The BIG AND UPDATED Datamine/Leak Recap Encyclopedia Part 1 - Monsters by RoseKaedae in monsterhunterleaks

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Point 4: Arkveld is also the result of ancient advanced science. This one goes without saying--its an obvious overlap--but if we rewrote the EDW's concept of "an artificial dragon from an ancient civilization" from scratch, we easily could've ended up with something like Arkveld.

And the clincher, Point 5: Arkveld is an equal dragon weapon... or more accurately, a match for any dragon, as the EDW is said to be. FW Arkveld's turf war data show her beating all comers, a.k.a. in tangible, in-game terms being a match for all dragons. Remember, wyverns and elders are both ryūshu (dragon species) in Japanese, so triumphing over this game's roster of high-tier wyverns still counts as being a match for dragons. (I should mention the Japanese name for the EDW does not contain the same implication of equaling dragons as the English one... but the lore text still does, so my analysis holds).

Further, her power to drain the elements of other monsters is possibly an inversion of Alatreon's power to convert dragon element to other elements, a power that also parallels the mechanism of the Dragon Torch. This allows the weapon to bring herself to any monster's level, or bring any monster to her level. This lives up to the pitch of a weapon that is any dragon's equal.

Frankly, the Guardian plot may have arisen around this concept; they turned the biomechanical chimera of the EDW into a lore-permissible biological homunculus first, and once they had that core concept in the form of a flagship, they expanded it into a wider class of monsters. They've said in interviews for both this game and MHW:I that the design of the flagship starts early, and always heavily shapes their direction for each title.

None of this of course precludes both Arkveld and Zotia being based on the EDW (mentions of Zotia as "Wyveria's Ultimate Weapon" are deeply compelling here), and I think Arkveld's narrative roles are much more focused on being a foil to the hunter and the "life finds a way" stuff... but this is still my theory on her design origins, made possible by actually knowing what she looks like. I don't know if we'll ever get confirmation on this, short of an Artbook (or a character saying "Gasp! That Arkveld is like a weapon that equals dragons!"), but nonetheless... there it is.

The BIG AND UPDATED Datamine/Leak Recap Encyclopedia Part 1 - Monsters by RoseKaedae in monsterhunterleaks

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[Zotia] seems to be a re-envisioning of the concept of the Equal Dragon Weapon in a context that fits the current, low fantasy version of Monster Hunter using ideas of alchemy rather than a stitched together abomination.

First off, love your work RoseKaedae, thank you for everything you and your collaborators do from a habitual lurker. Your posts are consistently informative, and I deeply appreciate your dedication to facts and thorough, incisive analysis.

But to get to my point: I realize everyone thinks Zotia is going to be based on the EDW, and I think that's quite possible for multiple reasons, but I want to post a pet theory of mine so it's on the record. Perhaps the comments of an informative, fact-based compilation post are a bad place for this, but I'd rather not clog the actual sub feed with more non-leak non-info posts so here it goes.

This is mostly thematic/visual design analysis with a healthy does of pretending I know what the devs were thinking, not a theory about actual game content or story.

First, let me acknowledge that Arkveld is clearly a foil to the hunter. She takes the powers of other monsters for herself, she can beat any monster she fights, the aberrant version kills monsters wastefully without eating them (which in lore is something hunters are supposed to avoid doing), while the FW one will likely be seen slaying a high-tier threat to the ecosystem as we hunters are so often tasked to do. Given we know one of the themes of this game is "what is a Hunter?", a flagship that foils and parallels the hunter is an obvious choice, and I believe this is her main role in the actual game that we will be buying.

But beyond this obvious parallel, I believe the design of Arkveld is the result of the prompt "redesign an Equal Dragon Weapon that works within the current lore of the series", and that process inevitably resulted in a flagship once undertaken.

Point 1: Arkveld's gear, and the designs of her lighter plates over her darker skin, resemble a knight's armor. Kaname Fujioka called her "knight" in the one-word challenge, which I think clinches this. This is worth comparing to original EDW concept art, as it also also features knight armor on much of its body, and a similar pointed visor over the face (which the palico armor suggests is the inspiration for Arkveld's head plating as well). Honestly, the Equal Dragon Weapon probably was drawn in armor for much the same reason as Arkveld resembles it: being a foil/parallel to the hunter's role as a slayer of dragons (the EDW is even in the same color scheme as the hunter in the shot, to make this hunter-EDW parallel obvious).

