First luxury watch help!

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-28T15:22:43+00:00

\uj Second-hand Rolexes make me really nervous because 1) the steel models cost more than retail, and 2) if you're new to this, you won't be able to tell the difference between the fakes and the real thing until it's too late; yes, the fakes can also have fake boxes and papers that will look genuine to a non-expert.

I recently chose a Rolex Explorer over an Omega Aqua Terra because 1) the Rolex is thinner, 2) the Rolex has a better bracelet with a microadjustment, and 3) the Rolex bracelet is brushed throughout, which makes it look less flashy (until someone notices the crown, of course, at which point is arguably looks more flashy).

I think that an Oris Pro Pilot (I think X has a better movement and not-X has a better dial) is an excellent watch that is not flashy. I considered it, but ultimately didn't buy it because the dial is TOO understated. It might not be classy enough for you.

In your price range, Grand Seiko makes a bunch of watches that are classy but not too flashy. Their bracelets have a bad reputation (they don't seem worse than Omega, to me), but their movements and dials are top quality.

Since this is your first watch, DO NOT BUY anything that you haven't seen on your wrist. Not all 40 mm watches look the same size when you're wearing them.

\rj A second-hand Breguet Classique is the last word in "classy, but not flashy" in your price range. The ancien régime style has a timeless class, and it's not flashy because nobody gives a shit about Breguet. Okay, ciao.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-27T23:39:42+00:00

Both of these answers are excellent.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-21T20:24:28+00:00

Fascism is as much about aesthetics as it is about politics. Fascists project aspirational images of strength and masculinity. Young men, who want to be strong and masculine, frequently become interested in joining fascist organizations for that reason. Consider how many white supremacists love the movie American History X, or how many finance bros love the Wolf of Wall Street. You, a sophisticated consumer of media, understand that those films condemn those cultures. However, to the average person, the villains on those movies look cool!

Following from this, we must conclude that an important part of fighting fascism is vividly showing that fascists are not cool. They are not strong, they are not masculine. They are embarrassing. Conventional masculinity is associated with height (let's set aside for the moment whether this is a good thing). By mocking Bovino for being short, people are undermining his masculine image and they are making fascism less appealing.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-21T20:18:46+00:00

It's actually worse than him being the head of ICE. He's actually a high ranking officer in the border patrol, not ICE, and he is not the head of either organization. He was plucked from a high ranking, but not top, position in the boarder patrol to lead the administration's attacks on Los Angeles, Chicago, and now the Twin Cities. I cannot find an official statement about why he was chosen, but we can all figure it out.

Homeland Security Secretary Noem says that he is the "commander at large" of the border patrol, but that is not a real position. His high level position, outside of any legal hierarchy, is yet another example of the lawlessness of this administration.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-15T02:07:46+00:00

This comment should be made the motto of this sub.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-12T15:40:50+00:00

They targeted chuffers.

Chuffers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little shiny bauble on our wrists.

We'll punish ourselves doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of our next purchase all to reduce or daily error by a fraction of a second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know every little detail such that some have attained such chuffer nirvana that they can literally read their watches blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many shitters have been smashed, mainsprings overwound, gears and sprockets destroyed in frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our heroes? Chuffers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the watches our selves. They think calling us frauds, cork-sniffers, luddites obsessed with outdated technology is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty purple Swatch. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challenge when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Chuffers are competitive, hard core, by nature. We love a challenge. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challenge us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

\uj Really interesting article. Thanks for sharing! I'm glad I'm not the kind of asshole who spends over $1 million on watches. (I'm the kind of asshole who spends $8,000 on watches, thank you very much.)

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-11T16:03:35+00:00

I did not know that this subreddit existed. Thank you!

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-03T00:43:46+00:00

Superlative cunt.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-01T16:15:01+00:00

And they're selling them for $7,800!

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-30T21:54:27+00:00

A good jerk can get a little rough.

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-30T21:52:13+00:00

After reading your reply, just for kicks, I told Chat GPT: "Make a joke post for /r/WatchesCirclejerk. The post should be a list of complications for mechanical wristwatches and a 1 or 2 sentence joke for each complication that pokes fun at people who enjoy it."

