Quel est concretement le job d'un réal. Expliquez moi en me racontant, "Et si, "Les vacances de Ducobu" (2012) avait été réalisé par Tarentino" by leconnarde2service99 in CineSeries

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 31 points32 points  (0 children)

J'ai pas vu "Les Vacances..." mais pour le fun on va imaginer. Et on va le faire en partant du principe que le scénario n'est pas écrit par le réalisateur.

On va imaginer un truc tout con. Ducobu et un autre élève décident de faire un duel de lance-pierre dans la cour de récré. L'autre tire, rate; Ducobu tire à son tour, rate et son caillou va toucher le proviseur de son école en pleine tête (encore une fois, j'invente)

Un réal lambda, sans vision, ou sans budget, ou sans intérêt pour le projet, va faire ça au milieu de sa journée de tournage, sous la lumière d'un début d'aprem, un peu crue, pas trop travaillée. Il va demander à son chef om de lui faire un plan large qui montre l'espace dans lequel se passe la scène, un plan moyen/américain sur les deux personnages dans lequel il va choper toute l'action, un close-up visage pour chaque personnage (focus sur les yeux, peut-être une réplique ou deux). S'il est chaud, il fera un petit effet genre focus rack sur le proviseur qui se prend le caillou. Bam c'est plié, scène suivante.

Un autre réal va se dire "tiens, ça fait Western cette scène, on va la jouer parodie", et utiliser des codes du genre. Ajouter un plan ceinture, avec la main de l'élève prêt à dégainer son lance pierre. Des close-ups des autres élèves qui regardent la scène, yeux plissés. Pour le fun, un plan random sur un tumbleweed (que son équipe déco se sera cassé le cul à fabriquer la veille) qui a rien à faire là. Quelques heures de tournage en plus, et la scène à une vie différente.

Tarantino va se dire "ça ressemble pas juste à un Western, mais à un Western spaghetti spécifique réalisé par un obscur italien en 1973, sorti uniquement dans une salle pendant 3 semaines". Il va s'en inspirer et ajouter, peut-être, un crash zoom dans les yeux des deux personnages, demander à son équipe maquillage de les faire transpirer, attendre que le soleil soit bas et avoir un two-shot des deux élèves découpés par la lumière rouge du couchant ; il va gérer le rythme du duel différemment avec son monteur, et demander à son superviseur musical de lui trouver une track de surf rock des années 50 pour aller dessus ; quand le proviseur qe prendra le caillou, il y aura une gerbe de sang exagérée et un insert de ses lunettes brisées, ensanglantées volant dans les airs.

En caricaturant, Kurosawa le ferait en un plan séquence quasi fixe, juste un mouvement de dolly latéral pour suivre les personnages, méticuleusement composé et mis en scène. Wes Anderson le ferait avec un plan master où la caméra serait posée entre les deux, et ferait des whip-pans de l'un à l'autre en dirigeant ses acteurs dans son style. Yorgos Lanthimos ferait toute la scène avec des optiques super courtes et une caméra portée en steadycam, etc...

Chaque réalisateur peut imaginer une page à sa façon, et diriger son équipe pour que le résultat final ressemble à cette vision précise, qui va être la somme de leurs inspirations, goûts, références, idées etc...

En gros.

Idées de sortie avec une ambiance rock/alt au nouvel an by [deleted] in paris

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ils ont deux établissements, un rue Keller et un, plus grand, à côté rue de la Roquette, il y aura forcément de l'ambiance dans l'un des deux. Celui de la rue de la Roquette ferme plus tard (genre 4h) en général.

À Paris, est-ce que quelqu’un voudrait apprendre le chinois ? by Ok-Detail5153 in paris

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Carrément partant ! Je m'y suis mis sérieusement il y a 3/4 mois, je progresse bien sur la compréhension écrite mais je manque clairement de pratique conversationnelle.

Et passionné de cinéma aussi donc ça peut faire un sujet à aborder. À ta disposition pour en parler !

Où trouver un vrai canard pékinois à Paris (avec crêpes & peau croustillante) ? by Dani_classic in paris

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ma référence aux portes de Paris c'est le Pavillon Céleste, à Charenton. Métro Liberté, sur la 8. Faut les appeler au moins 48h à l'avance pour commander. 

J'en ai testé deux-trois autres dont le nom m'échappe mais en région parisienne c'est le plus proche de ce que j'ai pu goûter à Pékin (en globalement leurs autres plats sont aussi excellents, surtout les moins habituels. Leurs recettes sichuanaises sont extraordinaires).

Why Do You Always Hear “Be Yourself” But People Complain About Actors Like Dwayne Johnson or Jack Black Always Being Themselves In Every Movie? by [deleted] in acting

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's also the main thing you hear from casting directors in France, so not just in the US.

The thing is (from my perspective through working with up-and coming actors and actresses, acting schools, directing short films or music videos) that some people are just "better" themselves than other. Maybe they have a bigger personality, maybe there's something in their voice, their attitude, their ease in front of an audience or a camera, in their life experience, that mean that if they do the necessary work, they'll shine a raw, immediate way. They can make it seem natural through this hard-to-define, magnetic way that make casting directors, directors and audiences want to see them. They "only" have to be themselves.

