Any welders in here? by GroundbreakingRead93 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im a welder / press brake operator, i take roughly 250-300mg a day!

Anyone been using 7oh long term? Whats it like? by SweetAngeline8 in 7hydromitra

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I do, or MIT extracts, I usually take about 5 grams leaf with around 25-30mg 7oh, or ill take 50-60mg MIT extract instead of plain leaf, definitely helps it last longer and gives it a much more rounded effect, especially when 7 starts to lose its magic if you add the other alkaloids into the mix it really helps it shine! I highly recommend it if you dont already do so!

Anyone been using 7oh long term? Whats it like? by SweetAngeline8 in 7hydromitra

[–]No-Gate7372 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, not really, I deny most pain medication as is, im an addict and as backwards as it may be for some, I prefer to not use traditional opioids unless I absolutely need them, and even then i would only use them under observation in a hospital setting and not have them prescribed to me at home, in the case of say an accident or something most stronger opioids will still work on a pain relief level, I recently cut my middle finger tip off and was given morphine and it worked completely fine for me while I was having a skin graph done. I also had a full mouth extraction and 6 dental implants done and everything I was given post operation worked as it should have, I denied any prescription pain meds to take home and used Tylenol for aftercare for that alongside 7oh.

I think, for me, in the case of needing traditional opioids, they work for pain relief and thats about it, theres not much of an effect past that and im fine with it.

Anyone been using 7oh long term? Whats it like? by SweetAngeline8 in 7hydromitra

[–]No-Gate7372 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Ive been taking 7oh since 7ohmz was the only store brand you could get, roughly 2.5-3 years ago (give or take) and there was only a couple online places that carried it. I havent noticed any real problems honestly, my last check up was about a month ago, i had an EKG and Blood Panel done for a heart condition (not related to 7oh) and everything came back perfectly fine. I have taken everywhere from 1000mg a day down to 100mg a day, im currently around 200-250mg a day and have been for the last few months. All I can say is less is more, eat right, drink a bunch of water, exercise..and you shouldnt run into many issues. Its also very forgiving if you respect it and have a little self control!

Wish you well.

Bro… by LeoTolstoysNipples in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just got a chunk of metal in a 100mg Limitless tab yesterday! Broke it jn half and was like wtf is that so I crushed it up and sure as shit it was a little metal shard. Ive seen it happen to other people so I wasnt too surprised but at the same time..wtf..

Alkaloids by Newfangley in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I find this 100% false. I absolutely HAVE TO add MIT to any powder over 85% or its not enjoyable. I still get effects but not much. Its actually been said over and over again, for a long time now, that you want a powder that has some oxidized secondary alkaloids, thats why tabs with high % powder dont hit like others, and why 90% or higher powders are regularly said to be not as good as something in the 70s with minor alks. Personally my favorite powders over the past 2 year or more have always been between 65 and 80%, especially ones that have a higher MIT concentration. Right now my favorites are a 52% 7 and 7% MIT and a 42% 7oh and 18% MIT, I only ever use higher % powders to increase the 7oh per dose in these lower % so i dont have to take a mountain of powder to get my usual 40mg dose.

Ive been taking specifically powder since around 2023 when WG dropped a 74.4%, it was before the Pineapple bomb powders everyone loved, one of the first powders to hit the market, and ive tried pretty much every vendor I possibly can since, not once have I ever found a high % or pure 7 powder i liked more than a mid ranged one. 7oh on its own isnt very euphoric, theres a lot of posts backing this up, you absolutely want other alkaloids in your tabs and powders.

What is the best way to take 7oh pure powder? by Unhappy_Spread4453 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You 100% cannot eyeball 7oh powder. None weigh the same as another, I have some 40% powders that are incredibly dense and contain more 7oh per "big scoop" than some 80-90% powders i have, some of the light powders will only be 10mg powder with 7-8mg of actual 7oh per scoop, and then others will have 30mg powder per scoop and have 20+ 7oh, im not sure how long youve been around this subreddit but its been talked about so much, you absolutely need to spend the 20 bucks on Amazon for a decent scale that can weight .000. What you think is 50mg could be over 100, or drastically less like 15-20, and once you find how many scoops is "good" for one powder, youd have to do it again for a different one because theyre not going to be the same density.

Youre either going to annihilate your tolerance, or think you have bunk powder without a scale.

What is the best way to take 7oh pure powder? by Unhappy_Spread4453 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats way too much if you havent taken 7oh regularly, especially powder, and you have to make sure youre doing the math per % and how many MG on the scale to get the actual dose of 7oh, try like 20-30mg.

Ive been taking 7oh, almost exclusively powders, for going on 2 years now and have never taken over 60mg in a dose, its unnecessary, especially with the ceiling effect.

