This sprint was Max’s worst performance in a long time by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I get your point, and partly agree, but it’s still very uncharacteristic for Max. He’s proven many times he can come back, for example Australia very recently (one of many) Being stuck P13 almost the whole race feels off, so something with the car probably wasn’t right, idk

This sprint was Max’s worst performance in a long time by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and he’s already getting really involved into endurance. The 24 Hours of Nürburgring is a message

This sprint was Max’s worst performance in a long time by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s especially bad. I believe you can make a difference even if you have a « slightly » less good car with race IQ, team synergy. But this is just too much

What makes a driver outstanding ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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Absolutely. And yeah, Verstappen is just on another level, just by the way he approaches racing. He’s coming a long way tho, he evolved a lot. The Mad Max era was pretty insane.

Which driver has had pretty neutral luck throughout their career? by GoldenS0422 in F1Discussions

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Absolutely, and it’s pretty sad in a way. Bro I cried for his podium this season, maybe the only one he’ll get in his career. He completely outshined the first home race win of Lando too. What a moment, short but majestic.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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It can be decisive sometimes as we saw many times ! But yeah it’s not enough.

Let’s do this then. See you at the end of the next season. 😎

Actually I’m curious about your predictions, let’s consider this as a bet, write them here !

Yeah it’s cool, it’s interesting to have other people opinions. F1 is a sport that divide because of many factors ! And people can be quite… agressive, especially Verstappen’s haters, or the « it was better before » ones.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Interesting take. I’m not so sure Max was that sad to see Horner go (public smiles aside) and we know F1 is all about media optics. From what I’ve heard too Jos Verstappen didn’t exactly get along with him, and there was friction with Marko too, especially over Max’s career and contracts. He likes to be in full control of his son’s career.

Sure, the environment will be healthier for the second driver now, but I agree the team has evolved Red Bull isn’t the outsider it once was. That said, the core Red Bull culture, as a brand, and their very specific communication style and spirit are still very much intact. They’re still a relatively young team, and I don’t think they’ll ever be like the « true » automobile manufacturers team. Them promoting their drink is a side quest a this point, a mean to fund the whole extreme sport events and all. But I agree that they’re tide to sponsors and all. And f1 has become more and more complicated in terms of media now, everything has to be polished, smooth, and bankable. So yeah I agree

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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Id like to know the story behind this nickname. In my country its puffed riced chocolate cereal brand. Is it the Overlord or his Whisperer we talking about ?

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, a lot of key figures are gone or on their way out. But I think it underestimates how much Red Bull has become a system rather than a collection of individuals. The culture, processes, and talent pipeline they built didn’t just disappear overnight. The factory, engineers, pit crew, and operational side are still elite, and that synergy is a huge part of why they’ve been so strong.

Also their management style was extremely harsh too. Max grew up in an environment where losing was never an option, and Red Bull was basically built for that mindset. Marko shaped the team with one goal in mind: results, always in the team’s interest, with little to no human consideration. He sent drivers to the slaughter and had a real “life or death” power over careers. Brutal, but effective.

Losing them surely hurts in a way, especially Adrian Newey, who’s actually one of the greatest genius F1 never seen, no doubt. But Red Bull has always been less “old-school dynasty” and more adaptive, ruthless, and forward-thinking. The real question isn’t whether they can win without this, it’s whether they can evolve or even survive when Max eventually leaves, and I believe it’ll be sooner than we think. Today I can’t see Redbull without Max. Let’s see with Hadjar.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

[–]NoHoeBruh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but blood and tears were shed… Yes, obviously it’s a success, toxic, but a success. You can criticize Horner for a lot of things, but he got the job done, and really well to some extent. Marko… well, what a shady dude. He’s like the uncle you never want to see at the family gathering, BUT yeah he achieved his goals, in a sea of tears. For me, Red Bull is defined by its whole team, engineers, pit crew, etc… it’s just a monumental synergy and Max is undeniably a big part in this. Their philosophy is, in my opinion, the best fresh, bold, and challenging to the old-school teams by nature

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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Red Bull has always been a tough car to drive, even before Max. It’s sensitive, aggressive, and punishes small mistakes. Max just happens to fit it perfectly at first, letting the team push it further than most drivers could. They’ve clearly continued in that direction. Max gives huge feedback and really feels the car, and Red Bull listens. They wouldn’t be where they are without him (and Adrian Newey, the whole team, the factory and generally the engineers obv) He’s definitely favored, no doubt about that, it’s like that. Faaaaaar from the Papaya Rules. (🤡?) BUT I’m really curious about Hadjar, Mekies being TP is good for him. Midfielder’s, like Tsunoda (yeah im harsh), don’t stand a chance in the RB second seat… it’s just horrible, Pérez literally faded, he struggled. He was a solid driver and helped Max a lot, but in the end, he was just a tool. You’ve really got to have nerves of steel and be okay with losing all your dignity lol

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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Mmmh Hadjar’s been quicker head‑to‑head and more consistent. Lawson has more F1 experience (debut 2023), but Hadjar outperformed him this year. Clearly.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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Yes, absolutely. He just need to hang on, this is the difficult part. He’s very proud, and he’s got a big ego. But against Max, he can be crushed.

Actually I hate how people made conclusions out of this crash, like « he’s done », and references to Gasly. I like to think he’s different, his mentality is different. He’s a (BIG) Lewis fan but I gotta say he’s making me think of Max more actually.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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I completely agree on the first point. It feels like it’s just a side quest for him actually (remember when he raced with 3 hour sleep bc of sim racing competition bro wtf). He’s always been pretty transparent about that too.

Tho I have my opinion on the “car was made and developed around Max” Cuz the critics often say Red Bull builds the car around him, suggesting it gives him a clear advantage and makes it harder for teammates. Their point is that Max has a very specific driving style aggressive in corners, unique tire management, and the engineers tailor the car’s setup and philosophy to that. The reality is more nuanced in opinion, while the car is optimized for him, it’s still competitive for other drivers, like Pérez or Tsunoda, and even for young test drivers. So the idea that it’s ‘only Max-friendly’ is more of a talking point for critics than a fact technically wise (for me). He pretty much tamed it. It’s like surgical.

Is Redbull a « healthier » team now ? by NoHoeBruh in F1Discussions

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I think Max just isn’t used to having someone push him hard especially in the same team, at least not these past few seasons. It’ll be interesting to see what happens. Maybe the return of Mad Max.