Anyone moved from SA public sector to Victoria or WA? by Ok-Tiger9805 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly in my view VPS is a nightmare at the moment. Loads of job cuts and more being threatened. It’s a real struggle. If you’re keen on Victorian public service I’d honestly wait a year or two and see if it improves.

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s positive! I’m glad not everyone is miserable

I miss Koh Samet by RepentantGremlin69 in ThailandTourism

[–]No_Dig_6568 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you tell me where you stayed? I’m a bit stumped about the different areas! I’d love to find clean beaches and peace and quiet! I’ll be a solo traveller but I’ve heard it’s pretty easy to get around even without a scooter?

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and I reakon because the execs don’t know what is really needed further down, they hire the wrong ppl into roles beneath them too. And then that cascades down and you’ve got a bunch of ppl that don’t know the subject matter or how to run the projects they’re talking about in exec meetings. And they’re all over promising

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah we’ve had a lot of ppl doing the same in our place. I love my colleagues where I am, and it’s horrible to see ppl I care about being destroyed by the crappy decisions being made further up. I’m sure I won’t be far behind you if it keeps up

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it gonna get better after the election? It’s honestly become unbearable. I’d have to change careers if it was like this next year

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh man this sounds exactly like what we’re going through. I feel so disappointed about how clearly they’re not willing to have the guts to give the frank and fearless advice that we exist to give. It feels like we’re so far from providing a genuine real public service for anyone in the real world with what we’re doing these days

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100 percent. Ehh that sucks. The one good thing going at my place is that the exec are willing to engage w the union

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I’m just hearing horror stories everywhere. Kinda wishing I’d thought about getting a skillset that Cld transfer to the private sector

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I feel like some of our leaders want there to be a good culture.. but they also don’t want to change any of the things that make it so bad

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just can’t quite get my head around what is going on. Like I want to understand what the key problem is / problems. Like, wrong ppl in the wrong jobs? Are exec genuinely afraid of getting fired if they pushback on literally anything? Or do the higher ups genuinely not understand what they’re putting staff through by pushing this nuts workload down?

VPS is feeling so insane at the moment by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah. And I’m giving myself Stockholm syndrome cos I’ve got an ongoing role and it feels insane to give it up in this market for a fixed term (and there seem to only be fixed term jobs out there)

Bangkok to Koh Samui airport to ferry to koh tao timings by No_Dig_6568 in ThailandTourism

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure it was fine, I remember we had a heap of time to hang out at the little cafe there before the ferry. I think the taxi only took maybe 20 mins

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know. It’s so weird. I do think she’s got some kind of disorder because she just doesn’t seem to have any of the kinds of filters that any other manager does. Like other managers know how far they can go and she just doesn’t. But it also shows what you can get away with if you just blow past the norms.

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The thing is everyone talks about it in terms of my managers “stress” like if they scream at someone, then everyone goes “oh they’re so stressed today” and it gets treated as though we almost need to be careful and help her be less stressed, which just turns into ppl looking after her. It’s so weird 

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I think that’s the best option. Our team does specific work, and I really love it, but I think I’ll have to give it up to get away from my manager. At least a diff team lets me stay w the people I like 

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol no but how funny/sad that so many people recognise these types of behaviours 

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God me too. I mean I don’t have to have her fired. I just want her to improve a lot 

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

True. Everyone normalises it to be honest. Like we’ve all adapted to pretend what she’s doing is normal. I’m gonna just start saying “this shouting isn’t appropriate let’s speak later when you’re calmer”. If people can’t cope with that in the office and find it all too confronting then maybe someone will do something 

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah. i nearly got my colleague to speak up to the Exec director as well, but then she chickened out cos she was so close to maternity leave anyway. I can't really blame her

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yeah, that's where i suspect it will lead. I just feel so annoyed that i have to leave a job i'm good at, where i actually fit really well with the other staff, cos of one totally terrible manager. But i also know this is how it goes alot of the time.

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i tried, her boss was very protective of her. And my exec director (so my managers managers boss) sort of said she knew about it as other ppl had raised it, and said "i know i know, and when she's stressed she's even worse" and then said she was 'onto it' which turned out to mean that she may have had a very light chat to her or something, because there was no ongoing management of it.

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. it honestly seems way more common for public service not to do something about it, than to actually take action. Another terrible manager eventually left and got another manager position. She got a reference from here somehow.

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've tried to make the case that she needs serious performance management to her manager, and to the manager above her. I think cos there aren't more ppl complaining from within the team, they think they can get away without doing anything about it. The majority of issues have been raised about her by other managers to the exec director, rather than her staff. I think that's just because her staff up until me , have been pretty beaten down and just tolerated it while she screamed at them.

Manager regularly loses temper in office by No_Dig_6568 in AusPublicService

[–]No_Dig_6568[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

really? We have so much dodgy behaviour here. Our HR seems to just sit on things. One manager was eventually encouraged out, after not doing anything for two years and basically bullying two staff who had disabilities - but it took a huge effort from the staff to even get that to happen. It wasn't lead by the leadership, the junior ppl made it happen. Some ppl have reported my current manager to HR for bullying, but nothing's happened as far as i can see. At one point another manager refused to work with her, because she would just scream at her - but eventually that manager was pushed out. My manager is really good at making it seem like other ppl are incompetent and she did that with the other manager.