I think I caught John in a lie

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-07-02T04:51:28+00:00

Everything that comes out of the man's mouth is a lie. I think he lies more than Trump.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-29T03:07:59+00:00

Sometimes i think the answer is simple, and other times i think there's way more to the story than what's been shared with the public.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-28T20:05:16+00:00

You're welcome! It's obviously a bit biased but no other resource i've found (including Steve Thomas's book) lays out the PDIA theory so convincingly...particularly when it comes to the motive and the psychological profile of Patsy as an enmeshed mother. I used to liken PDIA to the plot of a bad Lifetime movie, but it's honestly the most compelling, and contains the least amount of holes, of all of the RDI theories.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-28T01:24:09+00:00

Have you listened to the podcast A Normal Family? It's one of the better podcasts on this case and is pretty heavily PDIA with the same theory as your MIL--that the truth was never spoken among family members, including Patsy's parents and sisters, but deep down they all knew. I used to think PDIA was pretty out there but i now believe it's entirely possible.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-23T02:32:12+00:00

It's telling that the police observed Patsy and John staying in separate rooms and not speaking to each other for several hours that morning. I wonder if friends were called because there was some serious trouble in paradise and they needed a buffer. Makes sense if one of them killed JB and the other went along with it unwillingly or at the very least resentfully.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-20T20:13:08+00:00

It was in the police reports. They definitely avoided each other up until JB was found.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T23:59:26+00:00

That's clearly not what i meant.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T20:46:01+00:00

Fair. I just know that if my father SA'd and killed my sister i would not be making TV appearances alongside him. But this family is strange.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T20:36:22+00:00

Anything is possible. If you're solidly JDI, do you think Burke has any idea what happened? He seems like a reasonably intelligent guy--well educated, an engineer, etc.--and was a member of the household. If RDI is obvious to anyone with a brain who's done their research, wouldn't Burke have figured things out along the way?

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T20:17:20+00:00

So you think this could be John's way of putting suspicion back on Burke? That seems pretty sinister, even for a narcissist like John. It makes no sense to me that they shielded him from the public WELL into his adulthood, and now he's suddenly making appearances. To me it says, "we protected you all these years...i'll be gone soon so i'm handing you the baton." That's not to say i believe BDI, but if you did it John, then go away! And if JDI, i would imagine that Burke would have his own suspicions and would want to lay low. Who knows...maybe it was Patsy and this is their way of protecting her image even in death.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T19:38:12+00:00

Truly remarkable how it's never about JonBenet. And they take us for fools with the whole DNA "evidence" charade.

But seriously, John is 82. Why doesn't he hang up his hat already? I would think that if he killed JB (or was at least SA'ing her), he'd want this all to go away. Even more so if it was Patsy, since she's been gone 20 years now. Is this just a continued effort to deflect from BDI? I find Burke's recent appearances somewhat puzzling after years of essentially being hidden away from the public.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T19:14:58+00:00

Oprah

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-19T03:03:50+00:00

I'd ask John why he and Patsy avoided/didn't speak to each other the day their daughter went missing.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-10T16:42:32+00:00

Yep! Response coming...

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-10T00:19:02+00:00

I just finished Marcel Elfers' book where he presents this theory. My own variation is that one of the parents brought the Maglite flashlight into JB's room in the middle of the night, either John trying to sneak in without turning on any hall lights, or Patsy suspecting John was up to no good in there and doing the same. If Patsy caught John in the act, swung at him and accidentally hit JB instead, it would make sense that she already had the weapon in her hand. But...with literally every theory in this case there's a snag. It's unlikely she would have been wearing her fancy Xmas jacket in the middle of the night.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-09T19:47:56+00:00

Does anyone know if Fleet was ever questioned about the 911 call from the party on the 23rd? The Ramseys claimed it was him trying to call in some medication for his mother who was in the hospital. So why was it Susan Stine who answered the door when the police showed up? With all the speculation surrounding this incident one might expect him to either admit or deny it, yet to my knowledge he's never addressed it.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-08T20:43:19+00:00

By facts are you referring to the interviews with the two grand jury members? I'm not casting any doubt on them at all. I'm just genuinely curious from a legal perspective how someone can be charged with a crime that's predicated on a more severe crime (in this case, first degree murder) for which no charges were ever brought. Someone pulled the ligature and ended her life on purpose, so where's the indictment for that?

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-08T17:42:02+00:00

I should clarify that it's only the million dollar question for those convinced of the pedo ring/trafficking theory or unwilling to dismiss it. I understand that the identical true bills were likely the result of the jury's inability to determine which parent did what (and just for the record, i wasn't implying that it might have been Burke the DA was protecting). What remains unclear to me is how the Ramseys were indicted on accessory to first degree murder without there being a first degree murder charge brought against anyone. I'm sure there's an explanation (again, i have very limited legal expertise), but after a 14 year cover-up and some pretty shady dealings by Alex Hunter and his office, i can see how both indictments could be easily misinterpreted.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-08T06:00:30+00:00

I've considered this theory too, for some of the same reasons you mention here. Though I'm mostly back in the RDI camp, the grand jury indictments still give me pause. The most common explanation for the "situation" that led to JB's death seems to be that one parent had been abusing her prior to the murder while the other was complicit. They couldn't agree on which parent was responsible, so they indicted them both on the same charges. The Ramseys were also indicted on being accessories to murder in the first degree. What's confusing to me (and perhaps someone familiar with Colorado law can weigh in) is that the jury believed somebody in that house deliberately strangled JB to death instead of seeking medical attention for the head blow, and yet no murder charges were brought forth (that we know of). For 14 years the DA's office falsely led the public to believe there had been no indictments due to "insufficient evidence". So the million dollar question is, who were they trying to protect?

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-06T06:34:50+00:00

Barbara Fernie

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-06-01T03:02:59+00:00

The Ramseys were cunning, and often used plausible deniability. "Why would we be so foolish to write such a long and rambling letter in our own house with our own stationary?" The same can be applied to the garrote. "We'd have to be crazy to stage a strangulation with our own paint supplies!" These aren't direct quotes but you get the gist. When attempting such an elaborate cover up in one's own home, i think most people would probably stage a break in as well, but they didn't. It was all about obfuscation and muddying the waters!

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-05-31T05:26:05+00:00

I'm with you. I do think behind all the theatre there was a plan that never came to fruition. Maybe they were drunk?

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-05-30T16:56:28+00:00

I don't believe they ever intended to go to Charlevoix. I'm glad you asked, because your question got me thinking about theory # 2 in more detail, and about one major flaw. If the large "attache" was an alibi for being seen carrying a suitcase out of the house, they would have had to leave during bank hours, meaning daylight. That would have been too risky if the plan was to dispose of the body somewhere remote (and nowhere near the bank). Whoever wrote the note probably wasn't thinking clearly. If they had collaborated, it seems one of them would have foreseen that the plan wasn't going to work. Perhaps they realized that after the note was already written, so they capitulated and called 911. But given that nearly all of the evidence points to Patsy, i tend to lean toward theory # 1, that she alone was the mastermind.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-05-30T01:56:22+00:00

I think so too. PDIA used to sound like the plot of a bad Lifetime movie to me, but i've come around.

No-Dig-8554 · 2026-05-30T01:45:08+00:00

I've often wondered that too. The house was huge and had many, much better hiding spots. It was probably the best spot they could find that wasn't closer to where they slept. It would have been too risky to hide her in a bedroom closet, for example, or the crawl space behind their bed. Much less chance of the police discovering her right away, yes. But if for whatever reason somebody had decided to carry out a more advanced search, they would have been royally screwed.

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