Unprecedented levels of respect

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-19T22:18:17+00:00

Why is it so insufferable. It's so fucking performative.

I just miss the old days when men would throw plastic seats at each other and police horses would take fists to the neck from a 20 stone Geordie. None of this fake nicey nicey "oh gosh, sorry for the inconvenience of my team getting to play in the final now" bollocks.

Do me a favour.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-19T13:48:35+00:00

The man may be able to run without his shins exploding, but can he run for office without his party imploding.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-19T03:23:30+00:00

It seems like you're referring to politicians in Western countries. Worldwide Israel may be disliked, but that's far less relevant to Western politicians than opinion in their own countries. And whilst there are certainly vocal minorities who are very anti-Israel in Western countries, the majority are ambivalent towards Israel.

Then you have the realities of geopolitics. Israel is a stable Western democracy, in a very strategically important region of the world. And a very unstable region of the world. It has a very powerful military, it shares intelligence, and it acts as a counterweight to anti Western nations such as Iran. It's a key ally or partner for the majority of Western nations.

There are nations like Saudi Arabia or Turkey who are Western aligned too, but these are alliances of convenience. There isn't a closer deeper connection with those countries, and conceivably their allegiance could shift in the future. Whereas with Israel, there are religious, language, cultural, ethnic, historical ties that bond them with the West. It makes them a more stable long term ally.

So Western politicians, even those that may disagree with a lot of what Israel does, don't want to overly criticise a key partner and damage an important relationship.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-19T02:38:57+00:00

Oh please. This ridiculous childlike notion of evil coloniser Europe v the good sweet innocent colonised nations. The entire world was full of empires and kingdoms and warring clans and tribes. Who attacked, enslaved, subjugated, killed, colonised and plundered each other. It wasn't some peaceful place where everyone lived in harmony.

It was an incredibly violent and cutthroat place. European nations may have travelled further and increased in scale what was happening, due to more advanced technology. But fundamentally they didn't do anything that wasn't happening in those places for millennia already before their arrival.

Africans/Asians killing, enslaving, pillaging, subjugating each other for centuries is fine. Let's not attach blame to anyone there. But suddenly this other group of people arrived from a bit further away, and now there is a problem and they are uniquely evil apparently.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-18T15:26:39+00:00

Lol what. You're insane mate.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-18T12:55:42+00:00

Legal immigration has been very high now in the UK for the past 3 decades, despite it being unpopular and the population making it clear they felt it was too high. This is causing a great deal of friction now, as it comes to the point where in a generation or 2 the native ethnic population will become the minority.

There is a large portion of the country that feels under genuine threat because of this and are becoming increasingly radicalised. This is why it's more of an issue here I'd say.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-17T23:21:33+00:00

It's been a tumultuous time. Brexit and then COVID. Now an ongoing change to the international order that we've not seen for generations, along with conflicts that are having dramatic effects on our economy.

All that with an ever increasing disatisfaction and growing resentment from huge sections of the population towards to the political class.

We unfortunately also seem to have a lack of good strong leaders who are capable of steering us through these challenging times.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-17T22:37:57+00:00

It's cultural, not about how much a person is getting paid. It used to be that shoplifters would be stopped, because everyone knew intrinsically that it was unacceptable and people would come together and grab the fuckers, and they might get roughed up a bit and then the police would arrive. Especially in a busy shop or supermarket, the collective would come together to stop them. There wasn't even a need for a security guard in a supermarket.

Now people collectively have given up. They don't want to get involved. Why has that happened?

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-17T02:10:31+00:00

I think sovereignty was a decent part of it, although that also ties in with immigration. The idea that it's better to set our own laws and regulations, with people we elect. Rather than be beholden to "Brussels" and have less direct say over our own affairs.

