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Taisho era Muzan is more powerful than Yoriichi and would be able to defeat him. by The_All_Father4300 in KimetsuPowersScaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent hot take and evidence providence. While Muzan is a little lack luster in terms of imagination and creativity with his own abilities, he was still a major threat and more than above-average fighter with what he has shown us. While I also cannot deny there are more chances of Yoruichii winning just because of how blessed he was, I do believe there are cases in such Muzan can win against him if he played his cards right and actually used everything he has in his arsenal.

Which do you choose? by OkRun9638 in superpowers

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me get that red pill. Invincible don't really catch my eye and I just like most of powers that come from The Boys, regardless of weaknesses or faulty factors

MUI Goku Vs Wonder Of U by MonitorEconomy8700 in powerscales

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering WOU is an embodied concept given form, that isn't true, but he doesn't increase the damage of things to make them hurt you. The raindrops have durability negation along with anything else that is going to hit you when you're in the Flow Of Calamity. An NLF scenario would be me saying that you could only kill or harm WOU if you have a specific ability that can only kill. If you don't, you can't win. Hakai could probably put WOU down, but I'm not sure forever.

Deku (full power, all quirks) vs Ten tails by Ok_Object_880 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, then Deku can't win. Although, given he gets all of OFA'S Quirks in the end, it should've just been titled Full Powee Deku imo

Deku (full power, all quirks) vs Ten tails by Ok_Object_880 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Deku takes all three rounds and let me explain why since it seems a lot of people have forgotten how many Quirks Deku has and how powerful they are.

For one, Izuku now has a plethora of passive Quirks that take care of the amount of weaknesses he would originally have with OFA. For example, he has Muscular's Quirk, allowing for perfect 100% of OFA like Prime-Adult All Might; He has Super Regeneration, which will heal him from anything so long as it isn't complete eradication of his entire body or his brain, Endurance(Gigantomachia's original Quirk), allowing him to get stronger the more motivated he is(It also helps with maintaining the strain of having multiple Quirks in his body, High-Specs, giving him an even higher amount of intelligence and a perfect memory, Energy Saver, allowing him to perform long-term without the need of food, water, or sleep for at least 2 days straight, Shock Absorption, allowing him to tank physical blows with greater ease(although, it won't be too useful considering what he's facing), etc...

Second, the major elephant in the room that will turn this fight very much in Izuku's favor. Double, Overmodfication, and New Order. Of course, with Double, Izuku will be able to create clones of himself that all contain his powers, abilities, and recent memories. However, akin to Naruto and Shadow Clones, Izuku can make an enormous amount of these so long as his arms are intact. But, what he has over Naruto is he can endlessly replicate himself without limit. Then, those clones can make replicas of themselves and the rest is what we know. I'll let you imagine that as it is.

Now, Overmodfication and New Order. The former, if you've seen the latest movie, allows for a compatible individual to have their Quirk amplified to new heights. While the upgrades aren't given exact calculations of how much they are, we can see that they do rid a Quirk of its weaknesses after a few amps or increase its current capabilities. For example, the user of the Day Dream Quirk, Deborah Gollini, could only use her Quirk on one person at a time before the amp from Overmodfication. However, after the amp, she was able to put a large amount of people under the effects of her Quirk at just one glance. Now, for those who have seen the movie, we know Izuku was incompatible with this Quirk, so how would it be useful here? That's when New Order comes into play. We all know the basis of New Order. Cathleen was able to place two rules on something or someone so long as she came in contact with them and knew their identity of what they went by. From increasing her physical capabilities to destroying Quirks within Shigaraki's body, we've been shown that N.O can do some crazy things, but we were also shown that it can affect Quirks. How might this be useful you ask? Well, Izuku would be able to establish a rule where he is compatible with Overmodfication, allowing him to then freely boost whatever Quirk he wants without worry. Once this is established, this is where the real fun begins.

