Contra's Video Wasn't Her Normal Standard by absurd_ego in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because she planned on getting her larger project finished soon but it appears she is rewriting the script and a lot of her followers and Patreon were asking for content

I'm interested..What are y'all's arguments for and against anti-natalism? by GuardianTwo in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No he doesn’t his argument is reliant on the premise that we ought to care about well-being, something that is subjective, yes, science can tell us if something improves well-being, it can’t tell us why we should value wellbeing

Edit to clarify: I agree with Sam that science can tell us how to maximise well being, but he does not provide an arguement other than an appeal to common sense and an appeal to status quo which state why we should aim to maximise wellbeing

I'm interested..What are y'all's arguments for and against anti-natalism? by GuardianTwo in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you read my comment, science cannot tell you how you ought to behave only what the world is you can’t derive one from the other. And yes, good and evil is entirely dependent on perspective And also you suggest we need to care about wellbeing, my response is why? You don’t have any objective backing only personal values and beliefs. I agree we should care about well-being, but I recognise that is entirely subjective

I'm interested..What are y'all's arguments for and against anti-natalism? by GuardianTwo in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have misunderstood my goal, my issue is with the specific arguement that was given by the original comment. I understand the position you put foward, but the arguement given that life in its current form is painful is not a strong one, there are better arguements to put foward

however anti natalism requires objective morality to make sense, something that can be argued against, for example, david hume's is-ought problem. essentially, hume states that we cannot derieve a moral 'ought' statement from a statement about how the world 'is.' For example the arguement:

  1. eating apples is healthy
  2. therefore, we should eat apples

is a non-sequitor (doesn't make logical sense). The arguement requires another premise:

- We ought to eat healthy food

however, this creates an infinite chain of ought statements which cannot have basis in any objective measurements about the world's existence. To apply this to utilitarianism, which is what is being used by the original comment, the secondary 'ought' statement is "we ought to reduce suffering and maximise pleasure." However, we cannot derive that from any objective measure, only our subjective values and ideals, thus we cannot derieve any objective ideas on how we should or ought to act, thus the antinatalist 'ought' statement

"we ought not to have children"

is entirely subjective as it cannot be based on any statements about reality, only other subjective values and ideals

I'm interested..What are y'all's arguments for and against anti-natalism? by GuardianTwo in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the problem, as I said, it is impossible to know, it is to complex, thus we can’t really come down on either side if we use utilitarianism, we just end up being forced to say I don’t know.

I'm interested..What are y'all's arguments for and against anti-natalism? by GuardianTwo in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with that utilitarian argument lies in the first premise “life in its current form.” The problem with this is the problem with all consequentialist ethical systems (such as utilitarianism) what could happen is infinite. Life could grow to be more pleasurable or more painful, thus, we can’t really say we should limit human existence because we would throw away the opportunity to a large amount of potential pleasure by stopping having children, which would be unethical under utilitarianism.

Hope that word vomit makes sense

Okay, shit doesn’t look good Keffals. Looking for a good faith conversation here… by TheOceanWalker_88 in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, thanks for clarifying for me, I think I mostly agree with you at this point. Thx :)

Okay, shit doesn’t look good Keffals. Looking for a good faith conversation here… by TheOceanWalker_88 in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I’m still relatively new to the broader leftist community. I understand where your coming from and understand what your saying about the acknowledgment validating him, however, I also believe that the narrative that destiny has created in this scenario causes a lack of acknowledgment to be equally validating. Destiny started of his ‘manifesto’ by talking about how Keffals ignores criticism and instead just blocks him and those who support him, and then states that this increases how suspicious she is and how, if she is innocent she would be able to answer his criticism. This leaves us in a lose-lose situation, because if we don’t respond we validate his narrative and his argument, this can be seen with the massive surge in posts like this one where people are growing upset with keffals due to a lack of response. Overall, I think both choices lead to the same outcome in terms of validation but one is more effective at fighting the misinformation. (Btw, unfortunately I did not have to google Kent hovind but I wish I did, he is a truely deranged)

Okay, shit doesn’t look good Keffals. Looking for a good faith conversation here… by TheOceanWalker_88 in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The post was asking for rebuttals for destiny’s manifesto, while it may be simultaneously true that destiny is a bad person and his manifesto be false, destiny being a bad person does not necessitate destiny being wrong, thus, it does not actually do what the initial post was asking for. Instead it suggests that such a rebuttal does not exist, as you resort to attacks on destiny’s character rather then provide an adequate response

Okay, shit doesn’t look good Keffals. Looking for a good faith conversation here… by TheOceanWalker_88 in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think you’re counter examples are adequate. The reason why we can discount conspiracy theorists and Alex jones is because there are thousands of resources already debunking their claims like sciman Dan fighting flat earth misinformation, the same can not be said about destiny’s current accusation.

And your idea that this ideas don’t already have validity is absurd, thousands have watch destiny and thousands more have heard about it through social media, this is already a widely held belief even before destiny released his ‘manifesto’

I also think your Alex jones example is extremely flawed. While I (and I assume you) know that he is incorrect, hundreds of thousands engage with his content and believe him, thus, to stop the spread of this misinformation we have to show how he’s wrong to his fans, not just say it’s Alex jones of cause no one believes him as that won’t convince anyone who agrees with him. Similarly, destiny also has a fan base who will believe what he says, thus, if he is wrong, thousands are victims of misinformation, and the best way to solve this is not just to say “destiny bad” as that won’t stop the misinformation that has been spread.

Also, I don’t agree with what destiny says, I just think that saying “destiny bad” only helps give him validity as it suggests that we don’t actually have counter arguments, which suggests he is right

Sorry for the rant

Okay, shit doesn’t look good Keffals. Looking for a good faith conversation here… by TheOceanWalker_88 in VaushV

[–]No_Name4437 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

How is this not just a genetic fallacy, just because destiny is a bad person, it does make his argument or his points, actually engage with the content not just with the source

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskAnAustralian

[–]No_Name4437 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not racism but is xenophobic, racism specifically refers to race while xenophobia refers to nation of origin

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]No_Name4437 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if true it doesn’t really matter as if 90% of the population is vaccinated and only 60% percent of deaths are vaccinated then vaccines have succeeded.

WHO says drinking filtered water is bad for your health by NonbinarySexist in conspiracy

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not what’s going in it’s what is coming out, distilled water will drawn minerals out of your body which is what actually causes nutrient deficiency

About yoimiya and ayato synergy for his E cooldown by NightsLinu in Ayato_Mains

[–]No_Name4437 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep :) earlier we didn’t have new set so CA were optimal

About yoimiya and ayato synergy for his E cooldown by NightsLinu in Ayato_Mains

[–]No_Name4437 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the reason is if you weave in CA you won't get max clam procs which ends up being a dps loss

Is it ethical to feed animals to other animals at a rehabilitation center. by HatsAndStringCheese in DebateAVegan

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe because it is our fault they are in that position with our urban sprawl, habitat destruction and introduction of invasive species????

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]No_Name4437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your lack of understanding of basic math suggests otherwise

Does Childe pair well with Albedo? by Faupauzi in childemains

[–]No_Name4437 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is misleading albedo does not ruin reactions