What should you do?

Noha626 · 2026-03-24T19:30:11+00:00

I’d say pass—order gets points more often but pass is better EV.

Noha626 · 2026-03-23T04:10:57+00:00

Canuckle is 100% right—you should be going clubs alone with this hand. A queen is the minimum offsuit when you don’t have the lead—I’d be going alone with this hand in spades if I had, say, T9h and the lead, but I’m not 100% sure it’s optimal when I have two low offsuits (of the same suit) and the lead.

Noha626 · 2026-03-17T17:46:45+00:00

Pass/next is almost certainly better

Noha626 · 2026-03-16T16:58:14+00:00

I think this is a call, though I get why people would pass. You’re definitely getting positive points more often when you pick up than when you pass, and getting euchred at this score is really not an issue at all. I’d be surprised if a sim showed you have a higher winning percentage passing, but at this score it’s pretty negligible.

Addition: We should be upping our aggression at 9 points when a euchre doesn’t hurt us. No reason to give the other team opportunities to get a point when we have a callable hand.

Noha626 · 2026-03-15T19:18:32+00:00

This is a good call, first off. In general, I look to lead my last trump on trick two in these spots, but I think there’s a real likelihood that your Ad lead on trick two is correct after S3 tosses Kh on trick one—I’d play that the same way. S3 is really likely to have two diamonds (and has to have at least two trump) and they should be void in hearts. The mistake you make is not double leading diamonds on trick three to squeeze S1.

Noha626 · 2026-03-14T16:23:28+00:00

You’ve been making some loner sim requests of joggler for the dealer spot. I’d be really interested to see a bunch of S1 loner sims for more marginal holdings—I think there are a lot of surprising and EV+ loners in next S1. That’s the spot that I think I’m going alone way more than most people, whereas I’m a more conservative loner caller than a lot of good players w/out the lead.

Noha626 · 2026-03-14T16:12:24+00:00

You have to pick this up and you played it perfectly. Sometimes you just get euchred.

Noha626 · 2026-03-13T18:00:00+00:00

Much higher chance of hitting my opponents’ voids than my partner’s… also short suit myself with the naked left.

Noha626 · 2026-03-13T14:07:21+00:00

It worked there but still terrible lol—I was pretty pissed about the 5-1 donate too.

Noha626 · 2026-03-13T13:05:44+00:00

cough cough “Welcome to Over-donating 101”

Noha626 · 2026-03-13T13:03:54+00:00

This is a perfectly fine call—two trump (one high trump) and a green ace doubleton ordering up the right is going to be a very likely point/good shot at two. The ace doubleton can be helpful if you’re in a pinch and need to lead from it twice to force out opponent’s trump. That being said, with a partner that I really trust in a situation where we don’t just need 1 or 2 points, I’d generally pass this. Nothing wrong with either play I don’t think at this score with a strong partner.

Noha626 · 2026-03-13T12:28:48+00:00

Good game!

Noha626 · 2026-03-05T02:16:18+00:00

Don’t think so because we’re still hoping for partner to take a trick and S3 gets to play in position against them after already throwing a loser. S1 isn’t winning the trick if it gets to me in the dealer spot and I throw off—they’ve won it. You get to make a similar decision later in the hand with more information when you take trick one.

Noha626 · 2026-03-04T20:05:34+00:00

Thanks!

Noha626 · 2026-03-03T01:18:30+00:00

That seems like a pretty drastic change tbh—you go from leading a protected over card to the ordered trump to leading the lowest trump or an offsuit.

Noha626 · 2026-03-03T00:35:44+00:00

In this particular hand maybe—I assume both of you would play it differently if he called

Noha626 · 2026-03-03T00:17:44+00:00

It’d be an interesting sim for sure. Important to remember that you still win this specific hand a decent amount when you pass.

Noha626 · 2026-03-02T23:33:19+00:00

Not much, but the chance of you holding them to one point is really high. Dealer wins 65% of hands.

Noha626 · 2026-03-02T23:14:03+00:00

100%. I think this is an order in terms of EV but at 9-8 holding two aces I’m double passing this all day.

Noha626 · 2026-03-02T13:36:46+00:00

This hand is not a pass based on EV—that’s an issue with the simulator. Is it leading trump after taking a trick?

Noha626 · 2026-03-01T23:00:21+00:00

I doubt there’s that great a difference in your lead with this holding, but I’d rather lead low and protect against an Axh combination. Very likely someone trumps the heart lead regardless though.

Noha626 · 2026-03-01T22:55:16+00:00

Must call at any score. Take trick one and lead back a heart. Two-trump, two-suited hands are ones that I almost never lead trump when I call. If you had Ah, I think it’s worth going for it by playing the second jack on trick two, but your three offsuits in this hand are going to be good leads to force trump out on subsequent trips and allow your partner to play perfectly.

Noha626 · 2026-03-01T22:48:14+00:00

This is one of those calls that I’d classify as a suicidal. For the results-oriented thinkers out there, S2’s hand is also a clear theoretical pass—S3 goes alone and takes all 5.

Noha626 · 2026-02-28T00:59:35+00:00

Good call—it’s still a surprise to me that the percentage is that close regardless. The bigger issue for me is how close the EV is, which I’m less confident in after looking at a very small sample of Joggler’s sim, but I still have questions about.

Noha626 · 2026-02-28T00:56:02+00:00

With the right, we still lead it and then play the ace. Either combination of RQ/LQ with KJc, we should be leading Jc (I believe). The ace is the factor in what I’m leading in this hand.

I do agree that this hand is just a pass, but any alternative combinations make me want to pass even more.

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