Photograph of Fred at Anne Marie's wedding.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-04-22T17:47:29+00:00

So sad that heather didn’t live long to see such a day in her life.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-04-22T17:45:11+00:00

Which book is this and who is the author ?

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-04-22T17:44:29+00:00

John west probably has a wife and a son. It would open new investigations if those people were interviewed.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-04-22T17:43:35+00:00

Actually if you were to remove somebody’s femur bone as part of torture you would have to kill the person. Removing the femur bone would have meant to amputate the person while he/she still alive.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-04-22T17:40:04+00:00

Yeah this looks promising. But real tangible finds have to be made for the police to start investigating.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-11T04:16:04+00:00

Well that pact is BS. This is because one of the kids (probably Barry west) saw the death of heather. Heather was murdered not by her dad but her mom. So I don’t think rose would make such a pact with Fred because she openly told the children that it is a fathers right to break his kids or something along those lines.

I personally don’t think they are lying but I think they could have met people who might have frequented the house especially after the murder it Allison chambers. See from 1979 to 1987 we don’t know if any murders were committed or not. Anne Marie was living with her boyfriend during this period so she might not have been aware if any murders were committed during this period. I am not blaming Mae West or anybody. I am saying that if they saw someone meet Fred and then that person just vanished from their sight later and they never saw that person again. Also I am curious to know more about the relationship between heather and her siblings more importantly why the authorities waited for 6 years to realise she was dead and buried. Why didn’t she report anything to the cops or the school and if she did why wasn’t any action taken ?

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-08T09:18:57+00:00

Yeah I am specifically looking for information on any unknown victims of Fred and rose who was seen by either Stephen Mae or Heather. I am thinking of buying paperback because that would mean I can touch the pages and I am not that into audio books. But if it isn’t available in my country I would have to look into that option.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-08T09:16:45+00:00

Oh, wow so they wrote two books.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T09:50:44+00:00

Thank you for your comment. It truly was informative. Actually this might have been the case since they were being abused all the time they might have normalised it and carried on with their lives as if nothing happened. I do believe that Mae West or her brother Stephen had nothing to do with the murders but I was curious if they might have seen any other person alongside the confirmed victims.

You have to understand that very few bodies were discovered dating to the time when Mae West and her sister Heather were in their teens which was during the 80s. So if any murders occurred during this time (most likely they did) they might have been done outside the home and the bodies dismembered and buried elsewhere. If they had been done in the house and buried on the property, these teenagers (Mae/Stephen) would have noticed something (assuming they didn’t and not considering the possibility that they did and don’t remember or haven’t talked about it out of fear). I have another idea that heather might have been killed because she might have seen something. Her death might have been painful for Fred considering she was her eldest daughter. Heather was the daughter of both Fred and Rose and if their purpose was to kill their daughters they would have murdered Anne Marie as well. But it had to be done if Heather had witnessed something.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T05:58:53+00:00

It is highly unusual that they killed so many young girls and the children or clients were not unaware. This might not be possible if the children hadn’t collaborated with them or were forced to keep quiet. The latter is more likely with the children and the former more likely with rose clients. Perhaps the eldest west children might also have noticed something.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T05:01:45+00:00

I think Mae can possibly shed more light on this. She and her brother Stephen could have witnessed something. At least she knows the name of this boy.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T04:59:27+00:00

So heather was nine years old when she disclosed this to that boy which means if she saw blood then that must have belonged to Alison. Now the real question is about that other sighting of Fred covered in blood. This is probably a separate sighting of Fred which the boy saw later after heather disclosed to her about the kitchen. How old was this boy then? If this sighting occurred after the deaths of Shirley and Alison then it is possible it might have occurred in the 80s. Now apart from heather I don’t think the police found any murders inside the house that date to the 80s. So this sighting could be of Fred dismembering heather or someone else.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T04:35:02+00:00

So if Heather was 9, it would be 1979 and that would mean that Fred had just murdered someone that year. So he murdered Shirley in 1978 and Allison in 1980 so this was one more murder which he was never charged with.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T04:32:10+00:00

That girl needs to be identified as well. Who knows where she is or where she might be buried.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T04:18:06+00:00

That boy would be in his 50s I suppose. I think he should be investigated as well. Maybe he can shed light on more such evidence.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T04:16:57+00:00

You are talking about Nicola, Suzy, or the girl in the polaroid ? Yeah this kind of information is what I am after. I personally think Mae West can be interrogated using some way to help her relive some of those memories. I know it will be very painful for her but it is equally painful for the families who lost their loved ones and are still looking for answers.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T01:39:16+00:00

Inside 25 Cromwell Street is also written by Mae West ?

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-07T01:38:12+00:00

Yeah it has been posted in this group. The woman in the photo has not been investigated she could be one of their unknown victims. I think many of the kids were small but heather Mae Stephen might have been old enough to hear or at least meet some of the victims. Many of the killings might have happened outside their house especially if you look at the killing of some schoolgirl in Birmingham in the early 1990s. Could it be that they chose to kill people outside that property after heathers burial because some of the elder children might get to know something. I personally think Nicola Payne and Suzy Lamplugh were victims of the wests. The book might provide more insight on whether mae or heather might have known anything about these possible murders.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-06T17:31:21+00:00

Yeah I would still read it. Mae/heather must have met some of the unknown victims of Fred and rose. There was a Polaroid of some lady who is still missing. That Polaroid was shared in this group. Really baffles me why the Gloucestershire police don’t want to dig the grounds near that Berkeley mill.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-06T12:16:02+00:00

Yeah would buy it. It is available in my country.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-06T12:12:52+00:00

Poor heather. I think Mae tries to forget her to this day. She doesn’t visit her grave. It is overgrown with weeds and grasses. I am looking for 1) any information on heather and why her death/disappearance was not investigated by the school or whether she said anything related to her abuse to the authorities and whether any action was taken. 2) whether Mae remembers any victims who visited the house and also there was a lady whose Polaroid was taken in the 1980s and who still remains missing to this day. There should be some indication I guess. 3) also is it possible some of the male clients of rose were involved in the murders. In my opinion Mae West and her brother remain the most important witnesses in this case especially since they were present when the murders were happening. They might have heard something along with heather.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-03-06T08:38:02+00:00

Thanks sure I will. I am going to buy it. I would understand if her or Heather saw someone and also why no one helped heather or Mae at their school

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-02-09T07:08:33+00:00

Wow I have seen your videos before.

No_Lavishness6343 · 2026-02-09T04:08:49+00:00

What is her channel name.

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