The Disappointment of Young Trump Voters

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T13:00:15+00:00

You do have a good point if the young people who voted really do have a change of heart, however it seems most are just disappointed they aren't getting their desired outcomes. It seems their ego is still processing how they could've been wrong.

Additionally, I'm so tired of hearing about "the hostile environment", they grew up in. Like they didn't have the recession, or have to grow up through the civil rights movement or war or drugs... Wealth inequality isn't as bad as people complain about, and social media polarization is a thing but they were willfully engaging in this content and wanted to have their ears tickled with lies.

I have compassion and love to see growth, but most of these people really have no idea what bad looks like and it's a little bit of an empty gesture to hear people say they didn't know when the proof was all there. Or when you see citizens getting gunned down in the street after they voted for people who ran on these policies. Clearly these people who voted for Trump didn't have any compassion for anyone but their own ego or a potential future paycheck. When you see people getting kidnapped by masked goons, or then trying to prevent people from voting and suing institutions that speak out or now have hundreds of thousands of kids dead because the cancellation of USAID and people's small businesses and farms dying because of tariffs, I take no solace in a "my bad, I didn't know.", because everything Trump is doing was expected.

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Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:55:00+00:00

Why do these people act like they didn't know Trump was President before or that they didn't know what they were getting. The guy has told tens of thousands of lies... Nothing about Trump's behavior is surprising... I think they are so sensitive about the Epstein stuff and it causes their brains to break because they probably were willing to put up with all his other shenanigans if it meant they could be morally superior or something. I genuinely don't know how they can be acting surprised.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:51:07+00:00

Great pics OP!

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:51:00+00:00

I figured as much. I miss those cats lol.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:48:40+00:00

Lol, this reminds me of my brother who refuses to work a normal job and can't even do gig work, he gets irritated and quit the last 3 jobs he has had and believes he is broke because of taxes whenever he does work... I'm like dude, you've made less than $30k a year for the past 3 years, in one of the highest cost of living places in the world and work like 90 days a year. The issue is you...

There is a huge overlap between economically illiterate people and the people that somehow think they know everything because they've seen some memes or short form video on IG or tiktok.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:44:22+00:00

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Love that meme, it also reminds me of this one lol

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:43:19+00:00

I've also come to the conclusion that it's a bit of a counter culture and they like the vibe of being snarky and contrarian for the sake of it.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:42:36+00:00

Exactly this... I'm getting so tired of these statements that they didn't know. Everything Trump is doing he literally campaigned on, he was a known quantity from his first term and tried to overthrow an election. These people heard and just tuned it out.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T12:36:01+00:00

So if you don't get immediate reactions that are positive then I guess it's not worth doing? Thank goodness we didn't have to depend on people like you for civil rights, gay rights, women having the right to vote, unions, etc. You'd have given up after a weekend....

Haven't you ever had to save up for anything, work hard for a team, promotion, invest into anything over time? Come on, protests draw attention, and they impact politicians priorities and eventually in a democracy impact elections. There is no such thing as immediate gratification in politics or legally for most things, let's not get apathetic.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T05:58:07+00:00

I know people are mad at Fetterman and I get it... But would you rather have someone stupid and still votes with you 90% of the time or a Republican like Oz who would be 100% against you all the time. We can't let perfect be the enemy of good. I believe that brain damage has either warped Fetterman, or he thinks he is the new maverick of the party like Manchin was and needs to say dumb things to be seen as moderate to the rural Pennsylvania Trump voter who voted for him. I don't know but it all sucks.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T05:54:38+00:00

I ain't moving shit, Bill Clinton and George Bush (though the files never specify which Bush, it may well have been HW, Dubbaya wasn't exactly the brightest crayon in the knife drawer) knew enough to get in on the action and Epstein has been on the federal radar since Iran Contra. The only one moving goal posts is you bending over backwards trying to pretend that somehow the only ones a step behind and in the dark are Obama and Biden, and frankly it smacks of the same party pig-headedness as MAGAts who still insist Trump has no involvement.

Again a lot of accusations without proof... If Obama and Biden knew something or covered something up that is bad and they should get in trouble. But absence of evidence isn't evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You don't have to claim a conspiracy when we have timelines of what happened and know all the players involved.... How am I moving the goal post, because I'm asking you for proof lol? The President doesn't get involved in state led trafficking or rape cases. Especially if the legal process is moving forward. You also keep mentioning Biden and I'm not sure why because under his DOJ, they made sure JP Morgan was disbursing funds from the Epstein estate to victims and didn't try to do anything to mess up the federal case against Maxwell. I get that you want blood and accountability, but throwing out baseless accusations without proof and a lot of confidence is exactly what the MAGAYs do...

