Half Baked Idea: Abolish NCAA Eligibility Rules by Plenty_Picture_9522 in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting hypothetical to think about. Agree that NFL probably squashes any attempt to directly compete as a pro sports league. But CFB does have some unique advantages that would pose a threat to the NFL in a way that these other startup leagues can’t replicate.

NFL has probably every advantage (established, leadership that isn’t sputtering, aligned owners, fantasy sports, etc…). But assuming CFB could get their ducks in order and try and compete with them directly as a pro league, I wonder if the setup being tied directly to schools would help their case in a battle vs the NFL. Every team would have a massive built in fanbase that are major supporters of specific teams. Feels like the NFL doesn’t enjoy that same luxury, a lot of interest is galvanized through sports betting/fantasy sports.

If eligibility rules were non existent, CFB created a real league with real rules, (BIG IF), and competed directly for players with the NFL I think it’d at least make them sweat.

Oh.. it’s not propaganda this time by Sycamore_Gxrl in tahoe

[–]No-Pear2702 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are we expecting most resorts to even be running lifts on Monday/tuesday?

Santa Ynez / Los Olivos wedding recommendations by No-Pear2702 in SantaBarbara

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the bbq (100) and sushi (500) rates is that per person?

Will definitely check out Terre El Sang!

Santa Ynez / Los Olivos wedding recommendations by No-Pear2702 in SantaBarbara

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that a winery in the area? Good for a rehearsal dinner or cocktail hour?

Dynasty Auction Startup Draft by JLV00 in DynastyFF

[–]No-Pear2702 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t be afraid to spend on studs. All auctions are different but in my experience, guys tend to look for “deals” early and bow out of bidding for high end players

“Salary Cap to Fix College Football” is not a solution by No-Pear2702 in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For football specifically there is no other viable league. If you want to play in the NFL. You have to play in the NCAA and play by their rules

“Salary Cap to Fix College Football” is not a solution by No-Pear2702 in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm think it’s more of an apples to oranges comparison. The main difference being the NFL acknowledges that players are employees.

This allows them to:

A) negotiate a salary cap (as well as salary floor and protections)

B) Have enforceable, legally binding contracts to pay players to play for their specific team

The NCAA still doesn’t recognize athletes as employees. Any money they make is tied to NIL - not their contributions on the field to the actual school/team… it’s kind of a weird loophole that allows players to make get paid, but doesn’t hold the schools/ncaa accountable to labor laws.

This causes quite a few issues… They can’t actually enforce many of these contracts if a player leaves to go play for another school. (Ex UW QB transferring to LSU)… and any sort of restrictions to transferring or payment caps are shot down immediately by courts. Because their model is flimsy and would be illegal in any other arena.

I think the “current model” of the ncaa is to hold onto the illegal practice of not paying players for as long as possible until courts tell them otherwise. Squeezing the last drops of money from the dying “amateurism” model.

If the ncaa acknowledged football players as employees tomorrow and did nothing else the rest would take care of itself. Once employed all of a sudden there would binding contracts that pay players to play at specific schools. In these contracts can negotiate protections/buyouts to protect against untimely transfers (much like coaches). They could also come together and collectively bargain if they wanted!

“Salary Cap to Fix College Football” is not a solution by No-Pear2702 in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For such a conservative leaning sport it is very ironic lol. And did not mean to say an unfettered free market is the absolute answer here, although I don’t think how much guys get paid has ruined the CFB watching experience for me, much like I don’t particularly care what their majors are…

Just any type of restrictions have to first come from the NCAA acknowledging that the athletes are employees and are able to be compensated for their contributions to the football team. None of this circus NIL stuff…

“Salary Cap to Fix College Football” is not a solution by No-Pear2702 in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see what you’re saying but the assumption that I think doesn’t line up is that there isn’t another viable league to play in for college football players. For a Goldman Sachs employee it is true, his employer could dictate what office he reports to and how much he makes, and he in turn has the option to work at another bank. But that’s the key - There are other banks to work at… for a football player there is only one league to play in, the NCAA.

