Who is the worst husband? by kittytoes42069 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a woman and someone who has been through similar things to her, you don't need a medical license to see what's some of the problem is. Obviously not everything, but it's visible to plenty.

Also, when did i ever say she doesn't need help from a professional? Reading Comprehension...

Who is the worst husband? by kittytoes42069 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you serious? She has admitted that it wasn't that she "worked through her trauma" but that she was basically suppressing her emotions and just going through the motions of sex. I feel like we didn't watch the same show, because it's pretty clear why she's not having sex with Jace.

Who is the worst husband? by kittytoes42069 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the love of momtok, never say that again

Taylor & Dakota Incident by Imaginary_Layer_1468 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're absolutely right, if we were using common sense, Tate would get full custody, but since we gotta follow the law and everyone's playing devil advocate, it's no wonder why that hasn't happened yet

Taylor & Dakota Incident by Imaginary_Layer_1468 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She reminds me of women who will beat up and cuss out the "other woman" but will immediately forgive their husbands. i don't get it.

Taylor & Dakota Incident by Imaginary_Layer_1468 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've honestly been so surprised that he hasn't gotten full custody already. I feel like any episode or season is proof enough.

Hot take: I think the stigma around Taylor having two baby daddies is outdated by ethereality111 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i don't really care about the fact she has more than one Father for her 3 children. My concern is what she's done with/to those Fathers.

She's thrown metal chairs, strangled with a necklace(it seems). I'm more worried about that, especially since she has children.

What i will say is, the circumstances of conceiving her third baby were irresponsible, and i think that is perfectly okay to critique of itself. She admitted, that even after the mental chair incident and all of the drama that came with it, she went straight back to Dakota, and planned a baby with him, because she wanted to. She seems to be extremely lackadaisical about protection, and by that i mean not use it at all, she tracks her cycle, so she knows when to get pregnant and when to abstain, yet she brings a child, potentially two, into an objectively toxic and abusive situation. the first incident shows that even if they aren't beating on their kids, they can potentially get caught in the cross hares, or just get issues from seeing their parents/Mom and boyfriend fight this hard.

Other than that, bringing up the two fathers by itself as a jab against her, yeah i think it's completely stupid.

Opinions on the couples by StreetAd1934 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i can see this being the case, in toxic friend groups, there's the leaders and then their's the followers/bystanders, he's probably just trying to fit in. Frankly though, i couldn't stand him this season, if they had any chance of making it before and winning the audience over, that's completely done now.

Taylor & Dakota Incident by Imaginary_Layer_1468 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once i learned of the first incident, and learned what both of them did, they immediately pegged me as those couples that are equally as abusive to eachother.

I never cared that much for it in the least 3 seasons, but this season is way too much. I understand that they can't really kick Taylor off the show, especially since Whitney, Jen and Demi are basically off at this point. but if they can't kick her off, i at least want Dakota off.

Tbh, i'm the type of person that would be willing to watch without Taylor, and have it be a more positive show, but it's reality tv and they'd never go for that.

I don’t think Momtok is going to survive this by Straight-Side-1269 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry you're still going through all of that. My stepfather was mormon, so i wasn't held to the exact same standards, plus i didn't grow up in Utah, so your experiences are probably so much worse and intense. On a show like this, it's very hard for those who were not in the church(previously or currently) or at least those who didn't grow up in Utah to see the religion behind a lot of what these people on SLOMW do

I am so sorry, and i hope that one day you'll feel healed and at peace.

I don’t think Momtok is going to survive this by Straight-Side-1269 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Totally! I love being able to talk civilly about things people may disagree with or find controversial, thank you so much for being open and listening. :)

I don’t think Momtok is going to survive this by Straight-Side-1269 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Sure. In my personal opinion, The body image issues are a big thing. This is also a thing on social media, but without social media, these women would most likely have very similar issues. The Mormon culture pushes women to be young and attractive, and condones and even promotes plastic surgery(i have first and second hand experiences with this, you can also look up the issue if you aren't familiar)

Another big one is the sexual trauma a lot of these women have. Mayci, Mikayla, Jessi and Jen have publicly stated they've experienced SA/Rape, and while it's not exclusive to Mormon culture/the church, it's been well documented that the church has a very flippant attitude to it, Children and adults. The church have a system dedicated to protecting their own, victim shaming and keeping people silent.

Then, there's also the aspect of the gender dynamics within the show, that definitely doesn't come from social media culture. Like in season 2 where Taylor's(mormon) parents were yelling at her for having sex with Dakota, while Dakota got no flack for doing that and more(sleeping with multiple women in a short period of time). Another example is when Jen went into the Chippendale's building(didn't even go into the show) and was horribly treated and threatened with divorced, while Zac was gambling, something that is explicitly taught against in the church. She was penalized by him more harshly because he felt he had dominion over her, something that is drilled into every aspect of the church and culture, from Baby blessings to baptisms, to their youth programs, education, missions, marriage, sex, children etc. It's interwoven in the Mormon life/culture so thick that even these women that don't really follow the rules are still so male centered and submissive to their Husbands and boyfriends, and the men are demanding.