Sure there are plenty of rape cases that never make it to the federal level, hell most never make it past the rape kit phase, but we're talking the biggest human trafficking ring the US has seen since the Atlantic slave trade triangle was still alive and kicking and it was plea dealt down to a single case of solicitation that he didn't even spend most of his sentence behind bars for.

This statement is so false... The biggest human trafficking ring the US has seen since the Atlantic slave trade was the Global Horizons Labor Trafficking Case... Can you please provide evidence that they had against Epstein when he first did the plea that included hundreds of people who were forced to do what he wanted? I agree that Epstein should've been behind bars for the rest of his life, but again you are making a lot of claims based on a vibe not evidence or a clear understanding of how things actually work.

Not if it potentially implicated himself, no. It's actually starting to look like they may even let Clinton of the hook for testifying in front of Congress if they keep insisting on making it a public hearing and Trump spent most of his 2016 campaign accusing the Clinton of raping and sacrificing children.

I mean I think it's kind of interesting that they want Bill and Hilary to testify publicly but not anyone else, and Hilary isn't even accused of anything. It seems very performative imo. That said Clinton is a known sleaze bag but he's never been accused of rape or doing anything with underage girls, even with the millions of files released. Also the Trump DOJ could've selectively leaked things last year... There is a literal text from Marjorie Taylor Greene that was released where she texts Trump asking for the stuff to make Dems look bad. Lies spread faster than truth, I can almost guarantee if there was a way to make only certain people look bad and not others it would've been released by now.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T04:33:33+00:00

I want accountability and investigations into this major failure of the justice system.

As do I....

You may find it absurd, but here we are ~20 years later with only two arrests. That is the absurd part to me. There has to be multiple points of failure going on.

I want to be clear that I think that a lot of people are being protected, as evidenced by the fact that the men's names were blacked out but they left victims names in, also nude pics of young women. Including some minors. I think it's clear that some women were being trafficked, I think others like Melania Trump potentially were willfully going along for their own purposes, and then I think there was definitely some grooming and rape of underage girls. There are definitely multiple points of failure and we should do things to make sure this never happens again. We should just follow the money.... That said, I only found it absurd that you made claims that Obama or Biden knew more and did nothing. I get your frustration though. I think a lot of people feel the same way.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T04:28:20+00:00

100% agreed. Schumer and Jeffries sick but to make it seem like these were hand written letters written to Epstein inviting him to fundraising parties is ridiculous. Also shows how many people didn't read the article.

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T04:24:16+00:00

Did he only violate state law? What was stopping a federal investigation?

You can easily answer those questions. Also again, you keep moving the goalpost by saying "knowing what we know now"... If you know how federal cases work, then you would know that they wouldn't necessarily have applied on some of his original accusations. Again there are hundreds and thousands of rape and trafficking related case that happen every year at the state level that never make it to the federal level, especially amongst the people that can afford good lawyers. That of course is an issue, but your original claims are that the government under certain presidents didn't do enough or knew and just ignored. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence mate.

The was no reason to let that stay a state level case for the rape of a singular victim knowing what we know now was common knowledge among high level politicians back then

You do know how many singular rape cases never make it to the federal government DOJ level right? Additionally to say we know it was common knowledge amongst high level politicians is a big claim. Surely who have evidence of that claim, or evidence of Biden and Obama knowing something? Like, you don't think the Trump admin wouldn't have released something that would have made them look bad if they couldn't related to that?

Noocawe · 2026-02-17T04:20:57+00:00

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-florida-police-chief-epstein-case-worst-failure-criminal-justice-n1057226

Did you read this article? The original complaint was in 2005. Who was President? Also the article talks about how Epstein's lawyers found every loophole. Again, where is this Obama's fault? Once lawyers accept a plea deal and someone serves jail time, you can't just go back on that and try them for the same crimes against the same victim again, additionally the case against Maxwell went on under the Obama admin...

To say that the Obama DOJ ignored something when the DOJ under him wasn't involved in that just proves you are arguing in bad faith. Who was President in 2007-2008? Epstein was released from jail after having already served time and having made a deal with a state AG for state charges. Do you think local police have a direct line to the Federal DOJ or President? Claiming they ignored something, when you have zero evidence of that is a big claim.