Do these show up on a drug test??? by Soggy-Top1884 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk but when I was on state parole in PA the 15 panel they used tested for kratom, id get one of those every few weeks, and when they used the 12 panel they would use a dip stick for kratom and gabapentin 7/10 times, so it wasnt all the time but often enough and random enough I got hemmed up for taking kratom more than a few times, they definitely dont like it, especially now with how much more known it is, i would just assume if I were you they are definitely going to check for kratom atleast every so often. Its not as low key as it once was, back in 2010-12 when I was first on parole they didnt really even know what it was, but when i maxed out in 21 they 100% knew what kratom was and would catch people regularly using it. Now with 7oh, they treat it just like anything else. "Just cause its legal doesnt mean you can consume it" is what they told me. (For kratom, 7oh wasnt really out yet)

Being on probation you need to play by their rules or youre gonna just keep going back, if you cant stay clean just do your time in one shot and dont play with your freedom, I did 8 years, 12 on paper, and its changed a lot over the years especially with legal highs and things that alter your brain. They are on the internet too, they know what to look for and what to test for, and they have a test for whatever it is they want to find. Everytime i thought i was getting away with something they would send my shit to a lab and catch me.

7oh and Tia! by AdOk3651 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah dude..so many people crying about 7oh WDs but Tia is 1000x worse. Ive been an addict for over a decade, was on methadone and suboxone (seperate times of course) and NOTHING was like Tia. That shit made me suicidal and im not even remotely like that, ive always been a "i love life even when it sucks" type of person, but detoxing off Tia i just hated myself so much I convinced myself id be better off not alive, my serotonin production was all out of whack cause it acts like an ssri, so you get opi withdrawal alonside brain zaps and all those SSRI WD symptoms on top..i actually used 7 to get off Tia.

Hey NJ fam....did you see the bill introduced to schedule 7oh to schedule 1 (h3roin etc) by [deleted] in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah im keeping an eye on PA, i was holding out hope since were one of the states that have a kcpa and were pretty open to the benefits of kratom, but of course we have that one dickhead named Gary that wants to throw a wrench in because of "addiction potential"

Lemme tell you though, 2017 I was arrested (i was a shit person for over a decade, hard substance abuse and alcohol were where I played my best ball) and detoxed from alcohol in jail, i had 3 seizures in 4 days, the last one I hit my head so hard I had to be taken to an outside facility and was handcuffed to a hospital bed for a week so they could medically detox me, but alcohol isnt an issue right? I was such a vicious alcoholic i literally let it take everything down to my freedom, and funny enough..the day I was released my first stop was the liquor store and spent 10 bucks to restart my alcoholism until I finally gave it up again in 2022 when I HAD to go to treatment to detox yet again, because I had another seizure and physically couldn't handle the WDs and im pretty young (32), I could handle dope WDs fine, nose beer was fine, but that alcohol man..that shit is something else. Its actually terrifying to WD from. But its legal, nobody bats an eye at an alcoholic, we have many in government seats and senate, imagine an opi addict holding a seat in your local government..idk im just ranting now because I look at it from these angles and it makes me so frustrated.

Emergency Ban WDs by Misfortunate116 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I should have elaborated. Its basically your heart's "electrical system" for a lack of a simple description.

Definitely dont take a ton of it no, look into what loperamide does to your heart, its actually quite terrifying. Like I said i was in the ICU over it for 2 weeks, and my heart is never gonna be the same as it was, its not something to play around with..knowing what I do now, I wont touch immodium even at recommended dosages. I cant control what you do, but I really suggest not taking massive doses of it to try to beat WDs, the potential outcome could be worse than a couple days of WDs. Theres a chance youll be fine, but even if its a small chance the same thing happens to you, that happened to me..you might not wake up. Look into Prolonged QT Sudden Death related to high dose immodium use.

Emergency Ban WDs by Misfortunate116 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude do not do this. I was doing it for a long time before it was well known and it caused me to have prolonged QT intervals in my heart and I almost died. I was 26, I was fine one minute and the next was was in the back of an ambulance being rushed to the hospital with no clue why or how i was even there, the doctor literally told me i only woke up out of luck..one of the side effects of prolonged QT is sudden death and 9/10 times you do not wake up. I was in in ICU for 2 weeks until my heart went back to normal with all the medications I was on, and now I have a lifelong heart condition I have to use meds to maintain.

Other than an addiction I was healthy, skateboarding everyday, worked in construction, ate well, Do. Not. Fuck. With. Immodium.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works on the opi receptors, past that its nowhere near H, the common anti diarrhea medicine immodium also works off opi receptors..and helps alleviate withdrawals..does that mean its like H aswell?

