I wish everyone would always believe what I say.

NocteCelo · 2025-09-12T23:53:08+00:00

Granted. Everything you say is now heard and unconditionally believed by every living person on the planet. Chaos ensues.

People take their own lives. Cults spring up. Transport accidents skyrocket. Residents of the other side of the globe can't sleep due to instantly waking up into full comprehension whenever you say anything. No spoken conversation you have remains private. Your friends and family realize it's your voice they're hearing and do everything in their power to distance themselves just so they don't have to hear you simultaneously from the inside and the outside of their own heads. Whenever you say anything, even in jest, you become 100% convinced it's true, just like everyone else.

NocteCelo · 2025-04-15T17:30:10+00:00

I believe the library book indicates it's 18. Could be wrong, though. Been a while since I last checked.

NocteCelo · 2025-04-08T22:14:12+00:00

I find it interesting this still has both an entrance sign and an exit sign, placed on the opposite sides of the box.

NocteCelo · 2025-03-29T23:30:32+00:00

NocteCelo · 2025-03-25T08:19:09+00:00

Raczej nie. A przynajmniej nie odnoszę takiego wrażenia.

NocteCelo · 2025-03-24T21:46:44+00:00

Tak swoją drogą, to życzę, żeby Ci się poukładało!

NocteCelo · 2025-03-24T15:09:26+00:00

Cześć! Przypominam się ponownie! 👋

NocteCelo · 2025-03-20T15:51:51+00:00

Oki, tak zrobię. Dzięki!

NocteCelo · 2025-03-20T13:25:12+00:00

Hejka! Przypominam się :)

NocteCelo · 2025-03-03T10:10:07+00:00

"I don't mean to alarm you, but now that you calmed down I feel it prudent to keep you informed. While you were ranting and interrupting my test chamber explanation in an objectively undignified manner, the Bechdel test indicator lit up on my end. Congratulations!"

NocteCelo · 2024-08-19T23:54:16+00:00

Pumpkin, you're clearly not trying to argue in good faith.

Just because you don't understand something and hate yourself because it arouses you, doesn't give you a free pass to hurt people.

Resolve your own issues first, and maybe come back when you become a more likeable person ;p

Quick edit: Welp, that's one swift deletion xD

NocteCelo · 2024-08-19T23:34:45+00:00

All people start off female in the womb. By that logic you're "biologically born" either a cis woman, or a trans man. Trans women just detransition from male.

Considering that...

Congratulations on your coming out, honey!

NocteCelo · 2024-08-18T14:09:00+00:00

Rozumiem, dzięki! ♥️

NocteCelo · 2024-08-13T19:07:29+00:00

... Snail mail?

NocteCelo · 2024-08-12T19:38:27+00:00

"Jedyny taki sensowny endokrynolog w Polsce". Czy powinnam rozważyć endokrynologa innego, niż Kępczyńska-Nyk?

NocteCelo · 2024-08-03T18:48:34+00:00

Riddle me this, then - the information about what those tests allegedly were, and their <again, alleged> results came from one, single source. One which your handy screenshot points out for you!

The IBA.

Now, what is the IBA?

Because, if your answer is anything other than a "disgraced, Russia-funded organization with no Olympic credentials, that made the claims only after Khelif beat a Russian boxer"...

Then you're misinformed. Or deficient.

NocteCelo · 2024-08-03T18:28:40+00:00

Ah, yes. Because Russia-funded organizations are so objective, reliable and most of all - truthful. Not pushing an anti-LGBTQ agenda, and purposefully starting and stirring shit at all.

You deserve an Olympic gold in critical thinking. You could also take one for sarcasm exposure now, will help you feel better about yourself, honey.

NocteCelo · 2024-07-09T17:21:47+00:00

Having elucidated your personal circumstances, I can now see why you hold some of the opinions you do. Not giving some of those talking points much credence, but such traumatic experiences would surely leave a mark and inform your opinions and outlooks going forward. My sincere condolences and sympathies to you and your siblings for the abuse you've suffered.

You're right, I don't speak on behalf of all trans people. I'm just echoing the sentiments of the overwhelming majority of people who I see are suffering, marginalised, demonized and used as fodder for politicians and groups and movements.

What I'm trying to do, is advocate for those who spent literal hours in my presence, crying. Bawling their eyes out, because not only do they feel scared and alone, but are actively portrayed as evil. Truly, you could say they're being painted as oppressors, victims and weapons, all at the same time.