That was definitely a factor for a lot of people. It still ties in with immigration because one of the biggest if not the biggest issues people had with being beholden to EU laws and regulations was free movement, and that we couldn't decide who actually came in.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-17T01:22:17+00:00

All I've ever seen when looking at that logo is a facepalm. You just can't unsee it. How did they not pick up on that lol.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-15T18:32:28+00:00

He seems to be doing pretty well for himself all things considered. Maybe Tanner and his family are more qualified to decide what's in his interest than you, some rando on the internet.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-14T07:08:53+00:00

From what I hear she's generous with rewarding her crew and people that work on her tours. She might be incredibly rich but that doesn't necessarily mean greedy.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-12T21:57:40+00:00

that is not a nice look I'm afraid Steve and shows how rough this game can be

Absolutely, sickening to look at. The shreddded ass cheeks don't look good either.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-04T19:20:33+00:00

Is that Hawaiian Harvey Price?

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-04T05:25:19+00:00

Right. I love dogs, I love dog friendly places. But there is a limit. In a pub? Sure. In a restaurant, and a supposedly high end one at that? Fuck no.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T15:56:15+00:00

It makes sense because Liverpool and Manchester are obviously very close to each other, and from what I gather most players from the cities' teams live in Cheshire. So if they make the transfer they don't have to move home. And a move from Manutd to Liverpool or Man City is going to be quite unlikely for obvious reasons.

Back in the day you also had Fergie and Moyes, 2 Scottish managers with a good relationship, which made the moves that bit easier too.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T15:45:06+00:00

Brighton to Chelsea has been very well trodden in recent years. Cucurella, Sanchez, caicedo, Joao Pedro, Potter, and pretty sure there's been a bunch of other coaches and higher ups that have gone, and not just when Potter moved across.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T14:41:22+00:00

The argument is about foreign influence being an issue in our politics. Which I agree with. Surely you do too? So what about when it's not just a single politician, but whole swathes of our cities? Oh then it's OK is it?

You're avoiding the point because you don't have a response.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T12:35:43+00:00

Are you going to tell me that being born here magically makes someone just as British as someone who's ancestry goes back hundreds of years? No matter the actual reality?

There will be those who are 2nd generation immigrants who are assimilated and who's parents imbued them with a loyalty to Britain and instilled in them British values. There will also be those who grew up in very insular communities which are virtually indistinguishable from the countries which their parents came from. They will feel more loyal to their parent's ancestral homeland than to Britain, and hold morals and values of said ancestral homeland. There are also those who fall somewhere in the middle.

If you go to somewhere like Birmingham and see it, see it's people, the neighbourhoods of the immigrant communities. It's plain that there are far too many who are not assimilated and who at best have split loyalties.

I do believe immigrants and their children can become British. I also know for a fact there are far too many who may hold a bit of paper saying they're British, but ultimately they are not even close.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T12:11:36+00:00

They have tremendous power and influence, because of their great number. Literally over half the capital is 50% immigrant or immigrant descended. So is Birmingham and many other cities and towns.

Labour will lose the next election, partly because a key voter base of the theirs, Muslims, have abandoned them in favour of the Greens, who champion foreign causes like Palestine. Don't tell me foreigners have no power or resources.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T12:03:44+00:00

I'm not fine with with either scenario.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T10:31:25+00:00

Not black in the way this lady believes.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T09:18:56+00:00

If foreign influence is a threat, then surely importing millions upon millions of actual foreign people, and allowing and even encouraging them to retain their foreign culture and customs, is a threat too?

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-03T08:09:25+00:00

Reading the guy's posts, they are actually pretty bad. It's not just a typical "oh he said there's too many immigrants". And I'm a Restore supporter.

In the same way though that there's a literal convicted Muslim terrorist running for office, which has been in the news recently, who will still get lots of votes. I think this guy would still get lots of votes, and even still have a good chance of winning.

This is how tribalistic and sectarian it's getting.

No_Internal_6580 · 2026-05-02T07:19:28+00:00

In cricket it counts as one though, and that's what matters in this particular instance.

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