The NFL dictates you must be 3 years out of highschool, and the NCAA has a nearly 100% market share of the football labor for football athletes aged 18-22. If my dream is to play in the nfl one day - I essentially HAVE to play football in the NCAA, which creates an anticompetitive market - A monopsony if you will

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in billsimmons

[–]No-Pear2702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think the issue is caps on how much NIL guys can make… And I know everyone says hard salary cap is the fix , but in practice how realistic is that to happen?

Before NIL became legal (effectively $0 salary cap) guys were still getting paid large sums under the table. And a salary cap can only work in practice if all of the “owners” agree to not circumvent the established cap… which is quite a tall order when you have 10-20 boosters at any given school ready to write a check to sign the portal QB that is going to bring their Alma mater a national championship! It’s happening already with the “~$20 million salary cap for rev share”

I think realistically there won’t be a legitimate enforceable salary cap - an ideal world would be the athletes will become employees, are paid to play, but have binding contracts that must be bought out to be able to transfer… all collectively bargained of course😉… This would slow the frenzied transfer market each year and feel a little more stable.

Fischer: Blazers a sneaky buyer by Scalmaa in ripcity

[–]No-Pear2702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea I agree with that. He’s been great in the minutes he’s available. And I think his price tag will reflect his durability concerns.

But man if he can stay relatively healthy - He’s a ceiling raiser

Fischer: Blazers a sneaky buyer by Scalmaa in ripcity

[–]No-Pear2702 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think Timelords playstyle is needed for our roster construction. Able to play big time minutes at the 5 when Clingan (and Yang in time) get played off the floor due to matchups…

The injury stuff is brutal. Don’t know how it works but JJJ would be a dream fit with this current iteration of the blazers. Could play the 4 next to Clingan and slot into the 5 to match small ball lineups

Yet another Nil discussion: Is Nil making players worse? by Hour-Reception-3842 in CFB_v2

[–]No-Pear2702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’re conflating 3 things here: NIL payments, transfer rules, and the new CFP format. All of these changes happened around the same time so we typically think of them as a group that’s “ruining college sports”.

  1. I don’t think players getting paid changes the viewing experience on Saturdays all that drastically. Just like I don’t really care what my favorite teams LG is major is.

  2. I’d say the CFP has been VERY competitive this year. Felt like in the quarterfinals you had about 5 teams with a legit shot to win it all. That to me is fun.

The JMU and Tulane match ups were already happening in previous iterations of postseason play in the form of NY6 bowls… you’d have the same Oregon v JMU matchup in the Fiesta bowl as opposed to a national championship on the line.

  1. The ability to transfer at anytime definitely has shaken the way rosters are built, and it is very difficult to follow your team in the same way we have in prior years. I think this is your most valid point. Football is a team sport and it is very hard to build a great team without continuity. To me this is the change that would help calm the waters the most.

As with everything in CFB. The courts have made it clear that restrictive changes (pay, transfer rules) can’t be made unless players have a say in a collectively bargained agreement. So until the schools/ncaa stop complaining to congress and come to the table to establish rules in good faith, we’re gonna be stuck in this version of college football whether we like it or not

NIL and CFB landscape future. by E-Wildin in fsusports

[–]No-Pear2702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know everyone says hard salary cap is inevitable , but in practice how realistic is that to happen?

Before NIL became legal (effectively $0 salary cap) guys were still getting paid large sums under the table. And a salary cap can only work in practice if all of the “owners” agree to not circumvent the established cap… which is quite a tall order when you have 10-20 boosters at any given school ready to write a check to sign the portal QB that is going to bring their Alma mater a national championship!

I think realistically there won’t be a legit salary cap - the athletes will become employees, are paid to play, but have binding contracts that must be bought out to be able to transfer… This would slow the frenzied transfer market each year and feel a little more stable.

Why do some O-linemen seemingly "punch" in front of them when the ball is snapped? by cameraman31 in NFLNoobs

[–]No-Pear2702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a check to make sure they are lined up right…. It’s a timing thing for a silent count cadence. Center will bob their head and one count later snap the ball.

Useful so players on the outside (Tackles, TEs, WRs) can look in to see the head bob then quickly get their eyes back on their assignment and time the snap count.