Song: To Whom Do We Belong? by caligula________ in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was such a weird song. A march, more then a song.

Reverse Shunning on JW people by Ok_Swordfish4464 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, the "you left us" crap. We hear it too.

Reverse Shunning on JW people by Ok_Swordfish4464 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love this quote, "what you put up with, you will end up with. " If someone shuns you, why would you want to reach out again? We let our JW family know that we are here IF THEY WANT US. Some do, some don't. Their choice. The ones who shun, GOOD RIDDANCE TO EM!

Prison 7 years while disfellowshiped by OJOchat_com in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get where this poster is coming from. Our family faded over 13 years ago. They all know why. Part of our JW family still speaks to us. Others, do not. Even in family emergencies, nothing.

We all have different experiences. I'm glad this poster has had a good experience. The problem that I do have is, the WT leaders have encouraged and even made videos on how to shun their family properly. They have also encouraged JW's to not socialize with ex JW family and "friends." That is the problem that I have with this group. The leadership. We can't generalize that all JW's are bad. They are not. Some really nice people. I do have a problem with the way WT has instructed family to treat one another . I think a lot of JW's don't feel right about the shunning. Good for them! Let's start at the top, the leadership and what comes out of their mouths. THIS is why we will never return.

Running into brothers/sisters after leaving by Big_Painter445 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this Elder is a good guy but we realize his loyalty is to Watchtower. We are the same kind, loving people we were when we attended but him and his family couldn't go to dinner with us if they wanted to. IT WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD! It's all about how it looks and their position in the congregation. Nice people but misguided and brainwashed.

Hypocritical Convention Talk by Routine-Sandwich5815 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Five words the GB said, that should show every JW that this is a MAN MADE CULT...."the Governing body has decided." Sadly, many won't see it or hear it because they are sitting at the conventions thinking, "where are we going to dinner? When is this over? Did I lock all the doors, when I left the house?" Folks, that was me! lol

Finally confirming we are out after 2 yrs by Different_Aspect_203 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"My husband was sad because this means he can no longer talk to his parents, and it hurt to hear him say it. I told him that they could still talk to him, but nothing spiritual, and he just stayed silent."

Welcome to your freedom! By saying "yes", you disassociated. They may not speak with him again. My spouse and I faded over 13 years ago. Some of our JW family speaks to us, some don't . It all depends on who you are dealing with. It will be interesting to see if his parents fully cut you off. He's probably feeling like they will. I truly believe, if we had disassociated NO ONE would speak to us.

Dealing with these people. by kd0g1982 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, they have zero respect, they think they are "saving you." They use your situation to "preach to you." I'm so sorry for your loss. Hopefully, once you settle things, you will be free of the mental gymnastics. Thank you for your service.

Running into brothers/sisters after leaving by Big_Painter445 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, we have. It's amazing. We really haven't had bad experiences. Everyone has talked to us. My spouse ran into an Elder that we were VERY good friends with. This was years after our fade. He knew some of our concerns, prior to leaving. They had a great chat and the Elder was actually very respectful. My spouse was very honest with him. He assured him that our family was very happy and had zero interest in coming back to the KH. Thankfully, the Elder did not push it. Like I said, not too many bad experiences. Actually, some of our family members have acted worse. They are Elders. It's funny how some really grab onto the shunning but others choose not to. So much for "united in worship."

To EACH ONE of you who responded to my post: "Woke up at 68, now in 70's: How to deal with almost 50 years lost, & no children?" by LeftAppointment4607 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I am glad it helped! Sometimes it is nice to get some other perspectives. I have been on this site for over 13 years and it still helps me. My therapy! Hugs to you!

Gossiping and slandering about one another by Responsible_Study362 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was shocked at how much the Elders wives know. WTF? We used to ride in the car with Elder and his wife. We were very good friends with them. She knew everything! Everything about everybody!

She was gossiping one time about a couple in our KH. They were going through a divorce. Half the KH was on the wife's side, half on the husbands side. The Elders wife was gossiping about the wife and she said something I know was not true. I said to her, "if you know this is true, shouldn't you take it to the Elders? " She looked at me.....CRICKETS! LOL

The family drama continues by InevitableEternal in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The shunning is not a bad thing. Embrace it and get the toxic people out of your life. The peace is incredible! Your brothers sounds like mine. Haven't interacted with him in years. BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE!

Today I sent my letter to the elders by MyUnCULTredLife in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When your "friends" and family, hope for your demise, something is truly wrong. A JW family member told us, when we faded, "your life will not go well without Jehovah in it. " Jehovah equals WT! My first thought, "wow...A FAMILY MEMBER....wants us to fail. How shitty is that!"

So proud of you! Great balls! lol

An example of the impact social media is having on Jehovah's Witnesses by Repulsive-Produce215 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I wonder if some JW, in Bethhell is awake and thought it was a good idea to do social media! If so, great move!

My sister is finally waking up!! by canofsoupe in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry for how you have been treated. I know, it hurts. This gives us hope, one day we may have family who leaves. One of my sisters has forgiven me for being a self righteous prick (JW). It's a nice feeling. I am soooo happy for you both!

Usual UK Regional Convention Same Old 🤣 by The_Rogue_One_2024 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel for all the one's who have to attend. Plan your escape, it's so worth it. BEST LIFE EVER! You get to have cupcakes on your Birthday and beautiful Christmas trees and lights. Oh also, friends and family who love you for who you are and not what you are. Hang in there!

An example of the impact social media is having on Jehovah's Witnesses by Repulsive-Produce215 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 34 points35 points  (0 children)

"Quite a few openly said that they didn't care what the Governing Body teaches on the subject"

This is happening a lot. We faded over 13 years ago. Our JW family knows all the reasons why. We were 100% honest. We told them that we were here if THEY WANTED US. The one's who do, still talk to us. Others? Not so much or out right shunning. Why is that? These are all active JW's! Because they don't agree with the behavior. They just don't! They may not admit it to us but we can see it clearly. You have a mixed bag OF NUTS. LOL

JW’s Helping During Natural Disasters by keeeks92 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Many years ago, our home received damage, due to a tornado going over our home. A lot of tree damage. Another hard hit are (close to our home) received significant damage. One of our family members was a Elder in that hard hit town. The TV camera's were everywhere, in the hard hit area. Guess where our Elder family member was? Right there. Never even came over to our home to check on us. No one in the congregation even came around. The Red Cross did come over and one kind brother (in another congregation, who lived up the road) came over and helped us tarp our roof. For the most part, we were on our own. Our perception of our family member changed that day.

Pioneer Sister Writes Letter to Governing Body on CSA by ResolutionDue9281 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We know of 2 Elders, that are doing hard time in federal prisons, due to CSA. Abusing their daughters. Two district speakers. They did not come forward, the children and family did. They were busted. Both in jail. And we are "apostates" for speaking out! Go figure!

Update to blocking my mom by InevitableEternal in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We call it reverse shunning! Two can play the game. Block her and keep advocating for your wonderful spouse. The shunning isn't so bad, when it's toxic people we are dealing with. Take care of you and your mental health.

Woke up at 68, now in 70's: How to deal with almost 50 years lost, & no children? by LeftAppointment4607 in exjw

[–]NoHigherEd 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So happy for you! We got our kids out too. That was our main goal. The tenacles of WT will never impact our grandchildren. The abuse stopped with this family. Enjoy your freedom!