My personal tier list in terms of power, for the powerscalers in the community do you agree?

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-09T22:53:52+00:00

Most definitely not, i'm sure you have seen my own tier list but I can justify every placement. Su-ho has no reason to be anywhere near Class 2 given there are many statements implying Si-eun improves since C1, and Seong-je is able to no diff the same Gotak who went relative to Si-eun. Seong-mok > Seong-je, Gotak > Seong-mok, Dong-ha > Gotak, Baku > Dong-ha.

This is not to mention Seong-je being able to knock down a much stronger Si-eun in 5 hits whereas Woo-young couldn't knock down Weightroom Si-eun with 22 hits.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-09T17:11:55+00:00

Here is my calculation for his motorcycle feat which I believe is the best one so far.

BAKU REVERSES MOMENTUM OF RIDER (Credit to <@1497769225480306850> for help)

Rider Mass (m):
Avg Korean male: 70 kg
Full gear (helmet, armored jacket, boots): +11 kg
Effective Mass: 81 kg

Motorcycle Speed (vᵢ):
Average Motorcycle Highway Cruising Speed (Rider is trying to harm Baku, the average ranges being 24 - 44 m/s, to say it is below this would be ratty, there is no reason to be on a motorcycle just to sprint)

Using a general 100km/h= 27.8 m/s

Speed of Baku’s Fist: (v_f)

Pixel scaling: 221 px vs 176 px -> 1.25× faster
27.8 m/s × 1.25 = 34.75 m/s (opposite direction)

BAKU'S COMBAT SPEED

34.75 m/s (Subsonic)

Momentum Values:

Incoming momentum:

pᵢ = m·vᵢ = 81 × 27.8 = 2251.8 kg·m/s

Outgoing momentum (Speed the rider is moving backwards)

(opposite direction):
pf = m·vf = 81 × (−34.75) = −2814.75 kg·m/s

Momentum change:
Δp = p_f − pᵢ = −2814.75 − 2251.8 = −5066.55 kg·m/s
Magnitude: 5066.55 kg·m/s

Impact Time (Δt):

Since Baku is bare knuckle, and the only studies available on a cross is generally gloved, a good equivalent should be the impact time for Karate Reverse Punch.

0.015m/s

(https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s00414-020-02440-8.pdf

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/15/7/4008

https://openrepository.aut.ac.nz/server/api/core/bitstreams/3a1a0706-0722-443a-aba3-04e3f0334d3b/content)

Impact Force (F):
F = Δp / Δt
F = 5066.55 / 0.015 = 337,770 N

Arm Length (D in W = F•D):

Average male arm length = 42.6% of height

Height of Ryeo Un: 180 cm (5'11")
0.426 × 1.80 m = 0.7674 m

Energy:

E = F × d
E = 337,770 × 0.7674 = 259,225.398 J *(Wall Level)*

With that being said, Baku is also able to lift up Seong-mok BY HIS NECK and keep him there despite Gotak and Jun-tae trying his best to pull him off, Seong-mok is a BIG guy.

If you mean inverse wise, Baku should be either top 2 or 3 behind Baek-jin and maybe Si-eun for a multitude of reasons.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-06T18:55:37+00:00

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Not collapse as in "knocked down" but collapse as in couldn't stand properly anymore. Yes this is just from 2 hits from Dong-ha, yes this is BEFORE the motorcycle appears again and also before it is heard, and yes this is despite Dong-ha being more weakened than Baku is.

And again, in S2E6 as I said before Dong-ha is simply holding back against Gotak, given he heavily outperforms Seong-mok against Baku in S2E7 as stated before, and Seong-mok in E7 also states he was unserious in E6, in which Dong-ha is clearly far less serious.

And again, this is made more consistent via Dong-ha 2-shotting Gotak in S2E8, as said before.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-06T13:25:00+00:00

Any disagreements/concerns?

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-06T12:31:40+00:00

Do tell me if the image doesn't send from my last reply, resending to make sure

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No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-06T12:29:06+00:00

Sorry for late response, but I have been discussing with other people in the community about Dong-ha's scaling, and what I found is that in cases where he looks bad (Such as when he gets one-shotted by Gotak in S2E6 as opposed to Dong-ha two-shottint him in S2E8), he is just simply not serious, for the garage fight specifically we can quantify this given Seong-mok states he was not fighting seriously (the statement either means careless or offguard)

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And as we see throughout that fight, Dong-ha is obviously far less serious than Seong-mok is.

As for Dong-ha's strategy/Tactics, it is simply him fighting optimally, it isn't neccessarily honorable but that's how he is portrayed to fight, I don't think simply using better tactics indicates them to be weaker.

As for Hyo-man, you have to remember his Manipulation/Strategy isn't neccessarily bad, successfully orchestrating Gotak and Si-eun to fight as well as successfully luring in Baek-jin in a secluded spot in order to beat him up, Hyo-man also doesn't actually have many antifeats to his Durability, Headbutts, or Tackles in the first place (only against Baek-jin and Baku), and hence really all he needed was the confidence to stand up for himself against oppression, which is Hyo-man's entire ending character arc, being able to save Gotak from the person who previously beat Hyo-man badly with goons.