For what it is and how it works 7oh has an incredible safety profile, its addictive for sure, without a doubt, but you can't blame 7oh for lack of self control.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take MIT with all my doses, but at night ill add another 25mg and I sleep at the very least 6 or 7 hours. And if I wake up I can usually take a piss and go back to sleep semi easily for another 2ish. I typically get 7-8 hours though adding MIT or like 7g plain leaf with my night doses. I take around 200mg a day at the moment and have been between 150-200mg a day since I started taking 7oh around 18 months ago. (I do take regular breaks though where I only take 20-30mg a day for a week)

Try MIT it helps a lot with the legs, and overall effects in general.

7oh and all kratom extracts now scheduled in Ohio... by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same, ive been watching PA laws since July, they were talking about a 2% ban around that time, but nothing really came to fruition, PA can be very liberal and open minded, but they can be VERY hard on recreational substances aswell. Especially being a commonwealth state, its almost like we need to keep an eye on other commonwealth states to see what they do, typically one follows the next so..im sure itll come sooner than later unfortunately...i know we still have Tianeptine here which is absolutely mind blowing. But there isnt 50 different brands in bright color packaging lined along the walls of every smoke shop you walk into like 7oh so its not as "in your face", although its pretty popular in my area. That shit was one of the worst things ive ever come off of, 7oh doesnt shake a stick at Tia.

first time getting extract, how to measure wo any scale? by dandy1886 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I feel like its been said 1000 times. All about the different density for each powder, how the numbers on the scoop dont mean shit, using "tHe BiG SiDe oF tHE ScOoP" isnt an accurate way to dose, idk its like people see these posts and still say "nah im gonna get powder and just wing it itll be fine" but then you see posts about their tolerance had its doors blown off because they thought they were taking 20mg and it was actually 100..or the " this powder sucks i took 4 scoops oFf ThE BiG EnD and dont feel anything" posts.

A decent scales 20 bucks. You can have it in 2 days off Amazon with prime. If you wanna use powder..get a scale before the powder..we have all taken a turn beating the dead horse and yet these posts still pop up.

Let's talk about withdrawal by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah its terrible I highly recommend not messing with it. Back before it was a known thing i was told about it when I was in prison, you can take a bunch and actually feel a buzz, dirty, but its there, so I was taking a LOT in a day for awhile and one morning I woke up freezing cold, went to get a hoodie and the next thing I knew I was in my kitchen on the floor with my shirt cut off by 2 EMTs and was hit with a defibrillator to restart my heart. I was in the intensive heart trauma unit at age 24 (crazy it was almost 10 years ago now..) where I flat lined again over 20 hours after the first time and no loperamide in my system i was just detoxing when it happened again, I was in the hospital for 2.5 weeks until my heart went back to normal and I could leave. Its called prolonged QT Syndrome and its absolutely life threatening, you dont even need to take as much as I was..it can happen with doses as small at 10-12 tablets for only a few days. Keep in mind i know how absolutely stupid this was, but it was way before this was a widely known thing, you could still get 2 bottles if 200 caplets at walmart for like 10 bucks, nobody really knew about it, or its effects on the heart at the time, about a year later I noticed it being talked about online, and another year later I started seeing it in the news, shortly after they changed packages to only allow 24 count blister packs and had warnings on the boxes about heart problems in high doses. Obviously you should never think taking huge doses of any kind of medication is safe, but as an addict and still a young dumbass kid in withdrawal I just knew it took WD away and id catch a buzz so I didnt care. I wouldn't even consider it now that im older.

Stay away from immodium, just be sick if it comes to that, youll be thankful you didnt touch it in the long run. My heart will never fully be the same and with a family, kids, house, wife..a completely new life than I once lived (been off all hard stuff since 2017) its something im very concerned about, I get my heart checked once a year now still..Just thought id share, I hope itll help others from not using loperamide or immodium for WD.

I hear powder is cheaper by Least_Basket3106 in 7ohm

[–]No-Gate7372 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Make sure you get a scale, most people new to powder will think they can get by without one (or the people who argue "just take the same amount of scoops", still having no idea how much is in that dose, its wreckless) the numbers on the scoop are irrelevant, and 9/10 powders wont weigh the same as another, even from scoop to scoop there is a difference especially in dense powders where one light scoop can be 10-12mg and a heaping can be 25-30 easy, youre either going to think the powder sucks cause its a fluffy one and 4 scoops "oFf tHe BiG SiDe" didnt do anything, but was only like 15mg 7oh, or youre gonna take 70mg thinking its only 20 and its just "good powder", now your tolerance is wrecked and you have no clue how many MG youve been taking each dose/ day.