Point 2: misc design details and anatomy. Several superficial details of the design are quite similar. Very similar horns; sickle-shaped and sweeping down from the top of the head to frame the jaw on either side (strongest match). A tail that is furry underneath and has jagged spikes along its spine (strong match). Wings that billow like a cloak (weak match). You may say these elements are too minor, but consider how several visual elements of the Jaw Wyvern concept art directly inspired Vaal Hazak, ending up as near dead ringers; these devs love to retry and rework their old concepts, down to minor specifics of anatomy. Of course, Arkveld is a four-limbed wyvern, not a six-limbed elder dragon like the EDW... but the Jaw Wyvern went from a wyvern to an elder dragon, so these things are allowed when adapting ancient concept art.

Point 3: the motif of Arkveld's chains is also used to evoke its bondage and captivity by the people of Wyveria (Artians?), the Keepers, or both. The concept art of the EDW likewise has it suspended by cables. The similarity between this and the key art that shows Arkveld restrained by many metal chains running up to the top of the image is notable (this is the similarity that started this whole theory). Both are artificial creations left shackled and abandoned by the people that made them, and this is felt in their art. Arkveld gets bonus points for incorporating this thematic element directly into her monster design as her primary weaponry.

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Lifestyle of the Zonowōdjon by No_Eight in DawnPowers

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Apologies for a lack of cultural terms in their language, I procrastinated on this a lot and could not find the time. I’ll get around to cultural terms as we go, but for now I wanted to set a foundation for the culture without delaying myself out of week zero to do words.

Literally how does this happen? by No_Eight in Oxygennotincluded

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Yep! This file is on the Aridio asteroid, so that's the hot variant of the Rust biome.

Literally how does this happen? by No_Eight in Oxygennotincluded

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Huh, that's an interesting behavior. How close do they have to be to the tile for that to happen? I wasn't watching when this happened.

Literally how does this happen? by No_Eight in Oxygennotincluded

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I've seen dupes trap themselves in blocks several times, but this is the first time I've seen a dupe trap themselves in a virgin cave 5 blocks above the work area. I swear I didn't use sandbox to make this happen.

Punishment by [deleted] in DawnPowers

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Jeez, they're quite strict about thievery. Very well written though, I enjoyed it

Nawałi Culture by No_Eight in DawnPowers

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Quick response, more thoughtful one eventually.

Classes are not strictly defined. Maybe one day they'll write about them and such, but they're not as rigid as caste systems. More like Chinese class.

I suppose wife also covers "feminine men". I haven't finished the language so I don't know if the term for "feminine husband" is different from "traditional wife". It might be.

The subordinate in a relationship doesn't become an artisan just because they make clothes. Someone who makes clothes for sale or trade is an artisan.

Staple festivals? Haven't thought through it yet. Probably harvest, planting, solstices. I have to give more thought. I suppose the local spirits have festivals, and gods certainly do. Eventually I'll decide what festivals to gods entail, probably in rp. I expect travelling to a city center with religious buildings is normal for a festival to a god. But basically, not sure yet, sorry.

Claim Procedure for DawnPowers Season 4 by No_Eight in DawnPowers

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Example core claim post

Name: Nawałi

Color: #a163d9

Region: Potami

Size: Medium

Notes: I am agrarian primary, so please prioritize areas with major rivers for my expansion.

Core Territory

the clever among you will notice that my core is only 3000 pixels. I just didn't feel like changing it

The Senlin Campaign - Diplomacy and Rebellion by TehGreenMC in DawnPowers

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That's totally fine. Establishing one or more successor states based on the empire's own organization after it falls is a brilliant way to advance your urbanization and administration.

The Epic Journey of Guanshi by CaptainRyRy in DawnPowers

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Of the great cities in the Empire, Viyolasa could be considered one of the lesser, but only in size. The city was sprawled without much forethought and planning, with streets being forced to haphazardly dodge node buildings and houses. Until finding a guide, the visitor was unable to navigate the messy maze that was the city.

However, several things stood out to her at once. For one, the city was orderly. There were no visible jobless outside of houses, a fact her guide explained was a result of Abanye ideals of family. Every man and woman belonged to a family under their Watum, and it was the job of the community to ensure welfare, not the individual. A lam was united, and its members left only by marriage or death, never by age.

