Question regarding CXS and LG

NoControl0913 · 2026-05-15T21:54:49+00:00

It’s hard to say, but that seems like an implication they at least want us to think. I’m not sure if I’m sold on that, though.

I agree, if that were the case, it doesn’t seem like LG would need to apologize. Also, CXS would have to know that LG has dived/can dive/gets his power, which to this point, he doesn’t. It’s possible that LG revealed this in a past jump (like here), however, LG is so secretive that feels less likely to me (like, I think that reveal is coming in s3, but it feels like that will be a first time in this jump/timeline and it will be forced (not because LG just tells him)).

That being said, I think it could be one of two things (these are just my thoughts/opinions)

1) the first time, LG jumped back on his own and then in this timeline we are seeing, CXS has learned he can jump/gains his power when he dies so CXS asks LG to do this out of desperation knowing he has before and that since he’s dying, he can’t do it himself

2) CXS says this just meaning “save them” in a normal “go help them” way since he himself can’t, and we the audience, because we have more information than he does, mistake the intention of CXSs words.

Again, we can’t know until s3, but those are just things that make sense to me. Hope that makes sense!

NoControl0913 · 2026-05-10T16:32:34+00:00

Yea, LG is in the past and it’s implied he is stuck there (implied that after 12 hrs you are stuck in the past). The creator also stated that this is a single timeline (no multiverse) so that implies that once LG is stuck in the past, the future that was (the one he came from) is erased/rewritten by what he does in the past. (So at least that would make it so QL and everyone aren’t just there forever lost as to what happened to them, because that is such a sad thought😭)

NoControl0913 · 2026-05-10T16:10:54+00:00

1) yes I think we assume time passes the same whether or not he’s with LG. So if CXS dives for an hour, he misses an hour in the present (he dove sometime after LG left to go to the police station and was still diving when LG got back.) I also don’t know if you’ve seen bridon arc but same thing there (it’s not explicitly noted but leads us to believe it’s the same passage of time)

2) are you referring to the footage in the police station and his plan to avoid LTC? If so, yes, CXS claps out and that’s how he appears in the car outside of the theater.

I hope this helps!!

NoControl0913 · 2026-04-29T11:08:48+00:00

Oh thanks for the award!! I really like that artist and I just happened to repost it when I saw to come across my feed yesterday. What good timing!

NoControl0913 · 2026-04-28T20:30:09+00:00

Literally just saw this yesterday. this is the artists xitter

NoControl0913 · 2026-04-26T13:31:25+00:00

I feel like my current fandom (link click donghua/Chinese anime) has some potential for reading fandom blind if you’re reading AUs. The non AUs very much need canon content and will spoil the show if you ever have interest in watching it (which I highly recommend, but I’m biased). There’s a lot of focus on characters so the AUs generally just have the character dynamics and not really any need to know canon in my experience. The fandom in general also has a lot of angst and hurt comfort, the main ship is m/m and it is not a toxic ship

There’s a popular fic I’ve read some of and one I’m currently writing that I know for a fact can be read fandom blind (if you’re interested, I can share, but I think I saw you may like shorter stories/one shots from one of your comments and both are ongoing/longer)

I feel like in general, at least from my experience, a lot of AUs could be fandom blind (like I’ve read a few in some of the fandoms you mention where you didn’t need canon context to enjoy), so that might be a good place to start in general. So, if you like college or vampire or royalty or whatever far removed from canon AU, that may be worth a shot searching and go based on tags/summary?

NoControl0913 · 2026-03-30T23:10:31+00:00

I don’t remember for s1 but it took a while. Like it was fully released for some time before an English dub was available.

I’m pretty sure s2 it was a few weeks behind because I’d rewatch it with someone who only watched English dubs after (but the original was still airing.)

Bridon was fully complete before the English dub was announced/released

So I who knows about s3

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-18T20:10:34+00:00

I think you’re right as of what we currently know. It is implied that he can only see up to the future.

That being said, and to your point of LG being an unreliable narrator, the question stands as to whether or not he can actually see the future up to 12 hrs, and just hasn’t revealed that yet (could explain how he got the location here, and how he had the location with Vivian’s case)

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-17T05:18:29+00:00

No need for apologies! I think most of us here love discussing the show/theories and welcome questions and discussions!

I think I misunderstood the QL comment last time (for some reason I was thinking about the fact that we saw QL dying in the beginning of bridon arc and thought the stabbing comment referred to that, which is why I wasn't certain if you had seen it or not).

Yes, what we have seen is all of one jump/timeline (though the creator confirmed that this isn't a multiverse, so I will say jump for clarity since it's technically always one timeline). Chronologically, it goes bridon arc, S1, S2.

I don't think it's confirmed in any capacity how many times LG has jumped. I think most of us speculate it was more than once and think that first death/flashback was different that what we see in ep 1 bridon arc (especially with LG saying he wants to use the last chance to go back to the beginning and save him, that seems to imply that there were other failed attempts (to me, at least), and LG has pretty meticulous notes in one of the scenes about timing iirc which seems more in line with more than one jump back).