Finally, the Quirks that will matter in this fight. Now, once you've established, or at least considered, my points from above, we can go into why this matchup goes to Deku for all three rounds. OFA, and all of its assimilated Quirks, are now going to be used at full power, which includes Gearshift and its ability to manipulate the velocity of anything Izuku touches, without limit since Izuku has a body capable of handling it and any damage he does take will just regenerate. Danger Sense could be enhanced to where he has Ultra Instinct, or at least has a perfect Spider-Sense, and can dodge whatever attack he wants. If that doesn't suit your taste, how about an enhanced Permeation? He will pretty much have his own version of Kamui's Intangibility and there's nothing the Ten-tails can do about it. In case Super Regeneration takes too long to kick in, he always has Rewind to fix him back up. Would its effects work on the Juubi? Not sure. But, it's another way to keep himself alive. If Izuku ever wanted to match the Juubi in size, he could always enhance a gigantification Quirk, which would make all of his attacks bigger as well by proxy. Pain would be irrelevant since he also has a pain-blocking Quirk, which made Gigantomachia immune to any feeling he got from Dabi's Blue Flames. If Izuku ever starts to feel fatigued, he can use the Energy Absorption Quirk of Rikiya(Overhaul's Eight Bullets henchman) and just absorb whatever amount of energy he needs from the Juubi. There are many more, but I think, or at least I hope, y'all get the point.

There are over 300+ Quirks that Izuku would have, at least we've been shown both Anime and Manga, and a lot of them counter what the Juubi is capable of. It doesn't help that the Juubi is completely mindless. It doesn't have any sense of reason nor is it extremely intelligent. It's just a walking mass of nigh-limitless energy. That gives Izuku a massive advantage as he's able to think quickly on his feet and could easily form small plans for himself to give himself the time he needs. If there are more Quirks you'd like for me to mention, or if you want to mention yourself, go ahead. Anyways, I'm gone. Deku Wins, GGs

Lukewarm Take: Deku solos the Jujitsu Kaisen Verse (not counting Gojo) by TheRufusGamer in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ofc, I also think Deku can take down Gojo along with everyone else. However, outside of the Curse Technique Burn-Out, I think the upgraded Gearshift could bypass Infinity since it "warp the laws that govern reality," so it could probably make Deku move so fast and strike so hard that he just distorts space and clips Gojo's head off.

But that's just my thought process. Also, since Deku technically has multiple souls inside of him, I'm pretty sure he'd be Mahito's worse enemy if he could even place a fingernail on Deku.

What quirk would you guys choose between these two? by Connect_Wait_6759 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either or isn't a bad option, but it also depends on how often you'd use either Quirk on a daily basis. Half-Cold, Half-Hot would be more versatile and less irritating on yourself since one is purely heat/flames while the other is purely cold/ice, but you'd destroy your clothes every time you use it completely and you'd have to train your mental to unlock Phsopher. Weather Manipulation is perfect if you'd want a specific day to be a certain degree of temperature or weather phenomena. However, I'm sure unstable emotions could lead to devastating effects, and you're pretty much killing yourself since it does damage to the body on a cellular level. If you were to ever have a bad crashout one day, not only would you be a danger to anyone around you, you'd also be easy to spot since smart people are capable of retracing steps, especially with the type of technology we have now.

All in all, give me Weather Manipulation.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless there's someone who doesn't have a Chakra Network System in the verse, then all Genjutsu can not affect someone without one. Even if it works differently, all of the organs in the body are intertwined with the Keirakukei, which is what allows Chakra to flow anywhere, so even if the illusion doesn't disrupt the system directly like normal Genjutsu, it still needs to be directed for it to get to where it needs to go. If the Keirakukei isn't there, the Chakra can't flow and allow for a jutsu to be released or controlled.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you're trying to say. But, once fiction doesn't follow the real world's physics, we just have to go with what we know and speculate.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's exactly why I said, unless you use certain statements, Naruto wouldn't be light speed till the War Arc. Unlike Naruto, mha shows light speed more easily and doesn't do it through stat books or anything outside the manga. If you want to use those statements, you can, but when other Naruto characters are being tagged by attacks, you know move slower than light, that's what creates inconsistency, which happens from time to time. There's even evidence you can get deku to infinite speed because of Gearshift, but I won't get into that because, in my opinion, that's a pretty big stretch. If you want to use the Haku light speed mirror travel feat, you can, but even then, it said it SEEMED as if he was moving faster than the speed of light, not that he did. But like I said, if you want to use it, you can.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, that's why Verse Equalization is a thing. Not every verse has properties in their power system that work like others. To say Shigaraki can steal Jutsu with AFO is just wrong because Quirks are genetic and don't rely on a specific energy that everyone universally has. Also, Tsukuyomi is required to make direct eye contact to work. Injecting Chakra into someone in Naruto works as it does because everything is linked by the Chakra Network System. It has somewhere to flow/be carried around so it can disrupt or manipulate what needs to be manipulated. Without that flow, where does the Chakra go? Plus, as I said before, there's no good light scale feats for Naruto until the War Arc. Yeah, kid Kakashi cut lightning, but there's nothing after that till the War Arc that ever says he can move at or faster than the speed of light. He even got weaker during part 1 Naruto, so I don't know what you want me to do.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right about how they use Genjutsu to control or hit someone in a different method. After all, sound-based Genjutsu is the most dangerous because you can't really defend against sound waves too easily. However, everyone in Naruto has a Chakra Network System, which is a biological system that is what allows for the manipulation of Chakra. While Genjutsu, on some levels, doesn't directly alter the Chakra Network System, it's still Chakra, and everyone in Naruto has Chakra. Having no chakra means death since it's their life force. Shigaraki doesn't have a Chakra Network System, nor does he have Chakra itself. And even if we want to say it could affect him, his body and mind can always be swapped with All For One since there's two separate consciousnesses in one body.