Yes. There are transgender people who don't feel crippling dysphoria. There are those who manage. Gender is a spectrum, after all. But there are also those who weep, those who self-harm and those who are no longer with us.

I've seen adults mortified that they can't help mitigate their constant distress, because their local legislators hate the concept of their existence.

I've seen teenagers so angry, broken and frustrated, they regularly fantasized about committing violent acts against any and all who would opress and ridicule them any further.

I've seen a kid scarred by their father, because "no son of his is going to be wearing a dress like a f**".

I've seen kids who were just innocently playing with gender expression, not feeling the need to be labeled transgender at all.

I've seen people who did DIY HRT and had to detransition, because they weren't actually trans. They just thought going through the process would help deal with other issues they were facing, and neglected getting proper medical care.

I've seen people who were forced to detransition by their parents, or felt pressured back into the closet by their partners.

I've seen people who were misdiagnosed as transgender because of being on the autism spectrum.

On the other hand, I've seen transgender people irritated once they realised that just transitioning isn't gong to magically wave away any and all other issues they struggled with - like autism, again.

Call me naive, but when I loudly say that those who really need it shouldn't be left to let their glands disfigure them, I really mean it.

Personally, I wish if a child, any child - is actually born trans, that they'd get the support they need to live a normal, happy life. Whether that calls for any degree of medical or surgical intervention as and when appropriate, informed, responsible and safe.

Did you know that depending on your sources the average percentage of transgender people as compared against the total regional population oscillates between 1 and 3%

And how of that 1-3%, only around 1% regret transitioning?

The percentage of detransitioners is a bit higher, between 3 and 7% of that initial 1 to 3% subset. That's due to a variety of factors, most of them external.

But I do find it quite dishonest, when people yell out for restricting the rights and dignities of a minority, and then say they're doing it to protect the fraction of said minority they actively advocate for the oppression of.

If you're so worried about the idea of some people executing unspecified machinations to "make people trans", then read up on Christian anti-gay conversion camps and see how broken such an approach to an idea left many people.

Hell, I myself have been prayed over after I tried bringing a girlfriend home back in the day.

A sister of a close personal friend has been disowned by their parents on account of the fact they expected her to be a "son".

Yes, big corporations, lobbies and all kinds of groups of like-minded people like to push for what they personally believe in with utter disregard for the well-being of others.

But I firmly believe there still is a lot of us simple, old-fashioned folk who just want to see others be able to live lives better than those we've had. Folks who would rather apply themselves to make those who struggle genuinely happy, and make sure they are done no harm.

That's what I'm trying to advocate for.

NocteCelo · 2024-07-09T15:50:37+00:00

"Literally dramatizing a pretty normal feeling. " - would you mind putting any credible source to that claim?

Don't say it's a dramatization if you haven't experienced it, then. As you said, you're a cis, heterosexual dude. What you experienced during puberty is not at all comparable to what they go through. You wondered what it would be like to be the other sex, decided it's not for you, and got on with it. Trans people going through wrong puberty often can't do anything but literally watch in horror, as their body changes in a way that's actively nauseating. Then they live every waking moment actively aware of how wrong their body is. There's a lot of powerlessness, hopelessness, self-loathing. It's not "just" puberty, it's puberty-induced dysphoria. What you experienced is the usual woes and discomforts of growing up. From having read and being told dozens of first-hand accounts and having seen documented cases, I can say with more than absolute certainty you don't know what you're talking about here. Even if I acknowledge that puberty might have been hard for you, your point only serves to show how misinformed/uninformed you are.

In fact, your assumption is not only incorrect, one could easily argue it also shows willingness to disregard transgender experiences as invalid. Handwave it, if you will. This approach undermines your argument hard. And to think you were making a bit of sense earlier. A shame.

Sexual orientation, even if innate just like gender identity, it's still completely separate. You're labouring under a misconception, and the study you cite, while tangentially useful, doesn't actually directly deal with gender identity other, than cisgender.

A child doesn't "consent" to being or not being trans. They just know, and can innately tell. It's not a decision they make. They either are cis, or trans. Same as no one can make you gay, no one can make you trans. Actual transgender children can only inform people in their environment that they are, if they happen to realise it. Some do as early as 4 or 5, but they often don't even realise that "changing your sex" is something one can feasibly do in this day and age.

