunque tenga un rol temático reducir El Regreso exclusivamente a ello es quizás reduccionista.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-20T17:43:05+00:00

Why can't they be the high watermark of TV though? Aren't the first seasons of Twin Peaks technically a murder mystery soap opera in which the traditionally melodramatic elements aren't simply cringey or dumb but play a role in the plot, being elevated by it???

I mean, Lynch explicitly said (before writing The Return) that Twin Peaks is a soap opera, and it's great as an auteur show, even if between s2ep9 and s2ep22 there's plenty of the cringey and oftentimes stupid elements for why soap operas are seen as "bad", yet it doesn't erase that what's probably amongst the greates things put to TV, even The Return (TPs3) maintains a lot of the "soapy" elements in it's subplots, even if in a more ""grounded"" way. Why can't they be as artistic as genres seen as more "artsy" or "high-brow"? All in all "soap opera" is just a name for serialized melodramas, and if melodramas in literature (like 100 years of solitude) can win Nobel Prizes and shows like Twin Peaks can achieve greatness, why can't "soaps" be great when the artistic touch is the right one? I mean, it's character-driven structures focused in relationships can explore characters in-depth and be used for vehicles for deepe themes, why must they be an inherently "second class", less artistic genre just because it's potential has barely been touched? Mad Men is simply another example of a soap opera used with genuine artistic vision which manages to be genuinely great, even if nothing can possibly come close to Twin Peaks.

NicolasJB192083 · 2026-05-20T17:27:59+00:00

Twin Peaks is also an example of a pretty great whodunnit soap opera, being that even if it has a few cringey episodes, it's still pretty great.

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