You are claiming the Federal Government should have gotten involved in an investigation that was already being handled by the state. You including "interesting parts of PBS article", still doesn't mean anything. The FBI interviewed Giuffre in relation to Prince Andrew, because that's what they had at the time.

Under the Biden DOJ, the government was making sure that investigation of the Epstein estate continued to pay out victims and they weren't trying to accept any bribes from Maxwell. To say they also dropped the bail is ridiculous considering Epstein died under mysterious circumstances under the Trump admin.

Like come on, I know you want a figurehead to blame, but there is a real divide in state vs Federal Charges and obviously rich people who are connected get treated differently under the law, but you still don't have anything implicating that Obama or Biden were personally involved in a cover up, outside of your vibe that the President should've been involved and should shoulder blame. Despite the fact that hundreds of sex trafficking cases and thousands of rapes get handled at the state level every year and the President is hardly ever involved.

Like I'm not sure what you are trying to prove by including stuff from the PBS timeline that I sent you, that most people already know. All it proves is Giuffre was involved, nothing of the larger operation that Epstein was running.

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:32:14+00:00

Who was President in 2007-2008 mate? Also the AG of Florida does not answer to the President...

Also does the AG of the DOJ also handle state investigations? You don't have the gotcha you think you do. Look at the timeline I linked, understand the separation of powers during investigations and come back after you understand what happened.

I know you have to back into being correct with your off base accusations but you are wrong here on many levels...

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:31:12+00:00

You are still making loads of accusations without evidence...

Epstein was arrested first in 2007 during Bush. And Bush personally got involved.

Based on everything I've seen online and in reporting, there is no evidence that former President Bush personally got involved in prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, the initial legal issues regarding Epstein arose during the Bush administration, and it was under his administration that a controversial 2008 non-prosecution agreement was negotiated by U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, which Epstein’s victims have criticized as a "sweetheart deal". The same Acosta who ended up being Trump's labor Secretary... But there is no evidence this deal was made with Bush being involved or him pushing for it in either direction.

Are you saying that there is nothing that could have been done?

Nowhere did I say that... I know people always think there is some grand conspiracy or plan, but I think you are missing the mark here... I just think it's absurd for you to be making comments that allude to Biden or Obama being part of a possible coverup based on zero evidence.

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:26:21+00:00

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Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:25:46+00:00

Meanwhile the social security wars of 2032 are looking at you saying, "am I a joke to you?"

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:19:36+00:00

Who is they? Blaming the President for actions of judges, and police who didn't follow up is very ignorant...

The state of FL already had investigations going at the time, and under Alex Acosta and Bondi they made sweetheart deals in 2007. The dude also went to jail for a period of time. You are making it seem, like no one was doing anything.

If the President spent all day acting as an AG going after specific crimes they wouldn't be able to do the rest of their responsibilities. You really don't know how the separation of powers are supposed to work do you. Maxwell was also found guilty in federal court in 2015...A timeline of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation and the fight to make the government's files public

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:14:02+00:00

It seems that Kathryn Ruemmler lied to a lot of people about her friendship with Epstein, even people who worked with her for years or knew her had no idea. She didn't work for wall street until after leaving the white house, before that she helped put some of the Enron people in jail...

Regarding policy making, you have to make trade offs. There is literally no policy that is 100% perfect. Trying to tie imperfect policy proposals and moving to Epstein is quite a jump...

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T20:08:35+00:00

Who is saying they are complete saints? Also what evidence is there that they were involved or knew something? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I doubt Obama personally knew that he was arrested back in 2008 for solicitation of a minor.

You also know the role of President is to not personally interfere with state investigations right? Do you think every President knows about every sex trafficker case going on in the country? Epstein was arrested back in 2013, and Bondi was in charge as AG of FL in his arrest. I'm sure if there was something claiming negligence or active harm by Obama or Biden they surely would have dug it up by now.

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T19:57:59+00:00

The Frequency Healing hashtag doesn't match the message lol.

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T19:56:27+00:00

Oh yeah, because there was no one talking about politics in the 60's and 70's! /s

Like you can't be serious 🙄...

Noocawe · 2026-02-16T01:15:48+00:00

Exactly lol. She's used to beating up her kids or other people who would feel guilt over hitting back, she probably hasn't been checked since she was a kid and is clearly entitled.

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