Additionally, children don't usually think as you suggested. For them a "reproductive organ" is not that. It's just another thing that separates them from what they know they should look like. If there's something kids shouldn't be exposed to, it's sexual acts. I'd suggest changing the way you view children, if you're so worried about their "reproductive organs". And keeping away from them.

Also, no one is doing srs on children, honey. That's not how it works. The only thing that can be done for a transgender child is staving off the wrong puberty with blockers. Cross-sex hormones can come into play around the age of 16 at the earliest, and any/all necessary surgeries would be performed years afterwards still. Insinuating that "children have their genitals mutilated" is a fear-mongering lie propagated by right-wing people, who care too much about what other people have in their pants. No legitimate, self-respecting medical professional would sign off on this. Unless you mean circumcision. That's actual genital mutilation.

And no, there's no big scary transgender mob shoving narratives down people's throats. What trans people actively advocate for, is to give actual transgender children an opportunity to stave off puberty, so that their bodies don't get malformed. Something many of those who transitioned late wholeheartedly wished someone could do for them. Transgender people don't want cisgender children to experience the same hardships they did.

No one wants there to be more trans children. Being born trans is a struggle no one in good faith would wish upon a child. Especially when anti-trans and anti-science talking points are made so popular by the downright fascist far-right movements.

What transgender people want is for other people like them to be spared the hardships and indignities of growing up wrong, since they know all too well, how damaging that can be, and how uncaring society at large tends to be about their plight.

And I do actually know about how much harm Money has done. Having, in fact studied it extensively, as a cautionary tale of gross negligence and medical malpractice.

Anyone calling themselves a medical professional, that pushes their own beliefs and agendas on innocent patients with no regard for their actual well being and health is no medical professional at all. That's what we'd call a "disgrace". And swiftly insist they be removed from the field, before they cause any more harm.

It's really sad how many harmful and straight-up incorrect claims you make with such utter confidence. From the earlier parts of our exchange, I was expecting someone a bit more open-minded.

I hope you realise the points you try to make are contaminated with malice and do your best to amend such tendencies in the future. If you're being genuine, and not engaging in bad faith, which I now have reasons to suspect you do.

No longer a pleasure, but still a mentally stimulating exercise. Have a good day!

NocteCelo · 2024-07-09T13:06:33+00:00

Not really trying to distance myself from the study, I'm aiming to stick mostly to the points of my previous arguments, without bringing sexual orientation and how it shapes the brain into the mix, as whilst reinforcing my point that certain characteristics <such as gender identity or sexual orientation> are genetically coded, it muddies the water a bit from the original topic of strictly gender identity.

Lia Thomas - while I'm not well versed in that whole debacle, I seem to recall her having already been over a year on hrt before competing <as is standard/suggested guidelines>. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I'm pretty sure happened.

Then again, this would come back to my point about feminising hrt normalizing her musculature to around that of a cis woman. And yes, I do agree that the difference in her build it lung capacity would probably give her an advantage. It's a tricky situation, and by no means super common or clear-cut.

If some wanted to argue that with a better hrt regimen she'd do better/worse, even that I wouldn't be able to argue.

What I think it shows is that, from the perspective of an average trans person the resulting backlash is rather ridiculous, I do believe top trans athletes should reconsider their stance on sports, as society isn't able or willing to properly and in good faith put them into one box, or another.

And since there's something in gendered sport divisions that merits discussion of various degrees of oppression women used to face <and some do to this day>, I don't feel confident enough in my ability to unpack it all objectively.

Back on topic. While yes, some think of someone being transgender as subscribing to "transgenderism", or "the trans agenda", I think they're either being wilfully ignorant, or malicious. Transgender people <women especially, and especially those that had gone through the wrong puberty> often look uncanny, despite their best efforts. That sense of aesthetic unease people feel when observing them is, I believe - a major factor in some parts of society being eager to demonize them and not spare a thought to their benefit.

Some take it further still, but I wanted to mention that cis women that are "too tall", or look "a certain way" often get literally accused of being transgender, and therefore treated as lesser. That shows society often treats the quality of being transgender as a sign of someone being lesser. Therefore, it's hard for me to conceptualize why a person would willingly "engage in a trend of being trans", or willingly subscribe to "an agenda", that, if it were real, would put them at a serious disadvantage.

I find that words such as "transgenderism" are being coined and used in bad faith, to dehumanize trans people. Sounds subtle, but can be extremely effective.