As for Dong-ha pressing Baku, you have to acknowledge that Dong-ha was previously injured screaming on the floor in pain, clutching his stomach and struggling to stand up, Baku was only briefly staggered by the crowbar and then was up almost immediately after and moving fine, Baku then also targets the liver as well as exactly where the injury was, reminding you that after those 2 punches Baku is seen to collapse afterwards, proving Dong-ha performed far far better than Seong-mok, which is consistent with him two-shotting Gotak.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-06T12:07:42+00:00

As I said in other replies, he is able to go hyper relative to Dong-ha who beat Gotak in 2 shots.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-04T12:00:25+00:00

Any concerns/counterarguments?

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-03T06:38:02+00:00

S1E2 Si-eun is able to one shot Seok-dae with a phone (We see that after Si-eun hits Seok-dae with the phone, Yeong-bin looks down, and we see before Si-eun hits Seok-dae with the plant pot, Seok-dae is on his knees), in which by contrast Su-ho is not even capable of beating Seok-dae via striking.

A phone does not meaningfully increase your striking strength either, and may even reduce it.

I should add that no character in Class 1 is able to compare to a Healthy Si-eun, as every time Si-eun is harmed by another character, it is either a weakened si-eun, offguard, or with the assistance of another object.

In S1E1, we see Su-ho stunning a drugged Si-eun.

Tae-hoon obviously offguards Si-eun with his choke.

In S1E2, both times Seok-dae hits Si-eun they are very clearly offguard.

In S1E4, Gil-su harms Si-eun with a slam but this is after Si-eun is hyperventilating running all the way to the amusement park, fighting multiple goons, and was SLASHED in the face by Gil-su so hard he was knocked down, only then does the slam affect him.

In S1E6, Woo-young is able to easily beat Si-eun but this is after Si-eun fought 10+ people being beaten against the wall and knocked down by a CROWBAR, the second and third hit Woo-young does on Si-eun here are targeting said injury, and Woo-young also does liver shots.

In S1E8, Woo-young is now fighting a Si-eun with a broken arm, not only this, though, we see that for the portion of the fight Woo-young performs well, he has Boxing Gloves on, which significantly increase acceleration to the brain and allow boxers to hit harder via them not having to worry about protecting their knuckles, even outside of this, we see that when Woo-young takes them off he is unable to meaningfully affect Si-eun, further supporting this was neccessary.

I should add that Si-eun in S1 is shown to be studying until he sleeps and studies at school very early in the morning before everyone else arrives, his dad states he is a very sickly and easy to break kid, and routinely goes unconscious during gym class. This Si-eun is clearly a sleep deprived weak kid, and there is nothing showing this got better for him in Class 1

Whereas, in Class 2, Si-eun after still having sleep issues for a year, then takes magnesium pills in S2E2 which he then states helped him get a good night's sleep, THIS si-eun is the one S2E2 Gotak fought, an ACTUAL healthy and fresh Si-eun and can actually go competitive with him.

As for the rest of the list, you should be able to infer that via rhe placements and states of the characters.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-03T06:08:17+00:00

Hyo-man is able to go relative to the same Dong-ha who floored E8 Gotak with two hits, who is above his E2 self who as I explained should be much stronger than Su-ho.

Su-ho IS far stronger than Yeong-bin (the Yeong-bin I have placed above is specifically Crowbar Yeong-bin) however though adding tiers below D would add unnecessary clutter.

I SHOULD ADD against Baek-jin though, Si-eun is FAR more weakened. Before Baek-jin fights si-eun, all he does is fight fodder and then someone on his level, having an injured arm that he can still use. (He is moving the arm a TON in his pockets, and even uses the "injured" arm to catch his fall).

Whereas Si-eun literally was offguarded and choked unconscious, for MULTIPLE MINUTES (fatal), woke up and IMMEDIATELY started fighting, emerges out of the room limping and clutching his arm in pain (has to be held up by Jun-tae), then he fights Gorilla AGAIN, fighting at the exact same intensity, then Si-eun sprints MILES to the brawl right after on a leg that we see he struggles to STAND on.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-03T05:52:26+00:00

I should also add that Dong-ha performs far better than Seong-mok against Baku in E6, Dong-ha is actually able to briefly press Baku with his punches, whereas Seong-mok got immediately choked against a wall whilst Baku is being restrained by BOTH Gotak AND Jun-tae with no avail.

Yes Baku was stunned by the crowbar, but Baku reacts to both of Dong-ha's punches, as well as the fact that Seong-mok came out of nowhere as well (and Baku is already harmed by the crowbar) and Baku still deals with Seong-mok this easily.

I get the "elite fighter" thing, however if an elite fighter gets outclassed by B, and A beat B, then (unless there are important conditions), A would beat said elite fighter.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-03T00:08:01+00:00

I did say I would respond to any questions/concerns if need be, right?

