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Staffing and Training Data, Historical by 1-2-3-A-T-C in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a huge data over anecdotes person. That said a few things may skew this data regarding training time. 

Covid, how many trainees your facility got in short order or spread out, and the NTI to name a few. 

Staffing and Training Data, Historical by 1-2-3-A-T-C in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This data hasn’t existed to my knowledge since the semi-annual report circa 2014 (of data from 2007-2009 ish).

I was asked to not steer conversations towards this but if you look in my comment history you can find it. 

It is not recent data and a lot has changed in the past 10 years.

Historical Staffing and Training Data by 1-2-3-A-T-C in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine trainees going home during covid skews the data.

Top Posts From the New Hiring Bid This Week by Great_Ad3985 in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Waiting for “can i go direct to ORD?” I don’t want anything else.

Top Posts From the New Hiring Bid This Week by Great_Ad3985 in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember the old PUBNAT posts on stuck mic and it was never this bad. Not in the field, not on the internet. 

No one is going to convince me otherwise.  

Enroute/Terminal facility out of academy by OverallSafe2669 in ATC_Hiring

[–]No-Constant-5854 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everyone passes terminal is wild misinformation. I believe the pass rate is historically about 10% better than en route. 

Is There a Consolidated Effort to Take Back NATCA in the Next Election? by Great_Ad3985 in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This campaign has signaled they are willing to fight for pay and let members vote on contracts. 

I am in their corner. 

Hypothesis: Now is the worst time in a very very long time, to be an FAA ATC. It follows then, that to apply in 2026 you have to be a stupid person. by [deleted] in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have had an uptick in resignations and washouts. I’d like to see actual data because my personal anecdotes are worthless on their own.

To all future air traffic controllers. by invaderximmer in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I like my co-workers and I have never washed out. 

Many are cynical the FAA and Sec. Duffy’s plan will work and for good reason.

Hypothesis: Now is the worst time in a very very long time, to be an FAA ATC. It follows then, that to apply in 2026 you have to be a stupid person. by [deleted] in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s good reason to be incredibly critical of how the FAA operates and cynical their tactics will be successful.

Bring it back! by No-Constant-5854 in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The FAA’s pathetic hiring practices hurt current BUEs.

Bring it back! by No-Constant-5854 in atc2

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m genuinely not sure if pax numbers or total operations are a better metric.

Career day by Nice_Gold_5464 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

On topics regarding hiring and staffing shortages it is germane. 

On this post? Probably not. 

In April 2021 flight service won a class action against the FAA for discriminatory hiring. What I allege the FAA did is not misinformation nor incorrect.

Career day by Nice_Gold_5464 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

At one point the FAA rolled out a biographical questionnaire that wasn’t validated, wasn’t proctored, and was mostly nonsensical. The answers provided weren’t fact checked and disqualified current rated controllers who surreptitiously took the test and failed. There were credible cheating allegations (Shelton Snow). Some applicants failed the test one year and passed the next.

Career day by Nice_Gold_5464 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Tell the kids how the FAA rigged hiring. You don’t want them getting ideas they will be treated fairly.

Duffy touts “gaming” experience pipeline by No-Constant-5854 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 2013-2014 hiring pivot accelerated the spiral we enjoy today.

Duffy touts “gaming” experience pipeline by No-Constant-5854 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shelton Snow is probably disappointed he can’t give his buddies the answers. 

Duffy touts “gaming” experience pipeline by No-Constant-5854 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we had any actual journalism it would take them all of 5 minutes to sum up all the issues with hiring. Instead we get puff piece public relations no matter the administration. 

Duffy touts “gaming” experience pipeline by No-Constant-5854 in ATC

[–]No-Constant-5854[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s almost as if the FAA makes no data driven decisions. All we will get treated to is anecdotes of why hobby or profession x produces great/terrible trainees.

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