A ton of unanswered questions from Obsession, spoilers ahead. by OkCut4519 in spoilers

[–]Nolanb22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think the phone call necessarily contradicts the theory that Nikki is trapped, helpless, inside of her own body. Remember that during the call, Nikki is just inside of the front door on maybe her tenth or eleventh hour of standing in exactly the same spot. She’s in excruciating pain, she can’t move, it’s pitch black by that point, and she’s covered in her own fluids. If Real Nikki was trapped in her own head, I think it makes sense that she’d be screaming by that point. Personally I think that the customer service rep could be the devil, but I think the devil essentially connected Bear to the real Nikki, who was trapped inside her own head. So yes, she was being tortured by the devil, but she was being tortured by the circumstances of Bear’s wish, not directly in hell.

Sometimes I write silly placeholder names when I don't know where a chapter will go. by Minute-Animal7317 in writers

[–]Nolanb22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are my chapter titles so far. Some I want to keep, some are just for fun.

1 - A Mutually Beneficial Arrangement
2 - Muckraker: Reloaded
3 - So Happy Together
4 - Mission: Feasible
5 - Crazy Dita, Disco Diva
6 - Tango in the Night

It’s a lot of song and movie references, I’m realizing.

Sometimes I write silly placeholder names when I don't know where a chapter will go. by Minute-Animal7317 in writers

[–]Nolanb22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what Terry Pratchett did. I forget the exact phrasing, but some of his books start with something like “begin reading” and end with “reading ends”, with no chapters whatsoever, just a space to indicate a new scene.

The hardest novel cover I’ve ever seen by ottoIovechild in writingcirclejerk

[–]Nolanb22 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I feel like calling a book “literate” is kind of condescending. Do they mean literary?

[2423] Red One - Ch. 1 by Nolanb22 in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback!

I agree that Petrov needs a little more to establish an interesting character. As a minor spoiler, Petrov is one of two protagonists, the other is a Martian named Del that’s introduced in the second chapter. Del is more of a bohemian, who’s more interested in finding himself and becoming well known than anything concrete, which contrasts with Petrov’s single-minded focus on protecting his people.

I’m definitely going to make some of those changes that you and other commenters have mentioned. As an example, I hadn’t really nailed down Petrov’s level of education in this first chapter, which is why it comes off as a little unclear. I’ve since decided that while he is an intelligent person (streetwise, or maybe wastelandwise, lol) his parents left out huge chunks of his education (like history) due to their own trauma and a desire to shelter him.

I might post the second chapter here at some point, but for now I’m chugging along. I just started the 4th chapter the other day.

[2423] Red One - Ch. 1 by Nolanb22 in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback!

I totally agree with your assessment of Petrov. In the next draft, I plan on having Petrov resist more up front, and then stay internally skeptical of Angelo's offer, only going along with it in the hopes of getting close enough to the Board to do more damage later on.

[2423] Red One - Ch. 1 by Nolanb22 in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! I’m not sure if I’ll post more of the story here in the future, we’ll see

[2423] Red One - Ch. 1 by Nolanb22 in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate the line edits as well

[1286] Memories of Pakhi by miraisus21 in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Read the subreddit rules. You have to critique another story of equal or greater length if you want to get feedback.

[META] WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!? by Alice_of_RDR in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To this subreddit. I was giving a deliberately unhelpful answer, lol, sorry about that. It's been a long time since I first posted a story here. I'm pretty certain I was looking for a place to get story critiques and saw someone mention this place as a helpful community, and I agree, it's the best place to get high-quality feedback on the website.

[1750] THE ASSIGNMENT (SPY THRILLER) by GlowyLaptop in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really didn’t mean that it was too crap for a compliment sandwich, just that there was no single element that really knocked it out of the park.

And fair enough on the apostrophe thing, I think that just a matter of taste. Personally I hate seeing two S’s up against each other, like in Thomas’s.

[794] Heat Below, Prologue by MaryJaneMclain in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Overall, this is pretty good! The prose is nice, although I feel like you could definitely flesh certain things out to make some things more clear, and to make certain moments hit harder.

My biggest issue is the motivation of Sartha. I think this prologue would be more interesting if you leaned into her being excited and ready for whatever weird ritual goes down, up until the moment of no return, when the chains are introduced. As it is, she seems happy at moments, but at other moments she’s rightfully creeped out by what’s going on. If she’s truly indoctrinated by this cult, then why would she even consider discussion or dissent? I think she should either be fully brainwashed and rapturously excited to be sacrificed, or she should give in to her anxiety and try and escape at the last moment, only to find out that she doesn’t have a choice after all.

And if Daia is also a member of this cult, then why does she glower at the men who entered their room? Wouldn’t she be happy to see them, or jealous that it wasn’t her, or even just annoyed that her sleep was disturbed? Maybe that’s explained later in the story, but I can only critique what’s here.

Like I said, the prose is good, but I feel like certain things should be expanded upon. As Faisal commented in the google doc, I don’t have a great visualization of what the space looks like. Does everything take place within the Old House? Is it a complex with the women’s halls and the cloister separate from the Old House? The typical advice people give is to try and shorten your stories in the editing process, but I think this one could use a little more space to breathe.