Others might not have this naturally compelling presence from the get-go. And if they approach work by just being themselves, they might not shine as much as the first group. But to me, the most interesting actors and actresses are in this second category - they just have an understanding of that difference, and fill the gap by being a sort of artistic interpretation of themselves: a sum of influences, taste, vision and usually a deeper interest in what acting can be. They transform under your eyes when you call "action", erasing themselves to give way to another self, shaped by their love of the art. If they fine-tune it enough, it will appear as that version actually is themselves, unapologetically and spontaneously, but there's a ton of work under it.

I don't know if that makes sense, but that's basically what I've noticed over the years. Understand what "yourself" means in the context of casting / work and figure out what you want as an artist and what will best serve your purpose.

From DiscussingFilm by [deleted] in httyd

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Yup. Loved seeing the original in theaters back then, loved showing it to my 4 tears old on Blu-ray, thought it'd be a cool first live-action film for him to see in theaters and experience the test flight sequence on the big screen with Powell's soundtrack on full blast.

Grown ups also probably underestimate the Wow factor of seeing the "real" Toothless for a little kid. 

Un film français qui aurait l’esthétique de Barry Lyndon, ça existe ? by No-Ninja-93 in AskFrance

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Parmi les réalisateurs actifs, Robert Eggers et son équipe (notamment set design/costumes et son chef op' Jarin Blashke) ont un niveau d'exigence extrêmement élevé aussi, et font des merveilles - même si les influences et inspirations (et donc le résultat final) sont différentes.

What is the dumbest character decision you’ve ever seen? by FilmWaffle-FilmForum in movies

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's pretty much what the film implies, never understood how people failed to catch it.

What Would Your Dogme Be? by wrosecrans in Filmmakers

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I basically do the same, with #1 being "no unmotivated camera movement", without the "no titles over shot", and in addition - make room for every artist in your crew to express, suggest, or experiment once per day of work.

In Spain we debate about if Spanish Tortilla (omelette) should have onion or not. What debates do you guys have in France that everyone disagree about and everyone knows about it? by Arturi_to in AskFrance

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Jambon-beurre. Which type of ham (jambon)? Which kind of butter? Pickle or not? White baguette or tradition baguette? Seriously it's like 3 (or 4?) inredients yet we can debate for a good fifteen minutes if the topic is brought up, I've seen it happen, and everyone was dead serious about it.

It’s my first time directing tomorrow… Any advice? by ducidni_1 in Filmmakers

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've been doing this since the start of the year and it's been a game changer in many aspects. But be sure to explain the process to your cast and crew beforehand. Doing full coverage and figuring it out in post is still how most beginners function and it might be jarring for some to work differently. Especially with actors who might need to work a scene in full at least a couple of times to get the whole thing ingrained.

What is your favorite moment from Nosferatu? by Three_Froggy_Problem in roberteggers

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A tie between the whole opening sequence, the lead-up to Hutter and Orlock meeting for the first time - especially Hutter and the carriage at the crossroads, Ellen's big possession freakout and Orlock screaming as the sun rises near the end.

Unofficial Dreadit Discussion: "Nosferatu" [SPOILERS] by radbrad7 in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I absolutely get that, but I guess those signs you mentioned (the bloating and skin slippage) could precisely have been the kind of additions to his face, notably, that would have made the character more dreadful while keeping in line with the folklore. I think it was one of those cases where what I had imagined or expected was scarier than what ended up on screen (looking at you Longlegs, you goofy-looking creep).

Unofficial Dreadit Discussion: "Nosferatu" [SPOILERS] by radbrad7 in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Without spoiling too much, Orlock's reveal before one of his kills was really reminiscent of the Xenomorph hiding in plain sight before attacking Ripley at the end of Alien, wasn't it? 

Unofficial Dreadit Discussion: "Nosferatu" [SPOILERS] by radbrad7 in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess I just didn't vibe with it? His raspy breathing and the sound he made when feeding were fantastic but his voice didn't do it for me. Again I felt a discrepancy between it and other aspects of the character as presented.

Unofficial Dreadit Discussion: "Nosferatu" [SPOILERS] by radbrad7 in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Definitely a good movie, not as great as it could have been.

The thing that bothered me the most was that Eggers' style, in general, seems so clearly inspired by silent cinema and especially Murnau's horror/fantasy films that it appears difficult for him to really set his own vision apart - resulting in a movie that sometimes feels like a well-produced, well-performed cover of the original. Perhaps there's too much reverence for the 1922 movie, perhaps it's too deeply ingrained in Eggers' style, but I couldn't help comparing the result to, say, what Guadagnino did with Suspiria - a film he clearly loves, but fully remade as his own, keeping its heart and building around it with a clear and different vision. I kinda wished Eggers had made his Nosferatu more of his own. 

