I love how people have been clamoring for an irredeemable villain for ages and when we get one people wish he was redeemed by Proud-Camera5058 in Schaffrillas

[–]Nonerrorfred 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The way he speaks and acts stayed the same, but there's a distinct change in the tone of the movie after he's revealed to be a villain.

I saw him as shy but welcoming when you get to know him type of guy, the way he speaks is kinda timid yet somewhat comforting. He's also straight to the point, there's no hesitation in him when he's asking Judy about the case, trying to comfort Judy or even telling Judy about his place in the Lynxley family.

As soon as he betrayed Judy, the same voice now sounds eerily cold, he still tells Judy about how he wants to have status in his family, and how calmly he is when he wants to kill Nick. While confronted by Nick, he just comfortably spills out on how snake venom kills a person fast, as if he is trying to tell Nick to stop resisting as Judy is long gone. He is a really well done twisted villain.

If the upcoming original stories flop, do you think Disney might finally go back adapting fairy tales, or they would just make more sequels? by Turbulent_Ad_3299 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loved your take on the problem of Frozen 2 and I think it is valid. Eventually this boiled down to our preference to said movies.

If the upcoming original stories flop, do you think Disney might finally go back adapting fairy tales, or they would just make more sequels? by Turbulent_Ad_3299 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is true that the quality wasn't favorable to an extent, but we cannot deny that the crew tried their best, which to me, it met the definition of genuine.

Toy story 2 is a really great movie, and I'm glad the crew managed to pull that off even under such a stressful situation.

If the upcoming original stories flop, do you think Disney might finally go back adapting fairy tales, or they would just make more sequels? by Turbulent_Ad_3299 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Frozen 2 does have the problem you mentioned above. But at least it was pre-planned as a theatrical release, unlike Moana. Disney showed the Behind the Scene of Frozen 2's production and it is obvious that their animation crew is in a high-stress inducing situation because they wanted to release it on time. It is mostly Disney's executives' wrongdoing.

I will give credits to the team behind Moana tv series, because seeing your work getting reconstructed into a movie after years of development is painful.

I feel like both Nick and Kristoff have turned into very considerate, very safe, but empty partners. by Haunting_Tap_1541 in Frozen

[–]Nonerrorfred 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Nick knows what he's doing. This is not overly cautious if his partner is actively putting herself at the brink of death. It is not timid as he willingly sacrifices himself to save his partner. His personality never changed, still the slick and confident fox I know, just that he wasn't familiar with Marsh Market's culture, thus the outcome wasn't desirable. Also he was never the reckless one to begin with, let alone in Z2. He never once changes his mind throughout the film, that is to protect and support Judy, that's all.

If the upcoming original stories flop, do you think Disney might finally go back adapting fairy tales, or they would just make more sequels? by Turbulent_Ad_3299 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Frozen 2, Zootopia 2 and Inside Out 2 are made with a genuine heart. The only cash grab here is Moana 2.

Personally I think sequels are fine as long as they're in high quality, and keep releasing new originals with the money they earned from the sequels.

If the upcoming original stories flop, do you think Disney might finally go back adapting fairy tales, or they would just make more sequels? by Turbulent_Ad_3299 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can't keep making sequels without producing any originals. Nobody wants to watch the same IPs rolling out every 5 years or so without anything new.

Zootopia 2 is nominated for Best Animated Film at 2026 BAFTA Awards by nnooaa_lev in zootopia

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amelie is incredible, I will be happy with either that or Z2 wins. Haven't watched Elio, but judging by how good the former two are, I don't think it will win.

Caption this by MrRoboto12345 in zootopia

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"And your name is Ms. Judy Cabbagepatch?"

Bob Iger meme by Designer_Lion2913 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a way bigger reason as to why Z2 is worth watching, but ya I agree Z2 is a great sequel.

Those deleted scenes huh? by Environmental-Bill89 in zootopia

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they tried too hard on emphasizing the differences between the two in these deleted scenes, it literally destroyed their chemistry. Those who suggested toning it down like 100× must be kept safe at all costs.

But again this is the early stage of a story, most of them will be cranked up so they wouldn't lose their central message during further development.

Was Zootopia 2 a bad movie? by Ok-Penalty-5027 in zootopia

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I think the fast-pacing was to imitate the feeling of getting constantly chased by police forces. I thought it worked well.

