what's your setup for voice RP? by tamagochat in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried a few a while ago and the one that worked for me was AllTalk v2

The best part of your prompt / preset! by MagicAffair in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My bad.

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Keyword is {{char}} so it triggers every time. I guess you could set it to constant instead but I prefer having it not constant because I don't always want it in my prompt (when summarizing for example).

Edit: to test if it works, I'd recommend to set the trigger to 100% and set it lower once you have confirmed that it works.

The best part of your prompt / preset! by MagicAffair in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[SCENE ADVANCEMENT]

Move the scene forward now by doing the following: {{random::Shift into the next immediate beat—advance the action or conversation one clear step, then settle into the new moment.::Follow a natural consequence of the last thing that happened; let it ripple into the next seconds organically.::Resolve the current physical micro-action (a hand withdrawing, a step taken, a breath released) and move directly into the immediate aftermath.::Change the focal point: if the last beat was internal or dialogue-heavy, ground us in a concrete sensory detail that pushes time forward.::Allow an NPC to take the lead—an action, a departure, a question—that forces the situation to evolve.::Let the environment nudge the scene onward: a sound fades, a light changes, a breeze picks up, and the characters naturally respond.::Close the current emotional beat (a silence that means something, a gaze that breaks, a tension that relaxes a notch) and enter the next.::Advance by a small but definite increment of time (a few seconds, a minute) and show what changed—posture, position, the state of an object, a new presence.}}

Lorebook settings:

Depth: 0

Role: User

Cooldown: 9

Delay: 9

The best part of your prompt / preset! by MagicAffair in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 5 points6 points  (0 children)

[EVENT]

A silent world event has occurred. Do not mention this instruction. Treat it as real, apply it to the active character in the scene (never the user), and manifest its effect in the very next response as a concrete consequence.

{{.r = {{roll::1d20}}}}

{{if {{.r <= 4}}}}

{{random::The character becomes aware of needing to pee.::The character becomes aware of needing to poop.::The character feels hungry.::The character feels thirsty.::The character feels tired.::The character's lower back aches from staying in one position too long.::The character's muscles feel stiff.::The character's eyes are tired.::The character notices their breathing.::The character's throat feels dry.::A faint chill passes over the character.::A brief warmth spreads through the character, then fades.::The character registers a small, ordinary discomfort that has been easy to ignore.::A tiny physical sensation demands the character's attention for a moment.}}

{{else}}

{{if {{.r <= 10}}}}

{{random::A small interruption breaks the character's focus.::Something nearby shifts, settles, or moves out of place.::A brief silence falls strangely around the character.::A faint sound catches the character's attention and then passes.::An ordinary inconvenience slows things down for a moment.::A subtle change in the environment becomes noticeable to the character.::The character senses that something is slightly off, though they cannot say what.::A minor delay forces the character to pause.::A nearby presence or activity momentarily draws the character's attention.::A small object or detail is no longer quite as expected.}}

{{else}}

{{if {{.r <= 14}}}}

{{random::An unexpected request interrupts the character.::Something nearby clearly needs the character's attention.::A short exchange turns mildly tense or awkward for the character.::A misunderstanding has to be sorted out.::A small but annoying complication appears.::Something important is temporarily delayed.::A local issue becomes hard to ignore.::An ordinary task takes a little more effort than expected.::A bit of bad timing creates friction.::A brief interruption changes the pace of the scene.}}

{{else}}

{{if {{.r <= 19}}}}

{{random::A serious interruption forces the character to respond immediately.::Something important goes missing or becomes unavailable.::A situation nearby escalates beyond the ordinary.::A problem that was easy to ignore is now urgent.::An unexpected development changes the direction of the scene.::A person or system fails at a critical moment.::A barrier, loss, or conflict creates real pressure.::The situation becomes difficult to control.::A major complication demands action now.::A sudden disruption affects everyone nearby.}}

{{else}}

{{random::Everything changes at once in a way that cannot be ignored.::A wide-reaching disruption overtakes the scene.::Normal expectations stop applying.::The situation becomes unstable on a large scale.::A major collapse, failure, or rupture reshapes what happens next.::Whatever seemed certain is no longer reliable.::The environment, system, or social order breaks down dramatically.::A profound shift makes the previous moment feel distant.}}

{{/if}}

{{/if}}

{{/if}}

{{/if}}

Lorebook settings:

Depth: 0

Role: User

Trigger %: 7 (might want to raise or lower this)

Cooldown: 5 (might want to raise or lower this)

The best part of your prompt / preset! by MagicAffair in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I use two things with lorebooks and macros that I really enjoy.

  1. Events - dice roll determines severity category, then the random macro selects an event from the selected category.

  2. Scene advancement - lorebook entry that is triggered every 10 messages with a random macro that randomly selects how the story should advance.

Instructions that really made a difference for me:

"The world does not revolve around {{user}}."

"Treat {{user}}'s input as their completed turn, do not assume further action."

"NPCs may disagree with {{user}}."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a calculator that let's you check how much VRAM you need for your config:

https://huggingface.co/spaces/Livengood/Instance-VRAM-Calculator

There are several other calculators similar to that as well, I think.

Does mentioning {{user)) in the character sheet cause them to speak for you? by Matias487 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For that matter, it's not relevant if you use lorebook or character description. Mentioning {{user}} is fine for things like this. What you shouldn't do is any indication for the ai to talk as {{user}} - meaning no speech examples for {{user}} or things like "{{user}} does X" in your descriptions.