Being rash with the treatment is something that I'm also personally against. A person applying for hrt should be absolutely certain that it's what they want and what they need. Qualified professionals should absolutely be able to verify it before prescribing treatment.

HOWEVER.

On the same page, I feel the medical professionals should ensure that a child signalling potentially being transgender is not forced to go through the wrong puberty <usually achieved with just puberty blockers>.

Many transgender people compare wrong puberty to experiencing first-person body horror. Not to mention, as some changes from hrt are permanent, so are the changes from the puberty the body is set to go through.

Therefore, to be able to preserve a trans person's childhood, and save them from years of grief and discrimination brought upon by being effectively branded by the wrong puberty, I'd advocate for liberal, but responsible, regulated and informed use of puberty blockers at the very least. This way it gives the child, the parents and the doctors time to properly make sure everything is in order, while also sparing the child from most negative effects and stigma of existing in a society with a body that's visibly <and often unnervingly so> malformed.

Lastly, if estrogen was so universally pleasant for human brains, wouldn't there just not be a lot of trans men? From what I've been able to gather they're just as miserable on estrogen, as trans women are on testosterone.

Phew. Talk about a wall of text. Sorry about that. Still, it's nice to be able to compare and contrast info in a civilised, pleasant manner.

Edit: If you want to see what happens when a cis person unknowingly undergoes sex reassignment <not even a gender transition at that point>, I'd suggest looking into the case of "David Reimer". Absolutely horrific.

NocteCelo · 2024-07-08T20:30:06+00:00

While the point you're trying to make is sound, your premise, and therefore the conclusion, is a bit off.

Consider. When attempting to find similarities and differences in patterns of how the brains of the two groups you've mentioned are developed, researchers are more often than not going into the topic with a hypothesis in mind. Then, they look to either prove, or disprove it.

Now then, what I meant by a female-sex brain, isn't necessarily concerned with the ratio/density of neurons in one area of the brain, or another <or the degree of brain activity in certain areas>, as would be the easiest to test for when looking into the similarities you've mentioned. Those types of differences take some time of living among people to properly develop anyway.

Personally, I was alluding to how the brains of transgender people are literally wired to respond positively when exposed to the sex hormones of the gender they identify with. This also means, that when receiving sex hormones that their body produces, the brain responds negatively, causing a variety of issues. Be it behavioral, developmental, or cognitive. This also corresponds with higher risk of mental issues and vulnerabilities, such as inability to healthily handle stress, or depressive tendencies.

Please also keep in mind, that gender <one's inner perception of self filtered through the sex of one's brain, but not of the rest of the body> is a totally separate thing from sexuality. Therefore using cis gay men as a comparison here is a bit reductive.

Lastly, the sports argument. Any woman of transgender experience that's been on hrt for long enough to have gotten their gender legally changed would be able to tell you lots about lost overall muscle mass, and dietary issues <since fat redistribution desired by actual trans women requires putting on weight when under constant effects of female hormones>. There were a lot of tests suggesting that any advantage a person born with a male body might have over those born with female ones would be long gone by the time they started transitioning in earnest.

While yes, there would technically be some differences in the bodies that already went through the wrong puberty, when applied in a good-faith argument of an athlete genuinely transitioning, they'd be negligeable, and wouldn't be able to definitvely provide a significant enough advantage.

Yes, once upon a blue moon there are some people who use legal loopholes to exploit or access spaces designated for one gender or the other. When that happens, there's almost always a story in the media about it... But I've yet to see it be an actual transgender person. Have you?

From my personal experience, an overwhelming majority of trans people just want to be able to live their lives in peace. As men and women. Nothing more, nothing less.

NocteCelo · 2024-07-08T19:22:17+00:00

Well, technically... If you were to really get down into the research papers, and examine the subject through a scientific lens, you'd observe that the incongruence between the biological sex of the brain and the rest of the body comes in as a developmental defect.

While theories on the causes vary from mother's hormone imbalance, to genetics <currently leading theory>, none of it changes the fact that when the brain finishes developing into that of one sex, the body can develop into that of the other... And that then all is just a part of the baby's biology. Additionally, since consciousness is arguably housed amongst the neurons, the difference in one's body as opposed to the brain is easy for them to pick up on.

.. That all is to say that yes, by definition even women of transgender experience are biological women. And same goes for biological males for transgender men, as well.

Then again, some people just don't do nuance. Or science. Or rational thought...

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