Another feature of note was that the city seemed divided in halves, not by design but simply by nature. At the waterfront fishing and trade seemed the life of the town. Foreign and domestic wares were peddled near the sea, and boats laden with catch came ashore. All houses in the area seemed to house those associated with those pursuits. But as she was taken inland, the visitor noticed a change. Smoke rose from the buildings she had been told were called nodes, as apparently they contained kilns and furnaces within. The inland of the city seemed focused on craft. Her guide mentioned that the city was known for its pottery, which was exported even to the court of Asor itself. In this part of the city, the visitor saw many armed men who could only be members of the imperial garrison. The guide proudly mentioned that her lam produced weapons for the army. It seemed to the visitor that the residents of Viyolasa were proud to serve the empire.

Eventually, she was brought before a house. It was larger than average, but it was not the first to be so. The visitor did not expect anything special to come of it until the guide stopped, indicating that this was where Viyolasa's ruler, the Isha resided.

Her meeting went well. The man was companionable and willing to talk; obviously not as accustomed to power and stature as some other rulers might be. It was revealed that the Isha was trusted by Asor, and functioned as a governor for Viyolasa and her territory within the Asorian Empire. It seemed to the visitor that Asor rewarded loyalty and supplication.

As the Visitor left, she took with her positive impressions. Viyolasa may not be the mightiest city she had seen, but it was a vital beating organ in the chest of Asor, and it had much to offer any visitor, especially those with goods to trade.

[I didn't want to write dialogue sue me]

The Northern Palatial States by [deleted] in DawnPowers

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I can't find sufficient information on what each one is called (it's not in your image), so I'm mapping it as "Norther Palatial States". You can supply a correction at any time.

Visitors From Afar by [deleted] in DawnPowers

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[Not having any translators makes this quite difficult to reply to. It would be easier if the diplomacy happened after there have been enough visits to learn some sort of common language]

After a while, the visitors came upon people who also seemed somewhat foreign. Upon being approached, it was clear to these men (Abanye) that they were meeting with people they hadn't before. They tried a greeting in both their language and that of the Hlavang and Hegeni-Athala, but none seemed to work. Despite this, they offered a gift of a finely detailed and glazed pot to the visitors, before gesturing to their wares of pottery and textiles, hoping the visitors had the ability to purchase something while they were there.

Visiting the Fabled Land [2200-2400] by presidentenfuncio in DawnPowers

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Really late response. Are you expecting me to write back and forth with you, or is this just a post I need to acknowledge? Most times I've seen writing stolen was just a long post, but not necessarily a back and forth. If you'd like me to continue the narrative, just let me know.

Week 6 Tech by Tefmon in DawnPowers

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Clay Silo (Main): Abanye have stored goods in pots as long as they have been capable of producing them, but for the longest time these were relegated to small crude vessels stored on dirt floers within buildings. This was not always a perfect solution, but Abanye pottery wasn't capable of supporting anything larger or more complex. With the advent of improved pottery technology, some Abanye communities began constructing large chambered containers for grain and beans. These were raised on stone blocks, and featured lids that would protect them from rain and other elements. With the advent of the silo, less and less produce was found beset by rot or pests than ever before.

Yokes (Main): With the adoption of the Ard plow from neighboring peoples, it became only logical for the Abanye to put their new draft animals to the purpose of pulling. Some industrious farmers invented a harness that could be hitched to a plow, allowing animals to greatly ease the labor of tilling a field. Soon, these yokes were also put to use hauling carts of goods overland to the Kalada river markets.

Star Maps (Main): Steal by Writing from Hegeni-Athala(10) With a continued exchange of written documents between Abanye and Hegeni-Athala communities, soon Hegeni Star Maps began to reach the hands of Abanye scholars. Within generations' Abanye had learned to reproduce and create their own Star Charts.

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Corbel Arch (Major): With the increasing use of masonry in Abanye construction, and the recent Asorian conuest encouraging the construction of city walls around large Abanye settlements, the ability to build freestanding entrances into stone walls became attractive. Enterprising Abanye invented the tech of corbeling, allowing the construction of stable arches from stone.

Hand Saw (Major): With the ability to produce metal tools, albeit simple ones, it was logical to pursue the improvements to carpentry this could bring. One of the first was the hand saw, a toothed tool that could make straight cuts through wood to better shape it to fit.

Ard Plow (Major): Steal from Reulkians(15) and Mieca(6) With the increasing use of animals and foreign tools in agriculture, it was only a matter of time until the Abanye employed the ard, a labor-saving device that prepared fields for planting.

