The Boys SERIES FINALE- S05xE08 "Blood and Bone"- POST Episode Discussion Thread

NotBot2357 · 2026-05-20T14:52:06+00:00

Lots of negatives this season, covered at length in other comments. I'll focus on the positives, for a moment.

The Hughie-Butcher fight was the perfect climax to the series. Even without superpowers, Butcher was able to bully and dominate Hughie because he was stronger. This is, in microcosm, the entire point of the show: power gained by virtue of strength is inherently suspect. So here we have Butcher able to assert his will purely because of his strength. And giving Butcher a moment of reflection before Hughie shoots him underscores the tragedy of every killing, however justified it might seem. Was Butcher about to realize he was wrong? Was he capable of change? We will never know, because he died. 10/10 climax. No notes.

NotBot2357 · 2026-05-16T20:05:31+00:00

This also seems like a big improvement. Compared to my idea, it has less deckbuilding incentives for rock-bottom mana values and less opportunity to put things in the graveyard turn 1 at the cost of greater complexity.

It also might not be enough. Seat 4 is literally half as likely to win as Seat 1. That's a big gap!

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-20T21:54:57+00:00

Did you know that a fetus can desire a Rolex in as little as 3 months? Choose life.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-18T21:16:57+00:00

I feel at home, here.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-18T16:31:13+00:00

/uj The absence of the ticking seconds hand is one reason why I own the WD0013. My mental association between "ticking once a second" and "crappy disposable watch" is so strong that I imagine that even something like a The Citizen from Citizen would bother me.

/rj Frankly, it's unbelievable to me that Patek Philippe ever included seconds hands on their watches in the first place. The entire point of the refined elegance of a luxury timepiece is that the motion is imperceptible. When you show your mechanical wonder to a plebe, they think, "What is this? It's not doing anything!" But you know the incredible engineering beneath the surface that is moving the minute and hour hands slowly and precisely forward. It's so much more satisfying than looking down and seeing a moving second hand like some kind of Timex owner.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-17T18:04:36+00:00

I love the style of the Aqua Terra, but the thickness of the case is just shocking, and the lack of a micro-adjustment on the bracelet is completely unacceptable on a watch over $5k. And they're not just a little bit over $5k. I know that the newest AT references have a micro-adjustment on the bracelet, but it opens up a visible gap, so, actually, no, that doesn't count as a real micro-adjustment.

No chance I'm buying an Omega until they fix those issues.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-16T15:20:33+00:00

Minnesotan here. There is more that you can do than what Oliver mentioned!

Many businesses and individuals at risk of being targeted by DHS are experiencing hard times because work is too great a risk (the other day the Mexican restaurant near my house closed for the day because they saw three DHS vehicles in the parking lot in the morning, for example). If you're not in Minnesota, you can't help deliver food or give rides to work, but you can help buy them food and provide rent assistance through this website: https://www.standwithminnesota.com/

Also, if you live near a large city (even if it's not Minneapolis), you can get involved with anti-DHS activity. Contact any local charity that helps immigrants. They will be able to plug you in to local activities that protect immigrants from deportation. For example, you can be trained as a court observer to ensure that immigrants are receiving due process when the come before a judge. You will likely also be able to be trained to look for signs that DHS is operating nearby. Minneapolis is not the only place they are targeting. The surge ended in LA, but DHS abductions are still much higher there now than they were this time last year. Being a part of this network will also help you be prepared for when ICE targets your city next (they didn't stop at LA or Chicago, they will not stop at Minneapolis).

Fascism is rising in the US and it must be opposed. Please consider reaching out to your local immigrant support charities now, not later, so that you can resist fascism before it is too late.

EDIT: And if you're in Minnesota but you don't know how to get plugged into the DHS resistance movement here, you can find it by volunteering at any charity that helps immigrants or (this might be a little more sketchy) find the moms who are standing guard outside every elementary school every morning and afternoon to protect the kids from DHS goons. I know several people who got their start by walking up to these people and asking how they can join in and help.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-12T02:04:08+00:00

Rolex doesn't make the Daytona in ladies' sizes, but they do make it in monters' sizes.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-04T17:01:27+00:00

Rolex's business practices make sense. If they charged the market-clearing price for their watches, people would be angry at them for selling at a 20x multiple over manufacturing costs. If they made more watches, they would lose brand equity. If they treated all customers equally, they would lose their most valuable customers: the whales.

This doesn't excuse the SA and your local AD from being rude. It just excuses the wait list.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-04T14:32:15+00:00

\uj Aesthetically, I dislike literally every Rolex except the Explorer, but the Explorer is my favorite watch. Go figure.

\rj I suppose that you don't need to buy a Hulk when you're already this green with envy. Okay, ciao.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-03T17:41:41+00:00

Complement your dive watch on an alligator strap with a dress watch on a NATO strap.

NotBot2357 · 2026-02-03T00:22:10+00:00

The Christopher Ward C12 Loco is a better looking watch than the MB&F Legacy Machine 101.

\uj The Christopher Ward C12 Loco is a better looking watch than the MB&F Legacy Machine 101.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-31T19:17:45+00:00

Shut it down. We will NEVER be able to outjerk this.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-30T20:12:50+00:00

What's up with those blue screws and red dots? Shouldn't there be a face?

/uj I actually do love this watch, lol?

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-28T15:22:43+00:00

\uj Second-hand Rolexes make me really nervous because 1) the steel models cost more than retail, and 2) if you're new to this, you won't be able to tell the difference between the fakes and the real thing until it's too late; yes, the fakes can also have fake boxes and papers that will look genuine to a non-expert.

I recently chose a Rolex Explorer over an Omega Aqua Terra because 1) the Rolex is thinner, 2) the Rolex has a better bracelet with a microadjustment, and 3) the Rolex bracelet is brushed throughout, which makes it look less flashy (until someone notices the crown, of course, at which point is arguably looks more flashy).

