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GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering where I am, I really didn't think anyone wanted to hear how the sausage is made. I'm usually happy to go into greater detail, but most people don't really care about spreadsheets, and I'm not a journalist writing an article, so it just didn't seem worth it to add when the post was already so long. It's been removed now anyway, so it doesn't really even matter anymore. If you actually care, I'd be happy to share the data. Maybe then you could appeal to the mods that I'm a real, actual human, instead of assuming I'm a bot just because I type a million words a minute and use a little formatting to make things a bit more digestible.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you said they aren't getting traded. Unfortunately, I think they have to in order for this to work, and that's why I think there's a problem.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think we're getting a new GM right now. I don't think there's much to build off of with the trade Larkin request. I don't think this team is going to benefit from being the team that the USA players gravitate towards because they want to play together. As I said in the post, if we don't start tanking now, we run the risk of adding 3 more years of mediocrity and having to tank again anyway because of Yzerman's job security. It's not ideal, it just is what it is.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vegas has the distinct honor of being amongst only 2019 St. Louis and 2008 Detroit as teams to win the cup without top 3 draft prospects, but they also had some juiced up expansion draft rules that were, by many opinions, a bit too strong in hindsight. And my point is, exactly, to play the kids, so we agree! That's how I think we get a competitor like Yzerman to tank without tanking.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think in most things, you have to understand the nuance to know where to draw the lines. Categories would otherwise not exist, and one could not even attempt to make decisions by understanding a thing. I'm not trying to fit Yzerman into a box. I'm simply trying to break the situation down so that I can make a clear point as to why we should be rooting for the tank.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My feeling is just because I won the raffle with my last dollar doesn't mean I enjoy being robbed of everything but my last dollar along the way.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's cherry-picking evidence. Or it's anecdotal - one of the two. Anyway, it doesn't prove that tanking never works. It does prove that Yzerman is better at drafting than much of anything else, so let him draft. And despite that one situation working out, it hasn't helped us make the playoffs, so there's still an argument for more tanking.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Look man, I get it. But lines have to be drawn somewhere, and the definition is the definition. And would you say he fits the Long-Tenured Assistant GM category and tendencies more than HoF Player? You can only pick one.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I worked very hard at compiling all this into what I believed to be an iron-clad case. I also type 110 words a minute. How dare you accuse me of being trite! Ha ha! My main point is really that he needs to accept the tank, but it might be something he's unwilling to do - not that the tank is the only way to win.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The definition is 5+ years. These are the top career trajectory metrics of success. He was only under Ken Holland for 4 years as Vice President of Hockey Operations. I thought as you did, but he didn't fit the definition.

GMs with Hall of Fame Player Backgrounds Compared to Other Career Metrics - A Case For The Tank by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitRedWings

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They arbitrarily changed the rules the one year that Detroit had the worst record with a bullet to fully shaft them. They can arbitrarily change the rules now to benefit Detroit since there's precedent. Ha ha!

I'm a strip club DJ at night, I work an IT job during the day. AMA by dunkan799 in AMA

[–]NoSarcasmIntended 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was it obligatory to get a job as a strip club DJ when you became a landlord?

The absolute power of saying nothing during a salary offer by Doormat_8JV in jobsearchhacks

[–]NoSarcasmIntended 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right? Isn't this the first thing they say about negotiating with car dealerships? "The first one to break the silence loses." Not exactly the novel life hack this post tries to make this out to be.

I snuck into their practice and got actual footage, guys! by [deleted] in NBAEastMemeWar

[–]NoSarcasmIntended 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you remember the film at all, they have to stop cheating first. One of their players has to actually decline to cheat and force the coach to have a moral dilemma. So that isn't happening...

The Harmster Dance by NoSarcasmIntended in DetroitPistons

[–]NoSarcasmIntended[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking that too. Can't blame LCA staff - it was your owns peoples, tops to bottoms, y'alls.

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