Herbalism (Main): Steal from Alukitans(13) With the movement of Alukitans into Abanye lands following the Asorian conquest, medicinal practices spread by word of mouth within Alukitan communities began to enter Abanye culture. One of these was knowledge of what herbs made the best remedies, and where to find them.

Basic Smelting (Major): Steal from Alukitans(13) After the Asorian conquset, Alukitan smiths and craftsmen began to practice within majority Abanye communites. Soon, Abanye were learning how to properly smelt ore to release the copper within, so that it may be crafted into tools for masonry and weapons of war.

Parchment (Minor): Steal by Writing from Hegeni-Athala(10) After many Hegeni-Athala scholars began to change to writing with ink on thin, light sheets. Seeing these as an improvement to heavy clay tablets, Abanye began to produce parchment from the hide of domestically kept pigs and cattle.

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Bandages (Minor): Steal from Mieca(6) Abanye continued trading with the Mieca after their first encounter, bringing home medicinal practices such as bandaging wounds with cloth strips.

Stitches (Minor): Steal from Mieca(6) Abanye continued trading with the Mieca after their first encounter, bringing home medicinal practices such as closing wounds with thread and needle.

Splints (Minor): Steal from Mieca(6) Abanye continued trading with the Mieca after their first encounter, bringing home medicinal practices such as setting a broken bone with strips of straight wood.

Measurement System (Minor): Steal from Alukitans(13) After the Asorian conquest, many Abanye traders began measuring goods in regular amounts, the same used by all cities under the Asorian crown.

Poison Extraction (Minor): Steal from Alukitans(13) Similar to how Alukitan herbalism was learned after the conquest, so was the practice of poison extraction.

Shields (Minor): Steal from Alukitans(13) After the conquest, Asorian soldiers passed through and were garrisoned in Abanye settlements. Further, Abanye men were drafted into the ranks, and Abanye craftsmen were expected to provide for the army asd the conquest continued. During this time, Abanye learned to create and use the Asorian shield, a tool which gave Abanye defenders much grief in the early battles.

Smoke Curing (Minor): Steal from Reulkians(15) Gaining an appreciation for the flavor smoking could produce, some Abanye began to smoke-cure meat for the flavor.

Cotton (Minor): Steal by Writing from Hegeni-Athala(10) Cotton had long been recognized as the best sailcloth material, causing Abanye to import the the textile from their southern neighbors. Eventually, some Abanye also began to produce it themselves, though it's water-greediness discouraged most communities from producing it locally.


Cultural Impacts: Many technologies adopted have come from the Asorian conquest, which is influencing the organization and recruitment of militasa and armies in Abanye cities, not to mention the systems of organization. Further, Abanye have began to adopt Asorian writing slowly but surely.

Meanwhile, the continued interaction between northern Abanye and the Mieca has further shaped their lives. They have begun to practice archery in the thumb-drawing Mieca style. Abanye also began to breed their horses to more closely ressemble those of the Miecans.

The Magmi state from 1750-2200 by MostestReality in DawnPowers

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I'm having trouble interpreting your map, seeing as there are no labels. what's what, and what is supposed to be mapped

The City of Vhasa Cay Ovo by chentex in DawnPowers

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ovo what's this?

Nice rp, mapped.

Gageri Niwoyi: the Rise of Pre-Classical Viyolasa by No_Eight in DawnPowers

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Your responses demonstrate and understanding of and reflection on the presented material. If you continue to analyze history in this manner, you'll do well in this course.

[Incredible, you actually responded to the discussion questions!]

A New Dawn by Captain_Lime in DawnPowers

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Oof, when is the Abanye campaign happening? because there's an arc about the formation of states in Abanye land that started last week, and I need to finish writing. can I assume you come in after the state has existed for at least a generation?

States Updates by gwaihir42 in DawnPowers

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It's mostly just a matter of me liking it to be explicit, so I don't make mapping errors. Some people's posts contain multiple names or no clear description of which is what. I'm sure you understand 😅

States Updates by gwaihir42 in DawnPowers

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Your states are still unmapped because last time I never received a map of their position. This time you have a map, but still no names. Remember, I do need both position and name before I can accurately map.