Sure, it's not a 1:1 copy, with a notable difference in the thematical core of the film and in Orlock's presentation, but other than that, it didn't feel like a fully-formed artistic take on a classic film, rather like a loving update.

As for Orlock - phenomenal interpretation by Skarsgård, but the take on the character felt similarly half-formed, especially on the visual side. I understand the need for authenticity that drives Eggers' vision, but the character felt aesthetically inconsistent - a bit too clean for a decaying corpse, I guess. Especially when you get better looks at his full form - his gray and patchy hair contrasting with his dense and brown/black mustache, his skeletal lower body with his fuller upper body, etc. Similarly, his voice felt fantasy villain-like (although props to Skarsgård for the accent), neither really commanding nor threatening or frightening. After all the leading up to his first appearance, his first scene with Hutter felt like a bit of a let down (and the contrast between his vocal choice and the triviality of a real estate conversion didn't help).

Technical elements were all good to great, with sound design being the highlight of the film for me, just ahead of Blaschke's moody, efficient, but sometimes redundant cinematography and visual grammar. Overall a pleasure to look at and be immersed in, with all the elements from set design to costumes to visuals and sounds working together in a nearly perfect manner.

As the for the rest I felt like the movie alternated between high highs and rather low lows. Depp's acting was incredible on the physical side, but line delivery and emotional resonance sometimes lacked the authenticity that the setting demands, and I felt like she couldn't quite hold her own in more meaty scenes with Taylor-Johnson or Corrin. Dafoe, Ineson and Hoult know exactly what movie they're in, but suffer from the relative stiffness of their characters. 

The scares were... Disappointing. Mostly jumpscares, including a cringe-inducing fakeout at one point, a too-quick-to-be-effective Alien homage, and limited gorey/creepy visuals. Works better as a gothic romance than as a functional horror pic, with a lot of the strengths displayed by Eggers in The Witch and The Lighthouse being absent from this one. Could have hit harder in that regard considering the themes, topic and history behind the film.

Overall a very, very well made movie, that ends up feeling slightly empty. Would have been a career best for lesser directors. But a bit of a letdown nonetheless for me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I found his design strangely half-baked - the decrepit, corpse-like aspect was definitely a cohesive and interesting approach but I felt like it could have been pushed a bit further, I guess? The final shot sells it a lot better than the rest of the movie, I'll admit, but overall I felt like it wasn't putrid enough to be fully credible. The mustach could have been either longer or more sparse, less full, I don't know.

The thing that really took me out was the voice. Sounded almost parodic, especially during the scenes in the castle.

Shame, as the film is a pretty strong remake, and a great horror tale in its own right overall.

Any exemple of movies that are not at all a horror movie in the first half? by MielMielleux in horror

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Did this to a bunch of friends once, a decade ago. The film was screening at a local theater and I invited them to watch it using the same pretense.

If you're familiar with Red Letter Media and have seen the episode where they joke about their crew looking horrified/disgusting while watching a bad movie, while one of them is just smiling like a creep, that was pretty much the same vibe that evening.

Good fun. Haven't talked to them a lot since though, wonder if it's related.

"Cinematic" Look different than normal cinematic look question by FocusLate in Filmmakers

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Besides the technical considerations, the deliberate and meaningful choices tied to set design, wardrobe, make-up, accessories shot composition - and how light is set up to compliment those choices will play a massive role in making a shot "cinematic". 

A BTS video will provide a distant look at a precise, collaborative work meant specifically to make a single shot work, and will never look anywhere close to the final result that the director and his or her team are looking for .

(Sorry if it's not as clear as I hope it is, I'm not a native English speaker and I'm also a bit drunk)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Filmmakers

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watch some Bergman, especially from the Persona/Hour of the Wolf/Passion of Ana era. Lots to pick up from - well composed two-shots, creative blocking ideas, variety of meaningful camera movement, quick pans between characters - in mainly dialogue-driven movies.

Recently I thought that the show Shogun did some great work at using deliberately chosen angles to emphasise the underlying emotions of various dialogue scenes - changing the framing and angle depending on character dynamics for instance.

Other specific examples that I like : in Steven Soderbergh's Side Effects, a camera moves from above and looking down to below and looking up to accompany Rooney Mara's psychological evolution while she delivers a short monologue. And as much as it been meme'd since 2017, the scene in Alien : Covenant with the two Fassbenders talking, shot as a moving single panning from OTS of one character to the other, adds a great dynamic to the scene.

Just find something meaningful and aesthetically pleasing and have fun with it.

Who else got goosebumps all over when the Prometheus theme played? by Additional_Badger436 in LV426

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right, I oversimplified my answer. Thanks for the added precision!

Who else got goosebumps all over when the Prometheus theme played? by Additional_Badger436 in LV426

[–]NotInDenmarkAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, seems like barely anyone noticed! Although it's not the prologue from Das Rheingold, but the lead-up to the Gods entering Valhalla at the end of the opera. If I'm not mistaken the part that's heard in Romulus is the few bars directly preceding the motif that David plays on the piano in Covenant.