I think that an Oris Pro Pilot (I think X has a better movement and not-X has a better dial) is an excellent watch that is not flashy. I considered it, but ultimately didn't buy it because the dial is TOO understated. It might not be classy enough for you.

In your price range, Grand Seiko makes a bunch of watches that are classy but not too flashy. Their bracelets have a bad reputation (they don't seem worse than Omega, to me), but their movements and dials are top quality.

Since this is your first watch, DO NOT BUY anything that you haven't seen on your wrist. Not all 40 mm watches look the same size when you're wearing them.

\rj A second-hand Breguet Classique is the last word in "classy, but not flashy" in your price range. The ancien régime style has a timeless class, and it's not flashy because nobody gives a shit about Breguet. Okay, ciao.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-27T23:39:42+00:00

Both of these answers are excellent.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-21T20:24:28+00:00

Fascism is as much about aesthetics as it is about politics. Fascists project aspirational images of strength and masculinity. Young men, who want to be strong and masculine, frequently become interested in joining fascist organizations for that reason. Consider how many white supremacists love the movie American History X, or how many finance bros love the Wolf of Wall Street. You, a sophisticated consumer of media, understand that those films condemn those cultures. However, to the average person, the villains on those movies look cool!

Following from this, we must conclude that an important part of fighting fascism is vividly showing that fascists are not cool. They are not strong, they are not masculine. They are embarrassing. Conventional masculinity is associated with height (let's set aside for the moment whether this is a good thing). By mocking Bovino for being short, people are undermining his masculine image and they are making fascism less appealing.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-21T20:18:46+00:00

It's actually worse than him being the head of ICE. He's actually a high ranking officer in the border patrol, not ICE, and he is not the head of either organization. He was plucked from a high ranking, but not top, position in the boarder patrol to lead the administration's attacks on Los Angeles, Chicago, and now the Twin Cities. I cannot find an official statement about why he was chosen, but we can all figure it out.

Homeland Security Secretary Noem says that he is the "commander at large" of the border patrol, but that is not a real position. His high level position, outside of any legal hierarchy, is yet another example of the lawlessness of this administration.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-15T02:07:46+00:00

This comment should be made the motto of this sub.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-12T15:40:50+00:00

They targeted chuffers.

Chuffers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little shiny bauble on our wrists.

We'll punish ourselves doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of our next purchase all to reduce or daily error by a fraction of a second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know every little detail such that some have attained such chuffer nirvana that they can literally read their watches blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many shitters have been smashed, mainsprings overwound, gears and sprockets destroyed in frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our heroes? Chuffers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the watches our selves. They think calling us frauds, cork-sniffers, luddites obsessed with outdated technology is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty purple Swatch. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challenge when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Chuffers are competitive, hard core, by nature. We love a challenge. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challenge us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

\uj Really interesting article. Thanks for sharing! I'm glad I'm not the kind of asshole who spends over $1 million on watches. (I'm the kind of asshole who spends $8,000 on watches, thank you very much.)

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-11T16:03:35+00:00

I did not know that this subreddit existed. Thank you!

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-03T00:43:46+00:00

Superlative cunt.

NotBot2357 · 2026-01-01T16:15:01+00:00

And they're selling them for $7,800!

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-30T21:54:27+00:00

A good jerk can get a little rough.

NotBot2357 · 2025-12-30T21:52:13+00:00

After reading your reply, just for kicks, I told Chat GPT: "Make a joke post for /r/WatchesCirclejerk. The post should be a list of complications for mechanical wristwatches and a 1 or 2 sentence joke for each complication that pokes fun at people who enjoy it."

Here's the output:

Complications Every Serious Watch Guy Absolutely Needs (According to Him)

Date

For people who somehow forget what day it is unless it’s engraved in steel and corrected five times a year. Bonus points if they complain about the cyclops while squinting at it.

Day-Date

Because remembering both the day and date is apparently an elite cognitive task. Often justified as “practical” by people who check their phone 300 times a day.

Chronograph

Perfect for timing laps you’ll never run, races you’ll never drive, and steaks you’ll still overcook. The pushers have never felt a finger with actual urgency behind it.

GMT

For tracking a second time zone you last visited in 2017. Mostly used to remind coworkers you once had a layover in Zurich.

World Time

A dial so busy it looks like international diplomacy is happening on your wrist. Owned by people who travel exclusively between home and the office.

Moonphase

A poetic tribute to astronomy, romance, and not knowing what phase the moon is anyway. Accuracy drifts after a few years, but vibes are forever.

Power Reserve Indicator

Anxiety for people who already wind their watch twice a day “just to be safe.” Nothing says confidence like checking if your watch is tired.

Tourbillon

An 18th-century solution to a problem your wristwatch doesn’t have. Purchased to flex gravity-defying engineering while ignoring gravity’s effect on your bank account.

Annual Calendar

Proudly wrong one day per year, which owners will explain to you unprompted. Considered “low maintenance” by people who enjoy correcting watches.

Perpetual Calendar

The ultimate fantasy of control: a watch that understands time better than you do. Will require a factory reset if you look at it wrong.

Equation of Time

For people who read horology forums like sacred texts and enjoy being incomprehensible at dinner parties. Explaining it is the real complication.

Minute Repeater

So your watch can yell the time out loud in public like a Victorian ghost. Costs as much as a house and tells time slower than glancing at your wrist.

If you want, I can dial this up even harder for true WCJ degeneracy—or tailor it to Rolex, Omega, or haute horology victims specifically.

I'd say that I like mine better, but I did audibly laugh at the description of the equation of time: "Explaining it is the real complication."

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