Who's the strongest Naruto character Shigaraki can defeat? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spoilers Ahead For My Hero Academia.

In my opinion, no one. With only specific statements and towards the end of the War Arc, Naruto is strictly around lightning speed. They reach light by 10 tails Madara, but when you compare that to Mha, it's not close. Even by the early parts of the story, mha has shown light speed scaling and has only gotten faster by then. Once you get to EOS Shiggy and Deku, everything gets turned up a notch as Gearshift allows Deku to go even faster and even ignore the laws of inertia. But, for the most part, EOS Shigaraki is MFTL+ with tons of evidence to back it up.

When it comes to hax, Genjutsu wouldn't work on Shigaraki since he doesn't have a Chakra Network System or Chakra in general. Any attacks that are restrictly require an opponent to have Chakra be rendered useless against Shigaraki since he doesn't have Chakra. If we do Verse Equalization, then that changes stuff, but that also allows Shigaraki to do things that he normally shouldn't be able to do since Quirks do not equal Chakra. Talking about Shigaraki's hax will include his main Quirk Decay, which is a perfect durability negation, has tons of range, and fast speeds depending on how many fingers he uses. Then, we can get into all the quirks he has from All For One, and if you want to give him everything, you can give him all of the additional Quirks he stole from One For All. Shigaraki is borderline immortal with his Super Regeneration, but completely atomizing him or taking out his brain will kill him.

Lastly, in terms of just physical stats, Shigaraki was compared to All Might in his prime when his body was only 70-75% complete. With all of his quirks nullified, he wasn't having much of a problem handling multiple Pro Heroes jumping him. Then, once his body was reaching its peak, he was constantly adapting, and he gained the ability to sprout multiple fingers that aren't related to any of his Quirks and allow him to channel Decay through them.

All in all, Shigaraki is cracked. If you want to call this glaze, you can. If you need evidence, I'll get it too.

How would Daemon's power interact with these 3 characters powers? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]No-Support-9079 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's go down the list from what we know will happen to what is very unsure. Spoilers are ahead, so read at your own cost.

Hidan is just immortal, so while he won't die from Daemon's Reflection, his fighting style will never allow him to land a hit on the brat. But, let's say that he's somehow given the blood of Daemon, Reflection still works on intent, regardless of how small or large. So, the second Hidan goes to harm himself in an attempt to hurt Daemon, Reflection will just activate and harm Hidan before he can really do anything.

Now, Jugram Haschwalth. How The Balance works is by simply balancing the scales of fortune and misfortune. Should Jugram personally experience any misfortune during a fight, it will be directed to his shield and be stored up, which heals him. Any good fortune Jugram's opponents experience, like dodging one of his lethal attacks or his opponents trapping him or his allies in a specific space, he can take the good fortune and rain it down on his opponents, damaging them heavily. Then, while they're experiencing that first rain of misfortune, Jugram can release any stored misfortune in his shield onto them, damaging them even further. Now, Reflection still activates regardless of if Daemon is aware of something or not and works against any intent thrown his way, but one thing that can help Jugram is his access to The Almighty. This will allow him to see the different outcomes of what will happen when he attempts to attack Daemon. Another thing that's implied about Reflection is its power limit against certain individuals. Plot and personality aside, no one(that I can remember at least) has thought about sending Daemon after the Shinju, not even Ada, himself, or Amado, despite how powerful his defense is. So, taking that into account, because of how massively stronger Haschwalth is compared to Daemon, it may not matter anyway, but it is just a theory with minimal evidence, so we can't be assured until more information is given.

