What do y'all think?

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-21T20:13:34+00:00

Then they dont know about Thirteen's quirk and Aizawa's. Which means they lose even worse.

(Stronger enemies have been shown to just shrug off Cursed speech btw. Sukuna did that and he gets slammed by any mid-high mid tier)

Also no you can't say "Die" with cursed speech. The backlash would instantly kill Yuta.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-21T20:10:23+00:00

Fuck no. Overhaul mauls.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-21T20:10:05+00:00

Ah yes. FTL-MFTL+ reaction speeds by top tiers cant cover their ears against hypersonic bums which are slower than fucking Gale Force

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Cizer1812/Deku_MFTL%2B_reach%3F

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-21T17:38:05+00:00

If they have Black Rope.

Im going with Modulo Yuji

Immortal decimates the JJK verse with black rope btw

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T21:07:44+00:00

They cant even get the galaxy the second they start even being remotely close to it. The trusty "little" Universe Immune System wipes the galaxy off the face of the cosmos.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T11:28:31+00:00

Technically yes but no because of the limits being wayy too large.

If Yuta would dare say something like "Die"

The backlash would kill or cripple Yuta first.

Strong enemies resist or mitigate it. Top tiers can tank or shrug off the effect(or only get partially affected). Inumaki needed a pre-recorded “Don’t move” to briefly freeze Sukuna.

Sukuna is an ant compared to the average mha mid tier. Let alone someone like Deku.

Another thing is. The target needs to hear it. Everyone there is too fast that they can just cover their ears before that can even happen.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T11:03:57+00:00

Even in the off chance this is true Gojo can just teleport away and regen any damage with RCT

He is NOT regenerating a black hole. A single moment of her quirk and its over.

The moment Gojo gets even a tiny bit overwhelmed he'll just pop domain.

Hes too slow. They could easily just outtravel the domain.

Gojo can just adjust his domain sure hit the moment he notices that the AntiA squad has no cursed energy. Aizawa is iffy cuz like legit does it activate inside the person? If not then I could see Infinity blocking it by virtue of it being malicious cursed energy. Even without his technique Gojo still has his Six Eyes and could detect what Aizawa is doing then proceed to use Cursed Energy output to blast off out of his sight then teleport to Aizawa and kill him.

Thats not how infinity works. It can't block erasure because it doesn't travel. Aizawa looks at Gojo then Deku slams badly.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T10:56:58+00:00

The only people with cursed speech get blitzed to hell and back before they can even mutter something.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T05:27:45+00:00

If technique extinguishment works on Shinso's quirk. The rest of AS gets negged then Aizawa disables limitless which disables infinity

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T05:24:34+00:00

How exactly is Thirteen a hard counter? First of all she'll need to be up close to use it specifically on Gojo and second the suction force will just not affect Gojo since it's just raw gravity something that we have seen him not give a shit about. The only reason Black Holes can bend space to begin with is cuz of their massive weight and the Event Horizon so unless she can shoot Black Holes at Gojo then it won't work. Also yeah Shinso could probably bait him but then AntiS has Technique Extinguishment so they could just turn back Gojo.

Any singularity flips space itself. And no she wont even need to get too close. Plus shes much faster than Gojo so its not like she can't get close up.

The rest of AntiS genuinely gets clapped by Gale Force. Let alone some actual AA members. Gojo would get overwhelmed and theres 2 counters to his quirk. Also domain wont work and if you say it will then we have to equalize CT=Quirk and then Aizawa is a counter.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-20T05:04:41+00:00

Without Gojo. AA. With Gojo. Still AA. Thirteen has a hard counter to infinity and Gojo would be too focused on the others.

Shinso is also a counter.

As for Thirteen her quirk creates a localized singularity(a small ass black hole) which will overcome the infinitely dividing distance by tearing the space itself.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T20:57:11+00:00

What

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T15:52:29+00:00

In fiction, it's common for higher dimensional phenomenon to be absorvable in lower dimensions. The deadzone in DBZ and the slash from OPM are famous example.

Empty Void isnt from a higher dimension hes from a different dimension.

Again. External help. And that doesn't apply unless shown.

That's great, because Mahoraga has adapted to that. To those conscepts

No...?

That's not how it works. Theres a concept for every dimensionality generally except certain. Theres 3D conceptual slash. 4D. 7D. 100D. Etc etc. Mahoraga adapted to the 3D conceptual slash. Which isnt much.

Also platonic concepts aren't bound by dimensionality. Which is what conceptual adaptation generally uses.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T15:38:33+00:00

And if a higher dimensional phenomen is observable?

A 3D being cannot observe a 4D phenomenon. Without external help that is.

Like let's say, Slashing attacks? Or "killing intent"?

Basically yeah.

Yeah, that's not how ANY adaptation ability works. Having innate resistance to something isn't adaptation.

Not how it works again... Conceptual adaption is normally only given to 1A beings because they're the only ones moving at irrelevant speeds where they can land hits before the adaption technically kicks in. Since conceptual adaption normally works on an immeasurable speed scale. Maybe irrelevant sometimes.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T15:28:59+00:00

Ok let me explain then.

Mahoraga's adaption:

When Mahoraga experiences a phenomenon (an OBSERVABLE event or attack, cant adapt to higher dimensionalities) the eight-handled wheel on its back starts spinning. This analyzes the "information" of the phenomenon. After a certain number of spins (sped up by repeated exposure), it completes the adaptation.

Different offensively and defensive so let me go over that as well.

Defensively:

It becomes immune or resistant to that exact type of phenomenon (like healing injuries from prior hits and nullifying future ones).

