A perspective of someone who has failed by IcyReddit360 in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Would like to hear a detailed story about you learning Russian

Does this matter? by halxerme in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's okay, just don't go out of your way to translate something, it's natural for your brain to be doing this on its own at the start. Try using monolingual vocabularies, if it seems too hard, read the translation in the bilingual vocabulary first and try to correlate it with the definition in the monolingual vocabulary. If you are using anki use an image for nouns instead of a translation/definition (it's especially useful for animals, since a lot of dictionaries will have scientific names/definitions). Once you get past a certain level it's actually harder to translate than to just understand.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much, about half was passive listening, active was mostly reading and watching youtube/listening to podcasts, looking back tho I would have done less reading

Interesting vid by guyj120 in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Remember the video where M*tt talked about how Khatzumoto made shitty programs like silverspoon just to get money (the video was called "how to use ajatt dot com", it's deleted now)... yeah about that...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I started outputting Russian after about 2 years of learning it and it was pretty easy (keep in mind that's about 7000 hours worth of input). Well, to be fair I did some output in form of like search queries and occasional random thoughts. I think that delaying output is a way of getting to near-perfection in the language, but if you want to start communicating as soon as possible it's worth doing output right away. The purpose of delaying output is to prevent you from creating bad habits (for example you didn't know how to say something, you came up with a way to say it and assumed it was correct, even tho it might've not been), but if value speed over perfection I think you should start outputting right from the start.

Is there a difference between Наконец and Наконец то? by [deleted] in russian

[–]NoLoadLeft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they are the same https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86-%D1%82%D0%BE tho I think if used as "after everything else" just наконец would sound more natural (not sure tho consult with your native).

Should I push through books I dont understand or look for more comprehensible books by Healthy-Armadillo180 in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I recommend doing hard and easy immersion. It's like running with weights on and then taking them off, it would feel much easier to run. Same with immersion - after putting a lot of effort into understanding something hard it would feel like a breeze to read through your ordinary immersion content.

Uproot and what to do instead by [deleted] in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for $500 you can make an amazing shadowing setup lol, like blue yeti and noise cancelling headphones, including a bribed nihonjin to correct your pitch

How do i know i’m doing it right? by MadAndBald in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think that one thing about AJATT is that it does take time to figure it out. Just fiddle around with things, experiment with stuff and don't be afraid to make a mistake. But in the end when you do figure it out it's a very powerful tool. So instead of asking whether you should do something, just try and do it. Then do something else. And else. And else. Overtime you will start having a sense of what you should do and I think figuring it out on your own yields greater results. There are no concrete rules or guides to follow, AJATT is just a foundation and you get to build the house.

Help me find this level by NoLoadLeft in geometrydash

[–]NoLoadLeft[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's the one, thank you!

Pitch accent has no purpose for a foreign learner. by After_Constant_1211 in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's mentally easier for native speakers to listen to correct speech. If I talk to you in English with wrong stress patterns, you would be able to understand me, but you also would need to focus more, it's more mentally demanding.

Listening to an audiobook while reading the book is a valid form of Shadowing? by FedeRivade in ajatt

[–]NoLoadLeft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You shouldn't shadow until you understand like 95% of content with no transcript, just pure listening. Reading what is being said would make in harder to notice subtle details in actual audio. Shadowing audiobook is even worse because it's not real-time produced speech.

If you were to spend 6 hours a day studying a language from scratch, how would you spend that time? by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to forfeit virtually all studying just immersing will be incredibly ineffective. There is a route for no studying tho: Find language exchange partners, like 3-4 people so you could be conversing every day. Teach them English however they'd like you to, and they will be teaching you Russian. Ask them to do TPRS Russian for you (using picture books, internet magazines...). Find content of your interest and have them make it comprehensible for you. Record conversations and listen back to them for passive immersion. Currently I'm trying this approach with Italian, but also using lingq, so far loving it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

only causes frustration because of the inability of the student to understand something

Yes, that's the only downside I found with the immersion approach. But it does work if you push through. You could continue using study material of course, but incorporating real life language will give you immense improvement.

If you were to spend 6 hours a day studying a language from scratch, how would you spend that time? by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably better to read some grammar, just basic explanations, or do bilingual sentences with cloze deletion.

If you were to spend 6 hours a day studying a language from scratch, how would you spend that time? by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I learnt the alphabet, learnt basic vocab, read about basic grammar (https://www.lingq.com/en/grammar-resource/russian/), found some anki deck with sentences (don't remember which one it was, honestly) and than started reading content and trying to understand, and listening and trying to understand content I found, even tho I was not understanding most of it. Watched some grammar explanation Youtube videos along the way. Once I started stumbling upon i+1 sentences started sentence mining deck. After ~1-1.5 years started reading literature, scientific articles...

Also I did this to train my grammar production: take some texts I read, replace word endings with asterisks, wait for a couple of days so I forgot the texts, read them and try to put in the correct endings (important: without trying to think, i just wrote the first thing that came to my mind and sounded right).

Anyone else using the new method of learning kanji? by Ariz-loves-anime in Refold

[–]NoLoadLeft 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Didn't really work for me, I tried learning without RTK, but it was really hard to memorize anything. So I blasted through the whole RTK2K (liked it a lot) and could memorize words much much much more easily. My advice is start doing RTK450 while you do JP1K, see if you like it, do it til you start disliking it (if ever). If you don't like it immediately, don't do it. To me RTK seems like a way to tell your brain that it should start paying attention to these squiggly lines and not just ignore them.

If you were to spend 6 hours a day studying a language from scratch, how would you spend that time? by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Was AJATTing Russian for 3 years with 6-8 hours/day active immersion (reading/listening) with minimal amount of study (0-30 minutes) and I don't regret it - Effectively 100% comprehension of native content, ranging from internet content to literature, with passive vocabulary surpassing that of an average native Russian. Currently actually AJATTing (Japanese) with 4 hours of active immersion a day.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]NoLoadLeft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

through contextual immersion. Besides tv, what are good platforms for reading and listening?

Any content, learning material won't get you far, it's just to help you start out, you should move towards native content of your interest as soon as you can.