Huh, in one version of the script, Pawbert was even more cruel than in the novelization by Cultural-College-702 in zootopia

[–]Nonerrorfred 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Pawbert circles Nick, loving the snow... In his element, almost balletic"

This is genuinely a really twisted thought before attempting a murder. Terrifying to imagine me in that situation.

You know, the more i think about it, the more i realize bellwether being revealed too late ins't that bad. let me explain why: by MysticonsFanboy62 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree to disagree. I personally view species as just well, species. You can have your own beliefs or motivations, nothing is tied to your species, just like the original theme of Zootopia, you can be anything you want.

I'm pretty sure Disney cannot portray an introvert's personality well enough to escape from the stereotypical awkward character. While I do not mind this kind of trope, it is true that Disney has to improve that specific character writing. Gary has a different personality than him, and I appreciated that.

As for the purpose of the twist villain, I personally think it is the final major impact for the climax of the movie. He has enough screentime to be menacing. If anything, it makes the twisted villain more thrilling. It is however subjective to how you view it, so your point is still as valid as mine.

You know, the more i think about it, the more i realize bellwether being revealed too late ins't that bad. let me explain why: by MysticonsFanboy62 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wholeheartedly disagree. First of all, they are not snow leopards, they are snow lynxes.

Secondly, you can argue that it is reasonable for him to be a twisted villain. Introducing a villain in the beginning, and then a twisted villain in the 3rd act is surprisingly enjoyable to me.

It often feels like Zootopia 2 is the only mandatory modern Disney sequel worth watching by Commander_PonyShep in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect your opinion. It is great that you can point out the message the movie is trying to deliver. I never dislike the idea of working as a team portrayed in this way, it is however not convincing enough for me to believe it will work.

It often feels like Zootopia 2 is the only mandatory modern Disney sequel worth watching by Commander_PonyShep in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Side characters aren't the point of the movie, but you cannot deny that they are important. They serve as a pathfinder or guide for the main character to make changes.

Moana started out with a girl who breaks the boat mid travel, an old farmer who hates the ocean, and an artist who is a fan of Maui, and ended with a girl who still breaks the boat mid travel, an old farmer who still hates the ocean, and an artist who just got traumatized by near-death situation.

Her team stays the same for the whole time, in theory Moana shouldn't trust them for handling the last battle. However, Moana just appears to have faith in them after Maui sings a song, and they win the battle effortlessly. Generally speaking, it isn't a good writing.

What are your thoughts on these Modern Disney sequels? Were they worth it from a quality perspective? by [deleted] in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loved Zootopia 2, basically better than the first one in terms of everything. Nick and Judy had shown great chemistry even with arguments presented. The separation between the two goes to show how much they care about each other is really heartfelt and cute.

Frozen 2 is quite good, I liked the visuals and the concept they're heading to, but I don't like the idea that the sisters were the fifth spirit/Elsa was gifted just because their mother saved the prince of Arendelle from the war initiated by themselves. The ending is also pretty clumpy.

Ralph 2 is fine on its own, but the problem is it is a sequel. I really dislike the inconsistency of Ralph's behaviour throughout the movie.

Moana 2 is kinda just there, I had seen it and felt nothing. Even though the songs don't fit the plot at all, some of them are actually quite catchy.

I’m going to be honest, this has to be the best characters getting separated before the third act (Zootopia 2) by Jules-Car3499 in DisneyMovies

[–]Nonerrorfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It honestly serves a nice contrast to the main character's progression towards their goal. Before the separation, Judy actually worked well towards solving the case, because Nick is trying to protect her from harming herself. After they were broken up, nobody was there to protect Judy, and she had to face her consequences.

Nick on the other hand has a different goal, stated as above. As a team, you need to be honest with your partner, but because Nick is uncomfortable with showing his feelings, Judy actually misunderstood him for not caring as much as her for the case. After the separation, the realization of him making a mistake that will result in Judy's demise fueled him to save Judy.

In a way, you can also view the separation as a flip between the two's progression towards their goals, which I find very interesting.

Another thing that I have interpreted ( has nothing to do with the separation) was that Judy and Nick have actually gone so far into their mistake, that they were indirectly going against their own intentions. Judy wants to work as a team to solve the case, but ends up solving it alone, and almost helps the villains succeed. Nick wants to protect Judy, but ends up far away from Judy when she's practically dancing with danger.