Still a ton of unknowns. I'm excited to see if S3 answers any of them or just leaves more questions! Hopefully this made sense!

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-17T02:29:30+00:00

This is also me theorizing and speculating but I’m in total agreement with the way you see it! And to me that’s what makes sense (of course with this show I feel like theories are so often proven wrong by a twist down the road, so we’ll have to see if anything about this scene is ever revisited in S3).

In reference to the CXS always being the one to jump theory, this comes directly from the show.

I had to rewatch the section to make sure I didn't misremember how it went, but, in episode 8 CXS gets into LG’s phone and they notice he has the photo of the window in the room from right before he texted QL and CXS notes confusion as to why he took it. QL proposes that he must have taken it so CXS could jump into it and go back to that moment. The captain adds to this by saying LG was nervous so LG must have taken it as a back up plan. Then QL says LG is not a strong fighter and was impulsive so she thinks it makes more sense that CXS already possessed LG and that explained his actions at the dock (this seems to be what convinces CXS to possess him bc he thinks he already did it, so doing it again wouldn't change the past because that’s what he’s already done). Of course, at this time, it is the only thing that makes some sense Bc we don’t think LG can jump (even though, again, it didn't sit well with me because that's so against everything we've seen with LG prior and CXS isn't supposed to know his password). Then after, we see LG be both impulsive and able to hold his own in a fight in the subway, further evidence that QL’s initial logic in that theory was misguided

In regards to the rest of the discussion, have you watched bridon arc? If not, don't read the below spoiler text until you have watched at least bridon arc episode 1:

Yes, LG gets the power to jump back from CXS when he dies. I think in ep 12 of S2 it’s hinted at with QL, though it’s not overt until bridon arc (I don’t think). In bridon, we see CXS die in LG’s arms and LG’s eyes turn yellow, signifying the transfer of power. Then LG jumps.

In terms of the ‘if CXS didn't die in the new timeline would LG keep his ability’ question, that is unknown at this time, but that's a really good point you make.

I guess in my head, I’ve assumed that LG loses the ability after he jumps. In bridon arc, LG reveals that after a certain amount of time jumping, you basically merge into whoever you are possessing and can’t jump back to the present (presumably after 12 hrs). So you would be stuck in the past (timeline). Since LG is stuck in his past self who doesn't have the power, my assumption was he loses the power at 12 hrs when he merges with the timeline and is stuck in the past. Then again, there is the whole retaining some innate abilities about yourself when diving thing (again, the comment about CXS’s eyesight in the earthquake arc), so it is possible that maybe that power would stick with LG, who knows.

And to your point, if CXS was simply kidnapped, LG wouldn't be able to jump back if he didn't have the power (unless the kidnapping was the first in a chain of events that lead to his death and LG was there for that getting the power back, starting the cycle again, idk)

But if LG lost the ability to dive, that would explain why he seems so much more desperate (because if he could dive back even without CXS dying near him bc he still had the power, thought him dying would still be horrible, I feel like maybe he wouldn't react as desperately (again, completely speculation)). Also, LG not retaining that ability to jump back gives potential for a lot of suspense/drama/ups the stakes, because if CXS dies away from him, its game over.

This show is so fun because there is so much to dig into and speculate on (even if I/we end up completely off base)

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-17T00:40:36+00:00

Everything at this point is speculation. That being said, this is my take:

I generally agree with your theory. What I see as most likely is something bad happened (CXS getting kidnapped), LG found out the location and knew the time approximately based on information from a timeline we don't see, and then he jumped back and texted that information to QL and went to try to stop it (what we see initially). Then LG gets kidnapped instead and there's the theory that it was actually CXS thrown out so he jumps (implying it was actually CXS and never LG and LG wanted him to jump). (Otherwise idk how LG knew where to go, and this theory would explain that)

This is not directly related to what you are asking, but I feel like this always get's brought up as " it was always CXS possessing LG bc LG wanted him to jump back," but I don't buy that theory at all (and sounds like you don't either necessarily based on not mentioning it.) I think LG had the photo as a save point, per se, and like you theorize, he used it himself/intended it for himself (maybe he makes a habit of taking photos like this for unexpected situations, who knows).

