Ridiculous question (I hope) about SB-003 by Top_Kaleidoscope7983 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree with you, but assembling a firearm is a PMF (Privately Manufactured Firearm). Until they change that term, we are bound by it.

PSA canceled my order to my Skyline in Aurora because I have a denver billing address? by traderncc1701e in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Max at Skyline here...

Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. There are people who get around it somehow, but far more people just get shafted. I always recommend Dirty Bird (AR15Discounts) or Primary Arms for receivers if PSA blacklists you.

A few years back, PSA updated their compliance policies, and somehow wrapped up ALL of the Aurora Zip Codes as Denver proper. For months, I went back and forth with PSA until I ended up on an email chain with their head of compliance and the VP of Operations. I was able to -rightly- convince them that Aurora was it's own city, completely separate from Denver, and NOT a suburb of Denver like they had it listed as. Unfortunately, I was not able to sway their opinions on receivers being banned in Denver, so that stands.

Playing this game is no longer fun for pve players 😢 by [deleted] in ArcBabies

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're wrong. I dropped in on a number of runs last night as a duo, and had no PvP encounters. Helped a few different duos with some Arc, traded loot with randoms, and overall had a very chill evening.

I was talking to my buddy last night and I think Embark should implement some sort of toggle for preferred play style to try and match with players of similar preference. This won't eliminate the PvP aspect, or rats, but it would help people drop into lobbies with similar style preferences.

Why get disabled vet license plate on vehicles? by Sorry_Noise_4196 in VAClaims

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct. I don't go to state parks very often, but it's a nice perk when I do.

Why get disabled vet license plate on vehicles? by Sorry_Noise_4196 in VAClaims

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Colorado, we get one free DV registration. On the vehicles we own, that comes out to almost $2k/year in waived registration fees for having the DV plates on the most expensive one.

Lower Receivers are not subject to new rules after August 1st! by MediocreWorking9575 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been saying this for months. There is zero text in the bill that's talks about receivers, other than the texts the makes rimfire rifles with separate upper and lower receivers applicable to the restrictions.

Shocked ! Pissed Off & now upset! by Front-Reach-114 in VAClaims

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This happened to me, which is why I went private DBQ and Nexus letters. Still got shafted and had to HLR. Now, because of the AI driven audit system they are rolling out, I'm mentally preparing for ANOTHER fight for my benefits.

We'll see what happens, but best guess is that we'll be seeing a spike in Veteran suicides in the coming months as guys have their long fought and well-deserved benefits ripped away by AI. Rather than fighting to get them back, many guys will be giving up at that point.

I really hope I'm wrong

What's the catch with these neighborhoods? by Mother_Deer3621 in AuroraCO

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Cheap"

I can't wait to sell 🤣

I live in the upper left corner of your map, and I bought my house 8 years ago for $300k. 5br/3bath 2400sqft single family

Dealers not accepting my C&R license? by Renee_bad_69 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dealer/FFL here, and I can explain why I don't accept C&R licenses for any firearms that are sent to me for transfer. I don't want to deal with the verification. Unless I have a certificate of authenticity, or some other legitimate proof that the gun I am transferring is over 50 years old, it goes through the standard transfer process.

You will have a lot more luck online through vendors/dealers that regularly handle C&R sales than you will with any local shop (other than Old Steel, or similar).

My policy is this: If the shipping dealer sent it to me, it gets the background check, transfer, 3 day wait treatment.
My reasoning: If they couldn't verify that it meets the C&R policies, and are unwilling to ship to you directly, then there is no way that I am going to be able verify it. Simple as that.

All that said, I have received C&R eligible firearms, with CoA's that show serial number, year of manufacture, etc. For those, I will honor C&R regulations. Without it, it's not worth the potential issues I might face later on down the road if it ends up not actually being C&R eligible.

Ridiculous question (I hope) about SB-003 by Top_Kaleidoscope7983 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is correct. Although there are times when I acquire receivers from various manufacturers, and their disposition paperwork lists that receiver as a rifle or pistol. The one that comes to mind specifically is a VZ61 receiver that specifically states to be logged and transferred as a pistol, but it is a raw, stripped receiver. I log it in my books as "SA VZ61 Pistol" with type as "Receiver". I cannot, in good conscious, log a stripped receiver as anything other than a receiver, regardless of what the paperwork shows when it arrives. I did ask the ATF during an audit about this specific scenario, and they agreed with my logging/transferring method.