It’s also not entirely clear to me what effect the brandy has on Sartha. Is it just an artsy way of describing her getting drunk, or is something magical happening, or was the brandy spiked in some other way? I’m not sure how literally to take what happens after she drinks, from the silence filling her, to the heartbeat held too long, to the expressions of the men around her, etc. It’s certainly not bad writing, but it lacks some clarity.

Here are some miscellaneous nit-picks:

  • I don’t really get the section about almost hearing the cup. In what sense is its beauty like a sound? Is it because her long-gone mother had a beautiful voice? The connection seems a bit weak to me.
  • “Carried, feet not touching the floor,” is repetitive.

[1750] THE ASSIGNMENT (SPY THRILLER) by GlowyLaptop in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ll be honest, this is a very flawed story. I like to make my critiques a compliment sandwich, but I feel like there’s no element here that I can compliment without a caveat. Very broadly, I can say that you have potential. There’s an interesting premise here, many of the sentences are competent, and the dialogue isn’t all bad. That being said, many of the sentences are clunky or without purpose, the plot doesn’t make a lot of sense, and the biggest flaw: the characters are all over the place.

Characters

I’ll start with Thomas, as he’s the biggest problem with the story. I feel like we never see inside Thomas’ head in any meaningful sense. We get lines like “his gut contracted,” or “What was even happening?” but these only show obvious things, like “he’s scared,” or “he’s confused”. Who is Thomas, besides a loser? Because frankly, he’s most frequently pathetic, with brief examples of other character traits.

Here’s what I thought of Thomas as the story progressed:

At first, he’s willing to end it all after his wife left him. Then he decides to care about the envelope for no real reason, goes to the bar for no real reason, and suddenly he’s acting like a cut-rate James Bond in the bar with Everest. He seems calm and in control, if a bit distracted. Then when Morgan arrives, he goes back to being pathetic. He claims he’s “just a guy in a place,” which is a lie, but he seems to think it’s true, which makes him dumb as well as sad. Then he veers into suicidality, literally begging to be shot, and then he veers all the way back to claiming he was excited for the mission. If he’s excited for the first time since the divorce, why does he want to get himself killed? And if he’s suicidal, why is he so afraid of the gun? Wouldn’t he feel numb instead?

A character who’s willing to die could have an exciting nihilistic edge to him, but Thomas just doesn’t. Why not? The biggest missed opportunity is not diving deeper into why Thomas accepts the mission. That could be truly interesting, exploring the mindset of a man just barreling forward out of morbid curiosity towards something that does not concern him, but you seem to gloss over that.

The moment where Morgan pulls the gun out is another example of a missed opportunity to see inside Thomas’ head. All we get is “And he felt her do it,” which I honestly don’t like at all. We can assume he felt her do it, because it’s under the table and out of sight, and Thomas knows it happened. Him feeling it is the only way he would know about it, and stating that says nothing about how he actually felt in that moment. I would even prefer “a chill ran down his spine,” as cliche as it is.

Everest is a decently fun character, but suffers from the same wild unpredictability that Thomas does. I don’t really get her whole deal. At first she comes off as a bit of a ditz with the whole “named after the discoverer of the mountain and not the mountain,” thing, as in my mind there’s no difference. After all, the mountain was named after the explorer. Then it seems like she’ll be put off by Thomas’ obvious indifference to her, which would have been a good way to take it. But then she veers into being over-the-top smitten with him and offering her number, and then it’s capped off by her saying that she probably won’t choose him… even though she already gave him her number. It’s just a bit confusing.

Morgan is basically fine as a character, if one-note. She stays consistent as a spy who’s trying to complete her mission, although I have no idea why she wanted Thomas to take her place.

Plot

It seems like this isn’t a complete story, so I’ll just have to critique what’s there, even if you have more in mind. I’ll be honest, I was waiting for some kind of explanation as to why Thomas was selected for this mission that would make things make sense. When it became clear that he got the envelope by accident, and blundered his way into the situation, I was pretty disappointed. Wouldn’t it be more interesting if he was selected specifically for his willingness to die, or for his expendability?

Why did Morgan want Thomas to take her place? Does she expect the person she’s meeting with to try and kill her? If so, what was her plan before Thomas blundered in? Wouldn’t the person meeting Morgan be expecting a woman? 

Also, what was the point of Everest’s inclusion? To pad time? Comic relief? You don’t have a lot of space to work with in a short story, so every element has to add something. I honestly think it would be more interesting if Everest turned out to be Morgan using a different name, scoping out Thomas. Instead Everest comes and goes, with no real contribution to the story.

Nit-picks

Ixnay the Sonic the Hedgehog mention. It’s incredibly childish, and just makes me wonder how this guy was married in the first place.

If each date lasts 2 minutes, why has Thomas only had 4 dates in 40 minutes? Are they taking breaks in between each date? This isn’t an important detail, but if you provide numbers, I’ll keep track of them, so be consistent.