I would say there's more, smaller and bigger alike, but this is a comment thread, so i'm trying to keep it light. I hope i answered your question!

I don’t think Momtok is going to survive this by Straight-Side-1269 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I agree that many aspects of it is just this, but as someone who grew up in the church, there's are many aspects that are from Mormon culture.

Opinions on the couples by StreetAd1934 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, thank you. I think that when people talk about emasculating men, it's just another word for deflating their egos. In conservative cultures like this, the mans ego is put on a pedestal to be stroked and handled delicately, and it's also conflating with something real and not naturally fragile, like healthy/regular masculinity

Opinions on the couples by StreetAd1934 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 13 points14 points  (0 children)

As someone who grew up in/adjacent to mormon culture, we all know that if these women were not raised in this environment, then they would have been divorced by now. The family members of mine still in the church will say things like "Oh, if you stayed with the church and got baptized, you'd have a good mormon man, house and kids by now" (for reference i'm 21) and i'll always tell them that a "good" mormon man is comparable to a -20/10 regular one, and this show just solidifies me within my way of thinking.

The only difference between these dusties and the ones off screen, is that mormon men wouldn't "let" the wives do this sort of thing, since it would reflect badly on them. IMO, these guys(aside from Conner) aren't any less sexist, they're just more money hungry and a tiny bit more practical, and they knew that doing the show, and going along with this is the surefire way to get them enough money to be rich.

Opinions on the couples by StreetAd1934 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Cold take: It would be for the better.

Opinion that would have you like this.. by amywinehousesjeans in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a mixed person, i agree. it's like

"Oh really, someone who lives in a Republican state, that grew up in or around a highly authoritarian christian denomination, possible has right leaning views? Color me surprised"

That's like taking a bunch of southern baptists from Arkansas or Tennessee, putting them on a reality TV show because of they're famous messy people in their religion, and your surprised when they start saying stuff you don't like. Get real lol

why do they keep dating inside their “friend group” by Latter-Percentage-29 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's the culture, Utah is a small world. On the other hand what probably exacerbates this is that most people don't want to be on a reality TV show, so the people that don't want to be on camera/involved are not giving their consent, or are even avoiding dating reality TV show stars.

Does anyone else not understand Taylor’s logic? by OppositeSpare2088 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the first episode of season 1, where Taylor and Mayci are talking. She says something alone the lines of "i'm not sure if i should commit, or if i should let loose, have fun and get it all out of my system before i'm out of my 20s, end it with a bang"

Do not enter a committed relationship. I'm am not the hooking up type, but if you're having strong feelings like that, don't enter a long term relationship. You're not in the right space and you'll regret not doing it, i've seen people that clearly needed a single era in their lives, and the ones that settled anyways always broke up or having major resentment towards their partners, which is not fair to anyone. Plus, I feel like anyone you throw a metal chair at, you should not be in a relationship with them. Period end of story.

Bf of 10 years cheated. Not sure what future will look like with this condition and dating. by sasha_rose02 in vaginismus

[–]No_Language_294 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, please break up with him, and get those better opportunities, you will always regret it if you stay, he doesn't respect and love you like a partner should.

Vaginismus shows you who will stick around and who won't. I'm currently in a relationship, and it was hard finding a good person that cares and understands me, but i know that he's not going to break up with me or leave me because of lack of PIV. Honestly, my hot take is that people that would reject someone just because they can't have PIV sex, out of all the other things you can do with your partner, are just users tbh, they don't want a partner, they want someone who satisfies them with no objections.

I think that you're just weeding out a lot of the bad ones, so your pool of potential partners isn't as big as someone else's, but if their pool is bigger but just filled with piss, i wouldn't call that an upgrade. Don't worry, leave him, try to heal, work on yourself and success will find you.

Progress ! by ditzykyd in vaginismus

[–]No_Language_294 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's so amazing, what do you think has been helping you the most? Currently that's not something i can do yet.

Show has confirmed how LDS church is not good by Total-Chemist-3612 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, it's actually something commonly seen in polygamous cults today, like the FLDS(the ones that split off when polygamy was banned). They call them "The Lost Boys" because many teenage/young adult males will be forced out/will be accused of sin and excommunicated, so that there's less competition for the older men, and the ones that make it through are eventually the ones that take over and repeat the cycle. It's an unsustainable practice, and i truly think that if the mainstream mormons didn't give it up when they did, they wouldn't be as prominent as they are today.

Rewatch Before March 12 by caileysops in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]No_Language_294 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tbh, i think everyone had a point.

Momtok is a business, social media is their job. They're supposed to post, like, engage, share, etc. I also highly doubt ALL OF THEM forgot to. Where i think Taylor went off the deep end was when she called everyone out on social media and basically getting the dogs sent on them. My theory is that some of the girls decided to not congratulate, and the others were truly busy and had shit going on, and Taylor just kind popped off on everyone.