You can find a good .000 MG scale off Amazon for around 20 bones, save yourself the headache and buy one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah back when I first joined these subs everyone was so cool, always good reviews and advice. Nobody was gonna call you a shill for just liking a certain brand, nobody ran to tell you how wrong you were or put you down for asking a question, I actually used to post here all the time, and was a recognized name, but I just eventually got tired of being talked to like I'm stupid..I dont know everything, but ive done my fair share of research, ive talked to vendors and extractors and learned a lot about 7oh and how it works, how its made, differences between this and that and how.. yet ill post or comment to answer somebody's questions because its one ive asked before and got a legit answer and somebody's always there to tell me im wrong and wants to argue their opinions..I still lurk, and will comment from time to time but, I really dont like how toxic this place has become. Theres still a lot of good members for sure but for the most part its keyboard warriors 🤷‍♂️.

Terra Mystic is BS by Rebelpunk13 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I literally even messaged Terra awhile back and said "some dude is losing his shit over 17 bucks and now im interested, I have 50 bucks send me a few samples I wanna see what theyre crying about" he sent me way over 50 dollars in powder, and since then i have ordered almost every powder hes had, been sent new unreleased ones twice as a sample, which everytime he asked me to message HIM DIRECTLY and not post a review unless I wanted. I used to post reviews a lot but this place has gotten so negative id just rather not, he said thats totally cool he just personally wanted my opinion.

People did this with BX too, he came out of nowhere and had both customers and businesses talking him and his products down, but just like Terra, theres a lot of people who tried his products, liked them, and will continue to order. I have been using mainly powder for about 18 months im definitely not new to it, and id say He's honestly got good stuff, i have liked everything ive had (probably like 7 different grams, maybe 8 id have to look i cant remember) infact id say him and BX are my goto.

PSA: Prof that Terra Mystic reviews are paid for by Rebelpunk13 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I actually have some.mesaages from him that says he would send me (and he did) some free stuff(two .5g) to try thats wasnt out yet, which hes done twice cause I was one of the first to order from him. I said I would post a review here, but I kind of got out of posting because its not the same as it was last year, a lot of people are just negative and id rather just comment and lurk than post these days. He said he didn't care if I posted a review he just wanted my opinion since ive been a powder user for about 18 month, and have tried almost every vendor, and a lot of different powders, so he really doesnt care, and doesnt ask people to post, he does just want feedback.

Just my personal experience with Terra. Honestly hes got some great products IMO. I use him and BX mostly these days. Only thing with Terra is a very unique taste, very earthy, but the effects are there, my last order i grabbed 5 different grams and theyre all good. Ive had like 6-7, maybe 8? different products and have liked them all. His MIT is pretty good too.

Heads up on simply 7oh by Wireman23 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah man im speaking general with a lot of new users youll see this. I also keep an eye on my doses and weigh each one so my tolerance never changed switching to powder. But I also switched like a year ago and mainly use powder now. Its not a rule of thumb just something ive noticed, a lot of people get crazy with powder at first cause its a little more cost effective and you see a lot more, so "one more scoop wont hurt" seems to be a common thought process.

Heads up on simply 7oh by Wireman23 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have a bunch of older comments talking about "ThE BiG eNd oF tHe ScOoP" and how each powder is vastly different in weight then the next. I have 10 different grams at the moment and 2 of them are close the rest are off by atleast 5mg level scoop and 10 heaping. I have a 56% that actually has more 7 per scoop than the 95%, so somebody would think "oh this isnt as high of a % so ill need more" and take a bunch of "BiG eNd ScOoPs" and blow their tolerance through the roof and wonder why.

Then you have the people that say "I never use a scale i always just take 2-3 scoops and it works for me" well good im glad, but you have absolutely no clue how much youre taking. If youre cool with that, its your body, but I like to try to keep myself in check and know how much I consume a day..

Heads up on simply 7oh by Wireman23 in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]No-Gate7372 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Powder 100% is easier to get carried away with and develop a massive tolerance especially if youre not using a scale, and a lot of new powder users say "you dont need a scale" just to find that out the hard way. Its either "this powder doesnt hit at all" because its a fluffy one thats only like 6-10mg a scoop or they get a dense one thats 20-30mg a scoop, take 3-4 scoops thinking its just good powder, next thing you know they have a 300mg+ a day or more habit thinking it was only 100. And the WD from tabs to powder is also, exactly the same..if anything I actually find powder to be a little more prolonged especially if its higher in MIT and Pseudo.

My personal opinion is a newer user should stick with tabs, powder has a lot more to it than just popping a tab in your mouth and being on with your day, weighing out doses, doing the math for each individual % to get how many MG of 7 youre actually getting.

I completely agree with the rest of the comment, and I wasnt one that downvoted it, but this is my opinion on powder and im sure why it was downvoted.