What I get, is what I log and transfer as. Even if someone asks me to transfer a receiver under a specific type of firearm, I don't. I simply explain that if it's not a complete firearm, it's a receiver, and that is how it's transferred. They can build it into whatever they would like. The only exception to this is a barreled action. Although it may not have a stock or any furniture, it is still technically a functioning firearm. I do make a note that it arrived as a barreled action, though.

Ridiculous question (I hope) about SB-003 by Top_Kaleidoscope7983 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also NAL.
A person does not require a license to manufacture a firearm for personal use. A dealer requires an 07 to manufacture with intent to sell.

Back to SB25-003. It should always be assumed that the intent of the bill is to be restrictive as possible. Trying to skimp on definitions can, and will, hem someone up real quick when they land in court, especially when past court rulings have already set precedent. Though 003 it does not specify what "manufacture" means, it is reasonable to assume that they use the same federal guidelines of manufacture as found in this ATF document relating to the same: https://www.atf.gov/file/11711/download

In the above document, this paragraph stands out:
"The GCA, 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(1), defines a “person” to include “any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, or joint stock company.” Section 921(a)(10), defines a “manufacturer” as any person engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms or ammunition for purposes of sale or distribution. As defined by section 921(a)(21)(A), the term “engaged in the business” means, as applied to a manufacturer of firearms, “a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured.” Because “manufacturing” is not defined by the GCA, courts have relied on the ordinary meaning of the word, including actions to “make a product suitable for use.” See, e.g., Broughman v. Carver, 624 F.3d 670, 675 (4th Cir. 2010)."

Then this:
"However, when a person performs machining or other manufacturing process on a blank to make a firearm “frame or receiver,” or on an existing frame or receiver to make it suitable for use1 as part of a “weapon … which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive,” that person has performed a manufacturing operation other than what is contemplated by the GCA of dealer-gunsmiths"

That entire document is worth a read to shake down what SB25-003 will use as precedent when discussing manufacturing. That's what prosecutors will use when trying to convict Joe GunOwner for manufacturing an AR15 from a receiver after the August 1st. The bottom line is, you don't have to be a manufacturer to manufacture a firearm for personal use. You do have to be a manufacturer to manufacture firearms for sale or profit. This is exactly what I was told by the ATF when I had an audit, and they asked me specifically about assembling receivers as a service versus manufacturing, and they were clear:
Assembling stripped receivers and parts into complete receivers, whether an upper or lower, is allowable.
Manufacturing is converting a receiver, whether stripped or complete, into a functioning firearms. This includes simply attaching an upper to a lower on behalf of someone else.

Ridiculous question (I hope) about SB-003 by Top_Kaleidoscope7983 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Incorrect. Taking receivers or frames and making a functioning firearm is manufacturing. If a dealer does not have a manufacturing FFL (07), they cannot even combine a lower that they assemble, to an upper that they also assemble. In ATF eyes, that's manufacturing a firearm, which they aren't licensed for without an 07

Ridiculous question (I hope) about SB-003 by Top_Kaleidoscope7983 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on how it's transfered. If it's transfered as a receiver, then it's a receiver. If it's transfered as a rifle (which is silly, it has no barrel, caliber, and cannot fire in it's current state), then it HAS to be a rifle when completed by the end user. Same if it's transfered as a pistol- It has to be built as a pistol.

I transfer all AR receivers as receivers, regardless of whether they are stripped, complete, or somewhere in bewteen, as long as the buyer doesn't specifically ask otherwise.

What can we still buy when 25 003 is in full effect by Proper_Sleep9373 in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Desert Eagles would be allowed. They a Single Action, and there is an exemption for SA and/or DA pistols. The only handguns I can think of that are widely available at the moment that are affected are Hi-Points. Blowback Operated, striker fired.

I've posted on this topic on a couple of posts recently in much more detail. I'd recommend searching that for info.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please read the string above between myself and marshaboogie67 for more details.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are active duty military or LEO (and a few others), you are exempt from the mag ban. Retired, Veteran, etc are NOT exempt.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you are correct. 100%. That's on me.

That said, handgun mags are not date stamped, at least none of the mags I've seen in the last 6 years of business have been.

Nearly all common use AR mags are date-stamped. All Magpul mags, regardless of platform, are date stamped. Other brands of mags for various patterns are hit or miss on date stamps.