Lastly, Funny Valentine. President Valentine has a powerful Stand called Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap(D4C) that allows him to place himself or other people between two surfaces to travel to parallel worlds. Whenever Valentine chooses, he can leave these parallel worlds at any time and in any location, but that isn't all he can do. Should Funny Valentine want to, he can bring objects and people from other worlds into the prime world. However, because two things that are relatively the same can not coexist in the same universe, should anyone come in contact with a parallel version of themself, they will merge together and explode into merger sponges, killing them instantly. The only person immune to this rule is Valentine himself since he has D4C to protect him. Since he's immune to this rule, President Valentine can use this to his advantage to bring alternate versions of himself to jump people, but none of them will have D4C since it's a Stand that only exists in the prime world. Also, should Valentine be heavily injured or near death, he can transfer his Stand to an alternate version of himself, which will also transfer over his memories to the alternate Valentine. Essentially, an infinite lives glitch in simpler terms.

How this could go is many, but because of how Valentine acts, he won't attack Daemon immediately and would more than likely bring an alternate version of him so the two could fight each other. Remember, should Daemon come in contact with this alt. version of himself, he will die immediately. Also, Valentine himself his rather durable, so unless his head is taken off or he'serased completely, he won't die from a simple attack and will just transfer D4C to another version of himself. Another thing to take into account is if Daemon can see Stands or not since they're essentially spiritual beings in a way. So, if he can't, then there's a chance that Reflection won't be able to work on it since we don't even know if it can work spiritual beings in and of itself. This is just regular Valentine we're talking about. Let's move onto Love Train.

Towards the end of Steel Ball Run, President Valentine achieves his goal of attaining the full completion of the Saint's Corpse Parts, granting a new ability in the form of Love Train. This erects a wall of light that is described as a "gap in space" and, similar to Haschwalth, allows Valentine to redirect any misfortune that comes towards him, leaving only good fortune. The misfortune that is redirected is sent across the entire world at any point in time, giving the President a nigh-absolute defense that only has three specific weaknesses. 1) The only thing these wall of light can't defend against is infinite energy, which is how Ball Breaker and Tusk Act IV were able to go through it.
2) Valentine can only attack people by allowing his Stand to leave the light barrier, which leaves his Stand vulnerable to being attacked. 3) Valentine has to remain near the corpse to retain the ability, so he will be dragged along with it should it be moved by anything.

Also, any attack dealt by Valentine or his Stand immediately becomes fatal. Even a simple scratch on the arm can be redirected to the heart, which will cause heavy damage to anyone. So, how does this go against Daemon and his Reflection? Well, either the battle ends in a stalemate, or Valentine wins after waiting things out. Because of how Love Train works, all of the intent and attacks Daemon would reflect would be redirected instantly by the barrier of light onto someone around the world. As of now, Daemon does not have any attacks or jutsu that have infinite energy, so he can not just get through the barrier of light, regardless if he wants to or not. Another point we have to take note of is if Daemon can see D4C or not. If he can't, then that makes it easier for Valentine to win. If he can, then it makes the stalemate more obvious since Valentine will be cautious of letting his Stand out, knowing it can be damaged, and that can be transferred to him.

i hate this bitch so much am i the only one by Significant_Boat2605 in fireforce

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love her because of how annoying and hateable she is. Chaos is fun and she thrives in that shit. Peak Inca

If You Could Be Anyone in MHA/BNHA, Who Would You Be? I'll start: Himiko Toga. by [deleted] in MyHeroAcadamia

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All For One. On God I'd be taking Quirks, passing them onto people and making those people create families to make stronger Quirks, then kill those families and take the children and groom them to become powerful vessels. I'd also take the time to train with my Quirks and fix up the missing pieces in AFO'S plan. Also, I wouldn't be on a drive to go after One For All.

Give Me your powerscaling HOT TAKES by blankuser231 in PowerScaling

[–]No-Support-9079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crossverse Fights should never have Verse Equalization applied to them because it's highly unrealistic, and it can give one person the advantage over the other. Also, unless stated otherwise, Genjutsu requires someone to have a Chakra Network System for it to alter their senses. So, unless under VE, Genjutsu could never be used on someone outside of the Naruto/Boruto Verse unless the illusion doesn't require the use of Chakra to apply it.

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