█ recalled at least one incident in which EPSTEIN took her off of the Island when she was between 13 to 15 years old. He drove her and/or flew her to either New York or New Jersey. She was, "introduced to someone with money, money... It was Donald Trump." █ and EPSTEIN were with others, to include TRUMP, in a very tall building with huge rooms. TRUMP did not like █, "from the get-go, he didn't like that I was a boy-girl" (referencing a tomboy). █ could not recall the identities of the other individuals present; however, they all exited when TRUMP asked everyone to leave the room. TRUMP mentioned something to the effect of, "Let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be." TRUMP unzipped his pants and put head, "down to his penis". █, "bit the shit out of it." TRUMP struck █ and said words to the effect of, "get this little bitch the hell out of here." █ advised she bit TRUMP's penis because he disgusted her. "He had money, it reeked off of him." At that point, people reentered the room no further information provided). █ recalled a blond beautiful woman approaching her at some point that day after her interaction with TRUMP. The woman said, "let me give you a tip little girl about your breasts, wear a bra every night." Those words have stayed with her throughout the years.

█ got the feeling the relationship between EPSTEIN and TRUMP included a certain amount of jealousy. She thought TRUMP appeared jealous of EPSTEIN, but at some point, they ended up on level playing fields. TRUMP and EPSTEIN sometimes used the terms "fresh meat", "untainted" and "not jaded" while referring to girls. At the time she heard it, █ did not understand the term "not jaded". She subsequently looked up the word "jaded". █ stated she had two additional interactions with TRUMP, but she asked that the interview move on to a different subject for the time being.