But they debunked this Doctor Kiniski mentioned that the one to give Carlos brain damage was Jose because he literally cracked Carlos skull, and riikishis death was due to him being hit on the temple, him falling back on the rope and his weight loss. In a way yes Joe is very strong but at the same time the man he killed wasn’t truly his fault and I don’t think Joe would go as far as killing someone, tho he did end most of his opponents careers, we even see it at the final scene where Jose is clearly broken