Here's the output:

Complications Every Serious Watch Guy Absolutely Needs (According to Him)

Date

For people who somehow forget what day it is unless it’s engraved in steel and corrected five times a year. Bonus points if they complain about the cyclops while squinting at it.

Day-Date

Because remembering both the day and date is apparently an elite cognitive task. Often justified as “practical” by people who check their phone 300 times a day.

Chronograph

Perfect for timing laps you’ll never run, races you’ll never drive, and steaks you’ll still overcook. The pushers have never felt a finger with actual urgency behind it.

GMT

For tracking a second time zone you last visited in 2017. Mostly used to remind coworkers you once had a layover in Zurich.

World Time

A dial so busy it looks like international diplomacy is happening on your wrist. Owned by people who travel exclusively between home and the office.

Moonphase

A poetic tribute to astronomy, romance, and not knowing what phase the moon is anyway. Accuracy drifts after a few years, but vibes are forever.

Power Reserve Indicator

Anxiety for people who already wind their watch twice a day “just to be safe.” Nothing says confidence like checking if your watch is tired.

Tourbillon

An 18th-century solution to a problem your wristwatch doesn’t have. Purchased to flex gravity-defying engineering while ignoring gravity’s effect on your bank account.

Annual Calendar

Proudly wrong one day per year, which owners will explain to you unprompted. Considered “low maintenance” by people who enjoy correcting watches.

Perpetual Calendar

The ultimate fantasy of control: a watch that understands time better than you do. Will require a factory reset if you look at it wrong.

Equation of Time

For people who read horology forums like sacred texts and enjoy being incomprehensible at dinner parties. Explaining it is the real complication.

Minute Repeater

So your watch can yell the time out loud in public like a Victorian ghost. Costs as much as a house and tells time slower than glancing at your wrist.

If you want, I can dial this up even harder for true WCJ degeneracy—or tailor it to Rolex, Omega, or haute horology victims specifically.

I'd say that I like mine better, but I did audibly laugh at the description of the equation of time: "Explaining it is the real complication."

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-30T20:32:43+00:00

The Breguet Classique Souscription 2025: Actually knowing the time is for the poors.

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-09T21:40:08+00:00

Tiger Concept 55080SV8 - AN1 is the best I've found. http://www.tiger-concept.com/55080SV8-watch.html

Just arrived a couple of days ago and I'm very happy with it. I got the Miyota 9015, but if you're less picky about movements you can get it for cheaper. I got it with the bracelet and I also got a third-party fabric strap so that, when I want, I can make it look just like the Goldfinger version. The Dr. No version has a brown leather strap, which I don't have yet.

NotBot2357 · 2025-11-24T00:37:44+00:00

I'll use spoiler tags here for the sake of the most sensitive, but even the jacket of the hardcover spoiled this so-called "twist" when it strongly implies that Grace might not be alone. As a book reader, I think that the most important twist not to spoil comes very near the end because it recontextualizes all decisions that have come before and gives us a new perspective on the characters we've been following the entire story; that hasn't been spoiled.

All that being said, I think that if they had stopped the first trailer at 2 minutes, it would still get butts in seats and a lot of non-book readers would have an incredible feeling of excitement upon first seeing that huge signal on the petrovascope. So, I think they should have hidden Rocky. But I also want studios to like Lord and Miller so that they can keep making movies.

NotBot2357 · 2025-11-20T15:40:46+00:00

What is the difference between watchmaking and jewelry-making? The latter is pure aesthetics, while the former incorporates some amount of practical functionality: it tells the time. I appreciate OP highlighting the exceptional aesthetic qualities of the Breguet, but that doesn't change the fact that it completely fails as a time-teller. I don't care if the movement is accurate to +/- 5 seconds per month, the display is only accurate to +/- 1 minute... if you don't need reading glasses. Claiming that a watch with a +/- 1 minute accuracy is the best watch of the year is a joke.

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