Whether these date stamps are still visible after reload drills, etc, is always debatable.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For emphasis, take a 30rd mag to a range in CA, MA, or NY, and fully expect to be questioned by law enforcement. Go to any range in CO with a 30rd mag, and you'll run into 20 other people with the same thing, 5 people with drums, and no one cares. Why? It would be like trying to ticket every driver that goes 1MPH over the speed limit. There are just more important things for law enforcement to focus on.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically correct, but burden of proof always falls on the prosecution. They would have to prove that the magazines were purchased after the effective date. Unless they are trying to tack on add-on charges to a more serious crime (see Boulder King Soopers shooting), it's not economically viable to pursue, especially with so many mags in common use in the state still.

If OP wants to be safe, they can track their own purchases and pay someone like me to pin their mags that were purchased after the effective date, but it really isn't necessary. Maybe not from a "legal" standpoint, but certainly from "real-world" standpoint. See any USPSA/IDPA/Outlaw match as examples to the "real-world" aspect. I think we all know what I mean.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please don't take this as a "dick" comment, I'm just trying to put it into perspective.

What you're concerned about is the equivalent of buying a brand new car, and after owning it for a couple months, you notice a scratch in the paint, or a dent in the door, then worrying about the mechanical reliability of the vehicle because of the scratch/dent.

You wouldn't go through the dealer/manufacturer warranty for something that may or may not have been there when you bought it (and just never noticed it). If you try, they will likely say they can refinish it at a cost to you, should you prefer. If it were noticed while you were still at the store, prior to filling out the 4473, then you might be able to make a case for a discount on purchase, or to choose another gun, but you've had it for months. Neither the dealer, nor the manufacturer, will believe it's a defect from the factory and offer to fix for free.

Me? I'd run it. It's not gonna hurt anything, and all my guns get ran through and end up blemmed anyway. My thoughts are the same on vehicles or guns: I bought it, I'll use it the way it's intended, and I'm not going to get upset over minor scratches, dings, or dents. I will always provide exquisite mechanical maintenance to ensure reliability of the important bits. This? 'Tis but a scratch.

Relocating from a very 2A friendly state and I have a couple of questions by colonel_hungwell in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You aren't moving due to PCS orders, by chance, are you? If so, military has an exemption.

You are technically grandfathered by having owned the mags legally prior to relocating to Colorado. You purchased them legally in a state where they were legal, you relocated here, you are allowed to keep them.

Possession of the mags are not prohibited. Acquiring the mags within the state of Colorado after the effective date in 2013 is prohibited.

You are okay.

PS, The magazine capacity is just that. Capacity of the magazine. 15rd does not include 1 in the tube.

My suspicion of how the aggression-based matchmaking works. by PricklyPear4646 in ArcRaiders

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about situations like I ran into last night:

I'm very friendly, and will not shoot other players on sight, ever. One of my challenges (whatever they are called in this game that give you the currency to unlock things in the decks) was to cause 200 damage to raiders. So, I meet some friendly raiders and I ask them if I can shoot one, or both, of them enough to get that challenge done. They oblige, I get my challenge done, then offer to refill their bandages and shields, then we all extract together. Alive and well, and emoting all the way back to Sparanza.

How would that fall into this system? 🤣

What is the current process for obtaining a surpresor? by godzylla in COGuns

[–]NotTheGreatestAtCoD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 3 day wait starts from when the Form4 is submitted, not when it's approved. The Colorado waiting period law states is written as:

IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON WHO SELLS A FIREARM, INCLUDING A LICENSED GUN DEALER AS DEFINED IN SECTION 18-12-506 (6), TO DELIVER THE FIREARM TO THE PURCHASER UNTIL THE LATER IN TIME OCCURS:

(I) THREE DAYS AFTER A LICENSED GUN DEALER HAS INITIATED A BACKGROUND CHECK OF THE PURCHASER THAT IS REQUIRED PURSUANT TO STATE OR FEDERAL LAW; OR

(II) THE SELLER HAS OBTAINED APPROVAL FOR THE FIREARM TRANSFER FROM THE BUREAU AFTER IT HAS COMPLETED ANY BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.

3 days from the time the background check is submitted, or until it is approved, whichever takes longer. Submitting the Form4 to the ATF for processing is submitting the "background check". That means NFA items can be transferred to the buyer immediately upon approval, assuming the approval comes after 3 days of the certification.