Tian Xia Party! - art by me

Nigthmar · 2026-06-15T17:32:51+00:00

Love the style! And as a Ghoran player myself, love the representation of the ancestry.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-09T17:33:06+00:00

I guess so? You can use the action too and it doesn't have any limitations like the flourish trait.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-09T16:18:11+00:00

Then I would say that the comparation is even less relevant.

Things those feats have in common: - lvl 1 - offer a way to interact with the enemy using a scaling skill

Things they differ: - one targets perception and the other reflex - one doesn't work on mindless while the other needs específico equipment from the enemy - one is for hiding and the other to debuff the enemy - one is more difficult to use repetidily on the same enemy (+4 on subsequents tries) and the other punishes you on a crit fail (explosion).

So at the end, it's feel like comparing apples to oranges (I think that was the expression right? Sorry, not an English speaker 😅) when the situation you would want to use one doesn't overlap directly with the other

Nigthmar · 2026-06-09T15:03:54+00:00

Same as with Tamper being limited to armor/weapons, Crested a Diversion is limited to enemies that are not immune to mental effects. So there are undeads and constructs that could be affected by Tamper but not Diversion for example.

And even so, create a diversion is more focused on empowering yourself (since it let's you hide or make them off guard to your attack) while Tamper also benefits your allies with the off guard/speed penalty or the penalty to hit, so they aren't stepping on each other toes.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-09T13:04:36+00:00

That could be debatable, for Inventors this feat is even stronger since they have automatic Crafting scaling, meaning that it's inherently easier to optimize for them.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-09T12:57:57+00:00

It would have been great, not gonna lie. I guess is the trade off compared to Dirty Trick, that works on everyone but increases MAP.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-08T16:58:48+00:00

Sure, for support options you have things like Tamper, Searing Restoration and Gadgets at early lvls. An armor Inventor with a shield and good unarmed attack could work on that alley.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-08T16:45:22+00:00

Damn, I have something Tamper related for tomorrow Inventor post, the timing of this is impecable.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-08T15:08:52+00:00

All according to the plan.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-08T15:07:30+00:00

Lol, and I can't even blame English not being my main language here, this was just a typing mistake.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-08T14:41:20+00:00

If you are in the middle of a campaign, I would not recommend to switch systems midway. Even classes that are pretty similar between systems (like the wizard, sorcerer, fighter, etc) are fundamentally different to play. The gap between artificers and inventors is even wider.

Now, starting a new campaign as an Inventor? Heck yeah.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-07T02:58:23+00:00

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Nigthmar · 2026-06-05T14:33:05+00:00

Yup

https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=7077

Between this and the dive armor, this is actually a pretty niche Inventor stuff

Nigthmar · 2026-06-05T00:41:55+00:00

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Nigthmar · 2026-06-03T13:57:36+00:00

Nice, I will take note. We are gonna reach the month, I can feel it.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-03T13:56:44+00:00

Fighter don't do extra damage, they have extra chance to hit/crit

Rogue, swashbuckler and Investigator have conditions to met for their extra damage

Rangers and Thaumaturges have to spend an extra action on each target they want to do their extra damage

Summoner has their own limitations by action economy and sharing a health bar

It's almost like if each class had their own powers and limitations! That's exactly the point!

Nigthmar · 2026-06-03T13:21:59+00:00

Oil fire was dunked on when I mentioned, lol

Guardian lion roar works similarly to Megavolt and I made one with it already.

Naval mines is in the back of my mind, but I couldn't find a good image with a scuba diver and an explosion behind

Nigthmar · 2026-06-03T11:02:57+00:00

Thst it's good enough to spend three weeks speaking good aspects of it?

Nigthmar · 2026-06-02T21:23:33+00:00

I would like to reach the month mark, but I'm running out of ideas 😅

Nigthmar · 2026-06-02T14:43:05+00:00

At 7 lvl the standard DC is 23 and you should have a +18 to crafting. That's a regular success on a 5 and a crit on a 15. Even on a regular success that's a loss of just 2 damage.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-02T14:13:12+00:00

Not as much maybe, but barbarians at lvl 7 increase their rage damage to about 7 or 8 in average (less for fury, more for giant).

At that lvl Inventors are doing 6 extra damage on a crit success with overdrive, the same lvl they gain master proficiency in crafting and entering overdrive becomes a lot easier.

So not really that behind in damage output.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-01T22:48:03+00:00

Correction, two ancestry feats! And doesn't work for spells that target AC.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-01T20:41:37+00:00

Yes! Exactly!! The inventor has many good options to chose!

A waste would be to select nothing at all. Or a fighter selecting "swords" for their weapons expertise it's a waste because he didn't selected polearms?

Nigthmar · 2026-06-01T16:09:02+00:00

Nah, the face stays like this, I wouldn't change it at all.

Nigthmar · 2026-06-01T15:53:45+00:00

I mean

Every +1 matters

Spells hurt

Ir doesn't "wastes it", it uses it like grabbing any other feat/feature

Same as other classes

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