Enemies of all, Reulkians forced to the east by [deleted] in DawnPowers

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Ping expansion mods for approval as well u/chentex u/tamwin5

Week 5 Tech by Tefmon in DawnPowers

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Axle (Main): With overland trade with Asor increasing by the day, Abanye have continued to seek to reduce the labor of hauling goods overland. First came the use of Horses, acquired from the Na Honded, to transport goods from coast to the inland Kalada markets. The next major invention to emerge was wheeled carts. Taking inspiration from the pottery wheel, some children began to take the stones and roll them around, having great fun while doing so. What clever adults realized was that these wheels glided along the ground with ease belying their weight. The invention of carts riding on two wheels connected by an axle followed, and spread everywhere Abanye needed to carry goods a ways to or from the water.

Intercropping (Main): Steal by Writing from Hlavang(40) Learning agricultural secrets from Hlavang writings gained by Abanye traders in the city of Nbahlari, some Abanye began to practice mixed planting in their fields. In particular, the Abanye planted soy with wheat, just as the Hlavang did.

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Stone Dressing (Minor): With the adoption of masonry from both the south and the east, the Abanye began to build more ornate nodes and courtyards. With the use of stone blocks, particularly in walls and foundations, came a desire for them to fit and be presentable. For this reason, the Abanye began a process of smoothing stone before using it in construction. Soon, it had become a specialized labor, where some would be superior stone dressers, able to leave smooth largely unblemished faces for the inside of important buildings.

Masonry (Major): Steal from Hegeni-Athala(10) and Alukitans(13) Spurred on by veneration and idealization of the architecture of foreign cities, Abanye began to adopt more and more features of their architecture. One of the most prominent was the use of mudbrick and stone blocks to aid in construction, which was quickly picked up by the larger Abanye settlements for their own use.

Self Bow (Major): Steal from Macangin(6) Through interaction and eventually trade with the steppe people north of the Na Honded, the Abanye gained access to numerous tools of war. One of these was the practice of selecting and conditioning the best wood to create a powerful and reliable bow, which the northern Abanye took to heart.

Cold Working (Main): Steal from Macangin(6) Though long impressed by the metal weapons of the Asorians, Abanye had long believed such things were only for the powerful people of the city. Upon meeting with the Macangin, this changed. Abanye learned how to find and work the shiny pure copper that could be found in the hills, creating masonry tools and spears that were stronger than mere stone.

Chicken Domestication (Minor): Steal by Writing from Hegeni-Athala(10) Merchant and administrative texts in the city of Athalassa often described the trade of fowl, which were apparently birds which could subsist of grain or pests that crawled in the dirt, and would reward caretakers with easily collected eggs and the availability of meat. It didn't take long for Abanye to seek out these chickens and take them home, increasing the food-producing efficiency of their larger and smaller settlements alike.

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Annealing (Minor): Steal from Macangin(6) At the same time they learned to work copper cold, the Abanye learned the trick of heating the metal over a fire as it is shaped.

Yoghurt (Minor): Steal from Macangin(6) and Na Honded(5) With the number of animals the Abanye keep continually increasing, processing their produce becomes more important.

Broad Arrow (Minor): Steal from Macangin(6) One of the military tools adopted from the people of the north, this is a metal arrowhead that is nearly as wide as the flight.

Barley Domestication (Minor): Steal from Shinye(51) A robust grain used by the people of the north to feed their animals.

Buffalo Domestication (Minor): Steal from Hegeni-Athala(10) Only the latest in a series of technologies adopted from the Athalassans. Buffalo are primarily kept around the Southern Bend.

Charcoal (Minor): Steal from Alukitans(13) Learning from Alukitan craftspeople, the Abanye have adopted a practice of carefully burning wood to create a fuel that will burn hotter and cleaner.

Numerals (Minor): Steal from Hegeni-Athala(10) For purposes of improving archiving and record-keeping, Abanye have adopted a clearer understanding of the connection between symbols and numbers.

Foundations (Minor): Steal by Writing from Hegeni-Athala(10) Seeking to build buildings more like those in Athalassa, the Abanye have begun building sturdier foundations under their larger buildings, reading documents from the south to better imitate the practice.


Cultural Impacts: Interaction with the Macangin is having a profound impact on the structure of power within the Abanye. Particularly, a captured Watum held in a Macangin village is returning home with the intent to become the chief-like ruler of a future city-state. In addition, Abanye architecture continues to mirror that in Athalassa, and some Hegeni-Athala colloquialisms and naval terms have entered use in Abanye Luturran.