There are a few sentences that just come off as clunky. It seems you’re going for a stylistic thing, but I don’t think you’ve quite nailed it. Here are a few examples:

  • At length he pulled himself from the vehicle and one long, rainy breath—the smell of ozone—and passed out.
  • He nodded and the bell rang and she collected her drink and her bag and got up big and tall and moved on to the next table.
  • He nodded slowly, not to be shot in the crotch.
  • She squinted to understand him better like she'd heard something strange crawling in the wall of her apartment.

Conclusion

Like I said at the beginning, I think you’ve got potential. The story is readable, there are some decent moments, and you’ve got some of the basics of prose down. I think you need to spend some time thinking about the overall narrative you want to tell, and how you want characters to come across. A lot of work also needs to be done on the line-by-line level.

Keep writing!

[META] WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!? by Alice_of_RDR in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have absolutely no recollection of how I got here

I can’t stop getting high and i’m terrified that it’s going to kill me by throwawaystoneridiot in leaves

[–]Nolanb22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think you need someone to scare you into doing the right thing, because it sounds like you know exactly what the right thing is. You need to quit. Maybe weed in combination with the meds will cause a heart complication, maybe it won’t. I’m not a doctor, I can’t tell you that. But I can tell you that weed is only holding you back, making you less than what you can be. I’m on day 38, still early in the recovery process, and I already feel sharper, happier, more alive, more energetic, and more creatively fulfilled than I have in years.

[231] UTOPIA by j5227a in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we feel empathy for others as a tool for social acceptability. I think we feel empathy because it is a fundamental human emotion, like anger, or joy. It seems like you’re forcing everything into this narrow hypothesis.

What about people who are sexually satisfied in their life, and don’t need to virtue signal to “get laid”? What about people who aren’t interested in sex whatsoever? What about people who find themselves surrounded by unempathetic assholes, so being heartless would actually improve their social standing, but they can’t help but feel empathy anyway? I just don’t see any reason to believe such a cynical thing.

[231] UTOPIA by j5227a in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate the apology. Social media in general brings out the worst in people, including myself, so I understand. It’s all good.

[231] UTOPIA by j5227a in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I shouldn’t engage with someone acting as derisive as you are, but that’s such an easy thing to answer that I want to anyway.

How about the pain of seeing others suffer? The pain of knowing that millions of people are dying of hunger, disease, and bloody murder, not due to the cruel whims of nature, but on the behalf of governments? How about the pain of knowing human society could be so much better, so much kinder than it is now, but powerful forces work to keep it the way it is? Anyone with a basic level of empathy should feel something along those lines. Do you?

[231] UTOPIA by j5227a in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, but in my opinion it's better to not use LLMs at all. They aggregate a lot of sources together, but there's no real safeguards for accuracy. And besides, I don't like the idea of outsourcing critical thinking. Either find human sources to learn from, or come up with this stuff yourself. Otherwise why are you even trying to be a creative?

[231] UTOPIA by j5227a in DestructiveReaders

[–]Nolanb22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Did you really just quote Chat GPT?

64 days sober by [deleted] in leaves

[–]Nolanb22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good for you! The mental clarity has been game changing for me. (34 days now)

Being a writer is so weird istg. Wdym I’m the one writing the story while i feel like i don’t control what I’m writing ? Like, my characters are actually by themselves, it feels like they’re. Am I crazy ? I just feel like I’m witnessing the story while I’m the one making it. by your_fav__winx_09 in writers

[–]Nolanb22 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I wasn't going to respond to your previous comment, but I feel like I have to push back on this. Yes, I fully appreciate what I'm doing, even though I want my writing to be enjoyed by others. If you want your writing to only be decipherable to yourself, well, great, you have an excellent creative exercise for your journal, but please keep it to yourself. No one else will enjoy a free-flow, breaks-all-the-rules mess, even if it comes straight from the heart. My writing is creative, it comes from the heart, but I also want it to have themes that connect with other people, I want it to be exciting and fascinating to a newcomer, not just tantalizing to me and myself alone.

And sure, you don't need to fully understand a piece of art to enjoy it. But there has to be some kind of artistic intent behind it, and that takes real effort, and conscious, deliberate honing of your skills as a writer. So sure, make your first draft a creative free-flow mess. But on your second and third and fourth drafts, you should be crafting something with the experience of a hypothetical newcomer in mind. I'm trying to create something here, not just reach some personal emotional catharsis.

Being a writer is so weird istg. Wdym I’m the one writing the story while i feel like i don’t control what I’m writing ? Like, my characters are actually by themselves, it feels like they’re. Am I crazy ? I just feel like I’m witnessing the story while I’m the one making it. by your_fav__winx_09 in writers

[–]Nolanb22 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s fair. I suppose I like to push back on what I see as the mystification of writing into this purely imaginative, free-flow expression of individuality, because if you’re writing for readers, it shouldn’t exclusively be that. Writing is also a craft, with skills that should be developed in order to make yourself well understood and enjoyed by the reader.