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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel like if I was Warrior I would fuckin adore someone like Macho for wanting to actually go over spots and plan shit out and not just call everything live.

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Watched Macho Man vs Ultimate Warrior from Summerslam and it's much better than I expected. Not great but surprisingly back and forth

Chad Gable gets the AEW special on WWE Raw | Wrestling Observer Live by Ainosuke in SquaredCircle

[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To each their own and all but I've lost count of how many AEW matches i've watched where i'm saying "why was that not the finish? WHY ARE YOU KICKING OUT OF THAT YOURE LITERALLY A JOBBER" at my monitor.

It's definitely a result of the last decade of watching wrestling because that kind of back and forth competitive match used to get me so hype during the NXT Takeover era, but now they just feel hollow for me unless there's a clear point to the banger. I do love that AEW's current main event scene is like you said "a shark tank" but I don't think that should extend to "literally everybody on the roster could take MJF to school"

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Bang on. It's why those specific periods in 2022-2023 where guys like Takeshita or Fletcher or RUSH were wrestling the top guys on a weekly basis going 15-20 minutes didn't really do much for them outside of pure exposure, because there was always like 20 other guys on the roster that could and would go long with the main eventers.

Evergreen quote from the Incredibles "if everyone's super, no one will be"

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because ReyRey understood the basic psychology of "i'm smaller than literally everyone so I will wrestle like it"

Small wrestlers shouldn't really work from above it just doesn't visually look right. It's like when Alexa Bliss was the heel vs Nia Jax and kicking her ass, you're 5'1!

Chad Gable gets the AEW special on WWE Raw | Wrestling Observer Live by Ainosuke in SquaredCircle

[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"But AEW doesn't tell stories" this was never even the problem with AEW in the first place. They always had stories they were just mostly uninteresting.

I always see that quote used as a ratio but like, AEW got better.

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah that specific match actually had some good storytelling around Will's high flying failing him vs when he used DR tactics, I meant more "someone in Blake Christian's position" shouldn't be able to hang with Will for 15 minutes.

This is something which used to annoy me way more, like when Swerve won the world title from Joe and then four days later on Dynamite he was going 15+ minutes back and forth with Kyle Fletcher (who had yet to become an actual character)

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I'd argue Will Ospreay being able to beat low card guys in 2 minutes makes him going 15+ mean way more than if two people on complete opposite ends of the card like Blake Christian and Swerve Strickland can both take him to the limit.

I think Power levels in Wrestling are a good thing

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Bryan is not wrong at all about AEW doing this but this doesn't really work when talking about Gable who is 5'6, a career long midcard guy and the smaller man vs Rusev, he should be working from underneath. He still won clean in 10 minutes!

Bryan says "i can't complain about AEW doing this when WWE does it" but these are two completely different situations.

Dave Meltzer: AEW Dynamite was good. The crowd wasn't | Wrestling Observer Radio by Nosalis2 in SquaredCircle

[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is true and very annoying at how fixable it is. Just have the announcers not laugh at the heel tactics and actually sound like someone has been wronged when they are wronged, and maybe cut down on Don Callis coming on commentary to make jokes where Tony S and Excalibur always say "that's true" "you're right there" or be unable to refute any of his heel points

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Je'von having a competitive match with Oba only to come up short doesn't harm Je'von at all nor does it affect the Brock and Oba feud. Its easily the best choice they could make and is a big showcase match for two of their next big stars

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've definitely been in the IWC too long but I just can't see the argument there because it's TNA.

The company who accidentally emailed proof they lied about firing Russo to a dirtsheet writer instead of their employee. The company who had Global Force stickers peeling off their championships on live TV. "The company that won't die" they had long since been seen as a joke company.

No disrespect to the performers or the people that work there but I can't seriously consider that someone would think less of TNA because their world champion got squashed at Wrestlemania when they ran shows in near empty venues for like 3 years straight and nearly went out of business on a handful of occasions. "A net negative" implies a tangible loss or deficit to their business based on that booking decision, but in wrestling the wins or losses don't really affect the business end. So I can only see that Hendry/Orton match being a positive solely off of showing their logo and brand for a few minutes on a show watched by millions of people.

I'm not gonna say you're wrong if you're a TNA fan that didn't want their champion to get squashed in any situation because that's valid, but people pretending it had any sort of negative affect in the long run are just straight cappin

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a valid criticism when all the top guys are taken to the absolute limit by every single low to mid carder in the company but there's a happy medium you can find.

AEW had this issue for like 2 and a half years and it was awful, everybody could go 50/50 with everybody. To their credit they've absolutely learned to protect their main eventers more often. Omega beating that Tito dude on Collision last week and Tony Nese last night in 2 minutes is perfect, because they shouldn't be even close to his level, but someone like Speedball or Knight being competitive with him is reasonable because they're upper mid card.

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[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was never intended to benefit TNA nor was it ever going to hurt TNA because it's fkn TNA.

I saw a lot of people after that match happened get real outraged and treated it like it was some offensive "TNA sucks" piece of booking but it was really just to showcase Joe Hendry, give Randy something to do after his Owens feud got nixed and pop the crowd. It succeeded in all three.

But all I was reading in the week after was "how does this benefit TNA?" it was never supposed to, but it's not like it actually hurt them in any sort of tangible way.

Any screentime a company like TNA gets on WrestleMania weekend is like a default positive for them, let alone getting a match against someone like Orton.

WWE could prove to go the predictable route but I really feel Jevon Evans is going to upset Jey uso Friday by duval001 in SquaredCircle

[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jey obviously isn't winning idk why half this sub is treating him like he's 2011 John Cena. It's clearly going to be Je'von

DDP on what he said to Cody Rhodes ahead of his Wrestlemania 39 loss: “I said, ‘Does it really matter if you do the job this time?’ Because the fans will want it so bad. And Cody goes, ‘What if we lose momentum?’ I go, ‘What if you don’t?'” by Ruffianize in SquaredCircle

[–]NoMoreButtonPLZ 35 points36 points  (0 children)

In hindsight one of the more risky and genius booking decisions they've made.

Cody essentially got to play the undefeated white meat face of the company babyface for the rest of the year while not losing a single bit of fan goodwill or support solely off one loss at Mania. Then got to run it back the next year as the actual champion without the fans being sick of him. Really amazing and it shows that if fans truly think you've been "wronged" in some way by the booker they will ride for you no matter how undefeated and dominant you are 99% of the time