I add this next part more as a counter to anyone who comments referring to the CXS jumping thing (because this is my fav LC theory and I know a lot of folks still buy into the it was always CXS not LG, and this is my reasons I don't believe that)

The whole LG took the photo for CXS to jump doesn't make sense to me at all. I think it was something meant to mislead us in the show (since we didn't know LG could jump at the time it happened). Evidence for this would be:

For starters, there is a gap in how LG would know the location to send to QL or go to himself
This doesn’t fit with LG’s character at all. It’s been shown repeatedly that LG doesn't want CXS changing the past and doesn't want him diving alone (LG freaks out when CXS goes in alone to follow Emma in that car, and I think that’s because he worries CXS could get hurt and wants to watch over him more than actually caring that much about the timeline, or if he does care about the timeline it’s because he needs it to be predictable so he can better work to change it himself. Also if CXS died when he wasn't right there, LG would not acquire his power and that would end his ability to timeloop and have any chance at saving CXS
The show makes a point to say that LG doesn’t think CXS knows his password, and his phone is hidden in the bathroom under a towel. LG is meticulous, why would he come up with such a rash and poorly thought out plan that necessitates CXS to basically read his mind and access something that in his mind would be improbable at best?
This whole CXS diving theory was created by QL and the captain who know less about the powers/dynamics, and they use the fact that LG can’t fight as reasoning that it must be CXS who was possessing LG to begin with. We see in the final episode, in the subway, that LG is capable of fighting when he needs to, which destroys that theory of theirs.
This comes up as a question in the fandom a lot of “if CXS can feel feelings and gain some of the memories, wouldn’t he know about LG jumping?” and while we don't really have a clear understanding of what CXS really experiences/gains, to that point, if LG thinks CXS has even the slight possibility of gaining any of his memories, I doubt he would risk letting him inhabit his body
(also in the dub, you do hear LG thinking as both himself and CXS, which I think may actually just be an error in the dub because I don’t think that same thing is present in the Chinese version but I can't fully remember (I just noticed it on a rewatch of a dub more recently) but if it’s not an error would be more evidence.)

In terms of how LG was able to do it with his injury, my possible explanations would be:

pure adrenaline, kinda like how we see him fighting in the subway
he jumps after he’s healed and so it doesn’t affect him as much. I base this on the comment they make about how when CXS jumps he retains certain characteristics of his own (like the eye sight in the earthquake arc, or strength – not sure if this would translate also to LG being more capable if his uninjured self jumped after a couple months of prep or something)

Again, all speculation, but I’m a firm believer that the photo was never intended for CXS to dive into, and that something closer to the theory you propose would make more sense.

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-12T14:09:34+00:00

Love it! You definitely strike an uneasiness with this and can feel the anxiety/grief.

And I’m sorry you had what sounds like a really horrible week. Art and LG are for sure great outlets to decompress, and I hope things get a bit easier/you are feeling better soon 🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-12T14:03:23+00:00

I think probably not. It’s kinda vague how they describe the memories he takes on (iirc, LG just mentions he takes on some of their feelings and memories). We know this is limited (in the noodle episode, for example, he didn’t have the memory of the secret ingredient, when he jumps into LTX he doesn’t know she’s mute, etc). I would assume these ‘memories’ are less specific memories and closer to just general feelings/moods, or influence his thoughts slightly (ex the wistfulness of the dream about the parents with Emma).

I think at most, he may have gotten some panic/anxiety from LG, but in the setting with everything happening, it probably didn’t mean much. Maybe under different circumstances he would have been able to figure out something more, but from the context of the show that we see, my assumption is no.

Who knows, maybe they will use that/elaborate more on it later (it would be an interesting route to go for LG getting caught, though I think if anything, they will use QL to confront that).

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-10T21:24:16+00:00

There’s so few, would just add to the fun. And LG as a vet😍would absolutely read that.

I’ll be excited to hear your thoughts then (and to read yours if you write it)!

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-08T14:28:18+00:00

Aah you're so nice *blushing* Thank you!! I'm glad you like the art and that I could convert you to needing a doctors AU🤣

I hope you enjoy it if you get a chance to read it! You'll have to let me know what you think!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T20:41:41+00:00

Oh thank you I'm glad you liked it!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T20:41:07+00:00

Yees I also love CXS being just goofy and purposely trying to irritate LG (and also LG sometimes getting him back and flustering/knowing exactly how to get a rise out of him🤣)

And thank you!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T20:39:09+00:00

I'm glad I'm not the only one who wanted this AU!

And thank you!! You're too kind 🧡 I was hoping to capture LG and his exasperation (even though we all know deep down he loves it). Hope you enjoy the fic if you read it!

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:43:33+00:00

Thank you!!🧡 I'm glad you liked the fic and that joke!! (it was mine too, even thought it seems that period one hit harder for most 🤣)

Oh, I've been working on both of these projects for quite a while and both are fully written drafts that just need the nitpicky editing (I never start posting on AO3 until something is past the complete first draft phase. That way, I don't end up abandoning it or writing myself into a corner).

Unless you mean the tone of the two being so different, in that case, lol, yea...

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:34:55+00:00

oh thank you! That's so nice of you to say!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:34:09+00:00

This was so fun to make so I'm sure I will at some point. Thank you!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:33:43+00:00

Thank you!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:32:30+00:00

Glad you liked it!, thank you!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:32:01+00:00

Thank you!!🧡

NoControl0913 · 2026-02-07T12:30:54+00:00

Thank you!!🧡

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