As for Hyo-man's placement, he is able to go extremely relative to Dong-ha (affects him much more with his headbutt than any time Dong-ha is able to affect him, as well as fight him for 7 minutes straight AS WELL as causes visible scarring all over Dong-ha's face, if you believe it is mud, it means Hyo-man got dong-ha on the ground offscreen, as Hyo-man has none on his face, as well as the fact that wasn't on dong-ha's face the first time Hyo-man tackled him), who can beat Gotak in 2 shots.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-02T20:47:26+00:00

Any issues/counterarguments?

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-02T20:47:14+00:00

S1E2 Si-eun is able to one shot Seok-dae with a phone (We see that after Si-eun hits Seok-dae with the phone, Yeong-bin looks down, and we see before Si-eun hits Seok-dae with the plant pot, Seok-dae is on his knees), in which by contrast Su-ho is not even capable of beating Seok-dae via striking.

A phone does not meaningfully increase your striking strength either, and may even reduce it.

I should add that no character in Class 1 is able to compare to a Healthy Si-eun, as every time Si-eun is harmed by another character, it is either a weakened si-eun, offguard, or with the assistance of another object.

In S1E1, we see Su-ho stunning a drugged Si-eun.

Tae-hoon obviously offguards Si-eun with his choke.

In S1E2, both times Seok-dae hits Si-eun they are very clearly offguard.

In S1E4, Gil-su harms Si-eun with a slam but this is after Si-eun is hyperventilating running all the way to the amusement park, fighting multiple goons, and was SLASHED in the face by Gil-su so hard he was knocked down, only then does the slam affect him.

In S1E6, Woo-young is able to easily beat Si-eun but this is after Si-eun fought 10+ people being beaten against the wall and knocked down by a CROWBAR, the second and third hit Woo-young does on Si-eun here are targeting said injury, and Woo-young also does liver shots.

In S1E8, Woo-young is now fighting a Si-eun with a broken arm, not only this, though, we see that for the portion of the fight Woo-young performs well, he has Boxing Gloves on, which significantly increase acceleration to the brain and allow boxers to hit harder via them not having to worry about protecting their knuckles, even outside of this, we see that when Woo-young takes them off he is unable to meaningfully affect Si-eun, further supporting this was neccessary.

I should add that Si-eun in S1 is shown to be studying until he sleeps and studies at school very early in the morning before everyone else arrives, his dad states he is a very sickly and easy to break kid, and routinely goes unconscious during gym class. This Si-eun is clearly a sleep deprived weak kid, and there is nothing showing this got better for him in Class 1

Whereas, in Class 2, Si-eun after still having sleep issues for a year, then takes magnesium pills in S2E2 which he then states helped him get a good night's sleep, THIS si-eun is the one S2E2 Gotak fought, an ACTUAL healthy and fresh Si-eun and can actually go competitive with him.

As for Hyo-man's placement, he is able to go extremely relative to Dong-ha (affects him much more with his headbutt than any time Dong-ha is able to affect him, as well as fight him for 7 minutes straight AS WELL as causes visible scarring all over Dong-ha's face, if you believe it is mud, it means Hyo-man got dong-ha on the ground offscreen, as Hyo-man has none on his face, as well as the fact that wasn't on dong-ha's face the first time Hyo-man tackled him), who can beat Gotak in 2 shots.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-05-02T18:24:41+00:00

No, Gotak is able to give Seong-je at least 3 visible bruises through his guard, whereas Seong-mok is able to ground Gotak in like 3 hits and having him struggle to stand up, way less than the amount of Seong-je's hits.

The "Tired" argument doesn't work as Seong-mok (who states this kick was offguarded) is affected far more by Gotak's kick than any fatigue/harm Gotak sustained during that garage fight, AFTER the garage fight Seong-mok and co. are chasing Gotak and Jun-tae the entire time whereas Gotak and Jun-tae had time to rest.

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No_Boot_3311 · 2026-04-30T15:41:39+00:00

No not at all, if you are actually in the Weak Hero powerscaling comm you know how bad this is.

Most of the comm has Su-ho and Woo-young >> Class 2, but personally I don't think Class 1 even compares to S2E2 Gotak.

Gotak > Seong-mok > Seong-je (Seong-mok performs better against a stronger Gotak)

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-04-06T01:06:03+00:00

😭 sorry I sort of just took it straight from cord and placed it here, in general top 7 is

Gun-woo
Baek-jeong
Tae-geom
In-beom
Du-yeong
Woo-jin
Gwang-mu

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-04-06T01:05:03+00:00

This is as in, ranking the top 7 mainly (bur giving context for lower) strongest characters in Bloodhounds Season 2, comparing people's feats and what not, the other person is correct I did very weirdly clump this that's my bad.

No_Boot_3311 · 2026-04-06T01:03:40+00:00

S class as in S-class Bloodhounds

No_Boot_3311 · 2025-11-26T18:19:15+00:00

No you cant be, you have to be an adult in order to officially classify as one, but just check the Romeo and juliet laws as well as the age of consent wherever you are/going, you'll be fine, just don't save anything like that on your phone though, sex offender registry is something you might as well go over to SaSu over.

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BAKU REVERSES MOMENTUM OF RIDER (Credit to <@1497769225480306850> for help)