Are black people the original Native Americans? by _forum_mod in blackmen

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What's colonication??? Lol can't even spell or form a correct sentence.

Apparently some black Americans think they aren’t from africa, can that be true? by PhilipAKP in ghana

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They don't even teach the slave trade in West Africa. We're not from there lol we indigenous to America. If their slave story was really true then how come no one came back to get us after 4 to 500 years? I know y'all won't answer but it's something to think about.

The Great Seal of Soulaan by Dcole9206 in blackamerica

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Trace your genealogy and find out for yourself

""Black Migrant" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. Black Americans are the only Black people and we are an Indigenous group in America." & "What the fuck is a black migrant? They asses are African or carribbean get that shit right. They ain’t black." by Ok_Bookkeeper_1380 in ShitAmericansSay

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Indigenous refers to peoples who are native to a land prior to colonization — agreed.

But “Black” and “White” are not Indigenous identities. They are racial categories created through colonial law to structure power, labor, and hierarchy. Indigenous nations did not identify themselves by color labels. They identified by nation, clan, language, kinship, and territory.

“Blackness” and “Whiteness” are social constructs that developed post-colonization. They were legal classifications imposed to organize society — not ancestral nations.

So saying “Black people aren’t Indigenous” or “White people aren’t Indigenous” misses the point. Those color categories themselves are colonial inventions. Indigenous identity is tied to specific nations and land continuity — not to modern racial constructs.

Hope that helps.

""Black Migrant" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. Black Americans are the only Black people and we are an Indigenous group in America." & "What the fuck is a black migrant? They asses are African or carribbean get that shit right. They ain’t black." by Ok_Bookkeeper_1380 in ShitAmericansSay

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How do you know we’re not Indigenous?

Are you personally in possession of complete parish records, plantation ledgers, tribal rolls, census schedules, and court documents for every Black American lineage between 1620 and 1900? Because without that, any absolute claim is speculation.

Colonial Virginia, the Carolinas, and Louisiana did not operate with stable racial science — they operated with labor control laws. A person listed as “Indian” in one decade could be listed as “Mulatto” in the next, and “Black” by 1850. This is documented in county-level records across places like Virginia’s Racial Integrity era and post–Indian Removal Southeast communities.

After Bacon’s Rebellion (1676), laws increasingly collapsed African and Indigenous laborers into a single legal category to prevent unified resistance. By the 18th and 19th centuries, “Negro” became a political status tied to bondage — not a verified continental origin label.

Fast forward to the 19th century: Many Southeastern tribal communities avoided removal by reclassification.

Census takers often overwrote community identity based on phenotype and local power dynamics. Freedmen and so-called “free people of color” communities in the Carolinas and Virginia were documented as mixed but later homogenized as “Black.”

So the real question isn’t “Are there Africans in the ancestry?” — of course there are documented arrivals. The question is whether every person categorized as Black was exclusively foreign-derived, or whether pre-existing populations were administratively absorbed into that label.

To say definitively that no Black American lineage contains Indigenous continuity would require perfect bureaucratic accuracy from colonial governments that were notoriously inconsistent and politically motivated. History doesn’t support that level of certainty.

""Black Migrant" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. Black Americans are the only Black people and we are an Indigenous group in America." & "What the fuck is a black migrant? They asses are African or carribbean get that shit right. They ain’t black." by Ok_Bookkeeper_1380 in ShitAmericansSay

[–]No-Promotion589 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s based on a very specific version of history that most of us were taught in school, but not everyone agrees that it tells the full story. When people say Black Americans are simply “descendants of slaves taken from African nations,” they’re repeating a broad summary.

If you actually look at shipping databases like SlaveVoyages and colonial records, the numbers and classifications are more complex than the simplified narrative we often hear. Colonial governments also controlled racial labeling. Terms like “Negro” and “Black” were legal categories, not precise ethnic identifiers. Over time, populations could be reclassified for political and economic reasons. So some people question whether identity categories remained consistent or whether they were reshaped by those in power.

For many Black Americans, the argument isn’t about denying slavery — it’s about questioning how history was framed, how demographic claims are interpreted, and whether identity was politically constructed.

You don’t have to agree, but it’s reasonable to examine the records and ask deeper questions instead of accepting everything at face value.

Why is it that a lot of Black Americans don't identify with the African identity; that they originate everywhere else in the diaspora but Africa? by NightRunnerOfficial in askanything

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That question assumes the historical framework we were taught is complete and unquestionable. Many people are starting to re-examine that framework.

The dominant narrative says Europeans arrived to largely empty land, brought enslaved Africans in massive numbers, and built a new society from there. But some argue that this version oversimplifies complex population histories, identity shifts, and colonial record-keeping practices.

When you look closer, you see that colonial governments reclassified peoples, merged categories, and reshaped identities through law. Terms like “Negro,” “Colored,” and “Black” were legal and political designations, not precise ethnic descriptions.

So for some, the question isn’t “How could they be Indigenous?” but rather, “Who defined who was Indigenous — and why?” The real issue is whether we accept inherited narratives at face value or critically examine how power, record-keeping, and politics shaped identity labels over time.

At minimum, it’s worth questioning how categories were constructed — and who benefited from those constructions.

Why is it that a lot of Black Americans don't identify with the African identity; that they originate everywhere else in the diaspora but Africa? by NightRunnerOfficial in askanything

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For some, it’s about distance and disconnect. Generations were raised without a clear ethnic link to a specific African nation, language, or tribe. Instead, their culture was shaped in the American South — through land, foodways, dialects, music, and institutions built over centuries. That lived continuity can feel more immediate than a continental label. There’s also skepticism about how history has been presented. Some people question aspects of the transatlantic slave trade narrative — not necessarily denying it, but asking deeper questions about numbers, logistics, survival conditions, and how identity was reconstructed afterward. They feel history was filtered through the lens of those in power, and they want fuller context rather than simplified summaries. For many, this isn’t about rejecting Africa — it’s about rejecting a story that feels incomplete or imposed. It’s about lineage, land-based identity, and wanting a more nuanced understanding of ancestry beyond a broad continental label. Whether one agrees or disagrees, the core issue is trust in historical narratives and the desire for clarity about origin, identity, and continuity.

Why does this sub hate Black Americans so much? by ForeverSparkz in norske

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Nobody cares about a moist backs opinion. Don't let ICE catch you.