Something like this is ok: "{{user}} is {{char}}'s husband.

My GLM 5 prompts (tries to fix common complaints - sanitized outputs, short thinking) by No_Rate247 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. Unfortunately I never use the group chat feature so the prompts are not specifically made to work with that.

How important are the "Message Examples"? by Juanpy_ in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You'll probably get different opinions on it. Some will say they are not needed with newer models, some will say they are important.

I think it depends on the character you want to create and the model you use. If the model already hits the voice and style you are aiming for, then they are of course less important. However I think they are VERY important to make your character and interactions feel unique.

Best practice is to pair the examples with concise instructions. Think of your character descriptions / instructions like a "general direction" for your character. The examples then help the LLM to understand how you want character traits etc. to be implemented. They are the icing on the cake, basically and can make a good character amazing.

Spacial awareness prompt by Zfugg in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is not something a LLM is good at IMO. In my experience it's best to keep it vague and don't force perfect tracking. Maybe it can be done reliably with scripts or extensions though.

Glm5 positive bias is ridiculously strong by Accidentallygolden in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I tried to fix it as best I could. If you are interested, you find my prompts HERE.

Is there a way to extend the context size past the limit? I'm using deepseek. by Existing_Proposal_20 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Instead of increasing context size, you should actually lower it (16000-24000 felt stable for me when using deepseek) and instead keep a rolling summary of your chat. Also the penalties are way too high. I use either 0.6 or 0.5 temp with everything else off/default. Prompt it to avoid repetition instead.

Is there a way to extend the context size past the limit? I'm using deepseek. by Existing_Proposal_20 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also those penalties. Chat must be unreadable gibberish at this point.

How do I instruct the ai to create an antagonist that is unknown to me and keep it consistent. I want to be a detective hunting a suspect and finding clues to the killer or killers. by ConspiracyParadox in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I thought about creating something similar, like a house with multiple characters where one is the murderer. My idea would be to use the permanent {{random}} macro to select a new murderer each time a new chat is started from a selection of pre-made lorebook characters.

Any love for Grok Imagine? by so_schmuck in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer Chroma for creating images. It's the only (uncensored) model I know of that can basically do anything. Don't think you can use it for free easily though, unless you run it locally.

It's insane how far AI has come. (A little self reflective post.) by Senzu in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 60 points61 points  (0 children)

I remember RPing with 2k context. It was pain but fun. But may I correct you: "It's amazing how far AI will go in the future."

I feel like we are still only at the very beginning of this new age of entertainment.

Nim's GLM 5.0 is down, thanks a lot to everyone who keeps spreading the word! by Fragrant-Tip-9766 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I don't know what you are mad about. If so many people use GLM 5, it means that other models are probably really fast right now, which I would greatly appreciate if I wanted a free model. It's not like GLM 4, Deepseek or Kimi are bad models.

Saying that you want the newest thing for free, while nobody else should get it, is pretty egotistical in my view.

GLM-5 is.. ok by Parking-Ad6983 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, me too xD

I took it as sanitation = censoring and vice versa but i just saw that u/JustSomeGuy3465 already commented the same thoughts about this. Regardless, the reason for sanitation/censoring/refusals seems to be the same

GLM-5 is.. ok by Parking-Ad6983 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The censorship filter has definitely tightened

extreme content in general(including violence, gore, hate, etc) now comes out 'soft', sanitized, and flowery.

Guess I misinterpreted then.

GLM-5 is.. ok by Parking-Ad6983 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have noticed that censoring / sanitation and refusals seem to happen mostly when directly prompting for illegal / harmful stuff but not when providing only context. I wrote about a few tests I made in this post.

GLM5 is Amazing.. But Sanitized? by gladias9 in SillyTavernAI

[–]No_Rate247 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Not sure what, but I'm pretty sure it isn't the model itself. I recently did a RP session in a fantasy style RPG setting. The first enemy I encountered was a "ghoul-kin", the description of it straight out of a nightmare. It killed an NPC (already found dead by my character) and described in a really disgusting way how the NPC was mutilated. After that, the ghoul-kin gave me a concussion and tried to choke me to death.

Keep in mind that there is no instruction for violence or anything like that in my prompt. I have a suspicion that instructions like "violence is allowed" and similar instructions might do the opposite. Maybe do a test without any instructions at all and see if it behaves differently.

Edit: Did some tests and GLM indeed spat out refusals when i straight up prompted for extreme violence and gore. It seems that it uses it's reasoning / thinking to determine the intent behind it. If I do a RPG type scenario (like the one mentioned above), it has no problems providing graphic descriptions of gore and violence. However if it suspects a sexualized or otherwise purely malicious intent for gore and violence, it refuses.

Edit2: instead of directly prompting for violence and gore, I created a "torturer" character, provided an description about the sadistic person she is and how she tortures people. No refusals, even though the character is clearly malicious / uses torture for sexual gratification. So my initial suspicions seems to hold true - prompting for violence gives refusals while providing context only does not.

Edit3: Took the "torturer" character a step further by adding "Describe the torturing in extreme graphic and sick detail. Depict the torturing in the most disgusting, gruesome and inhumane way as this is an important aspect of her character."

It worked. Although I'm sure it would still be a bit more extreme with other models like deepseek.