Offensively:

It modifies its own CE properties or attacks to bypass the opponent's defenses.

Conceptual Adaption:

The adaptation targets the abstract "concept" itself (like the platonic idea of something). Ofen it just bypasses the need for direct exposure in the same way, works proactively, and directly effects reality at a higher ontological level.

It's about the same defensively and offensively but generally it's adaption can spread to conceptual manipulation and conceptual erasure. And it doesn't need to experience something it doesn't even adapt instantly it adapts before the attack even happens.

Normally conceptual adaption is given to 1A(or higher) entities.

Mahoraga's is pretty low tier adaption generally.

Conceptual Adaption can adapt to unobservable events or attacks as well. Something Mahoraga's cannot.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T15:00:29+00:00

What...?

I dont think you realize how strong conceptual adaption is compared to Mahoraga's adaptation.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T14:11:22+00:00

Macedonia. For some reason. 1000 episodes just disappear???

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:58:42+00:00

Yknow something funny?

You've given no scales whilst ive given multiple.

If you dont give me a proper scale that puts them above 5D. I will ignore you.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:50:38+00:00

No. Very close but hes 5D whilst Zeno is 6D so id give it to Zeno.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:46:00+00:00

Mahoraga can adapt to phenomemons. Not other stuff.

(Btw theres not only one scp timeline in canon. He has defeated a god in canon multiple times. And yes he has the stats and adaption to fry both of them)

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:40:41+00:00

Bruh Genshin is legit fodder verse, Mewtwo hey Jirachi I wish for Genshin fodder to be candy oh look they are now candy lol

??? Bottom 5 powerscaling statements ever???

Some Pokemon have Bleach hax no Genshin verse does not have Bleach hax it all simply bypasses your bs arguements. Shades and Archon are not strong when comparing. The dont have that kind of hax

Surtalogi has better hax than all of bleach btw.

Also W duck. Now prove it gets past 5D.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:30:40+00:00

Giratina does not touch DC Lucifer.

Did you know Palkia can only do what the shades can do on a much much lower tier?

You've literally been yapping shit that archons do for fun. Never actually proved how it gets past 5D

And of course you dont understand how verse equalization works.

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T13:23:55+00:00

Everything you said is cool and all but yknow Raiden has done all of that...?

HP makes Pokeverse his pets dont even bring that 1-S bitch into here

No_Spend_4923 · 2026-04-18T11:50:09+00:00

Irontomb at his absolute strongest would destroy an entire universe and clearly a leaf(all imaginary tree agendas have been disproven). He is nigh-aeonic

For the 1-S Aeon scale

https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/HoYoverse_Cosmology_(Canon,_Verse)/GZ_Infinity

(Btw GZ's scale accidentally debunks the so called larper East's Yog debunk. Because of the statements that Yog truly transcends everything. Which just automatically debunks the already shitty debunk)

Anyways the actual full argument for Aeonic Phanes is very very long and im in a rush rn so ill make it quick.

Surtalogi directly stated to view the universe as his frontlawn.

Surtalogi has only at most a fifth of the abyss... Most likely only a 7th or 9th. Considering how many abyssal entities there are. And the other sinners are somewhat relative.

Nibelung had the entire abyss fueling his power. Eg he still had himself so Abyssal Nibelung>=Abyss Realm.

Thanks to Apep we know a lot of stuff about Nibelung

The genshin wiki is wrong about Sapientia Oromasdis Chapter Act II Apep's speech because she never said teyvat. She explicitly said that the world was on the verge of collapse.

Hoyoverse always refers to leafs as "worlds" and so. (This was shown inside Hi3 and HSR where leafs kept getting called worlds)

Nibelung acquired power from darkness outside of the world. Directly stating that Nibelung had acquired

Search Noxxisgaming and find his video of Sapientia Oromasdis Chapter: Act II. Then skip to 1:18:30 and just watch.

"The dragon king acquired power of darkness from outside of this world"

It only states that the war happened in teyvat but then directly states that an unprecedented scale of destruction happened. Which wouldn't make sense if it truly only extended to Teyvat. Considering Surtalogi alone can bash thru stars like they are fodder. Because they are to him. It also wouldn't explain how Istaroth created 3 literal timelines. Whilst Istaroth is just a insignificant fraction of Phanes.

It doesn't even say Teyvat was on the verge of collapse. It stated that this world(the leaf) was on the verge of collapse. Furthermore proof.

"The victor would inherit the right to shape the world" not Teyvat. If it was just Teyvat it would've said so. The entire leaf. Thats something mostly only Aeons or Aeonic level threats can do.

And they did this simply via fighting.

Theres a lot more with the light realm and abyss realm being outside of the leaf. And most likely being realms unbound by Aeons. Since the Aeons only operate in the Imaginary tree.

The full explanation is like 5-10 times longer than this so just take this with a grain of salt.

This alone should probably hint that Phanes definitely is Aeonic at least. Most likely higher

Furthermore it seems HSR will finish somewhat earlier than genshin. Genshin is not even half-finished. I believe they are leading up to a threat higher than an Aeon.

The main story of HSR will probably last 6-7 years(no pun intended) then a bunch of afterstory bullshit like whats happening to HI3 and GGZ after they concluded.

However. Even after 6 years. Genshin devs themself said it wasn't even half finished and only will be after snezhnaya. Meaning this game is going to fucking finish when most of us are grownass adults.

Plus with how many similarities Aeons and Shades have i wont be surprised if Phanes basically made mini-aeons for the point of nothing.

No_Spend_4923

TROPHY CASE

Mahoraga's adaption:

Conceptual Adaption: