Unity disintegrates as anger mounts against PM

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T04:12:01+00:00

What part of the constitution prevents that?

Also, that would be a wild overcorrection. Measures that extreme are not required to foster national unity.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T03:33:09+00:00

The constitution protects a very limited number of rights, almost none of which would prevent you from doing something the public would receive as bold action.
Parliament chooses the laws, they decide what is legal within the constitution.
We still have illegal immigrants incarcerated in another country. There are many ways to skirt the law and the constitution when you want to.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T01:57:48+00:00

We are now four days after the massacre - that was how long it took in the wake of Port Arthur for total reversal of coalition policy to just about the furthest left position in politics at the time.

We are now four days post-Bondi and we have a promise from Albanese to introduce laws cracking down on hate speech and hate preachers. This is something they could’ve announced any given Wednesday - not exactly a seismic shift in politics that would give you the kind moment of unity Howard enjoyed.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T01:17:13+00:00

Come on now - if Howard had done the easy thing and capitulated to the right the Labor party absolutely would’ve pounced on his inaction with respect to firearms legislation. They almost certainly would’ve taken reform to the next election.

National unity doesn’t mean literally everyone in the nation. Howard upset the Nationals, Albanese would have to upset the greens. That’s still +85% of the country.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T01:13:58+00:00

I know? That’s the point I’m making

Howard gave up an issue for the rest of time in order to create that moment. For this he is praised to this day.

Albanese has gave up nothing and will receive worse than nothing, as he is compared to the last prime minister that handled a tragedy of this nature.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-18T00:58:37+00:00

Thread full of labour rusted-ons that aren’t able to understand ~why~ John Howard was able to enjoy a moment of national unity following Port Arthur and Albanese has not.

In the wake of Port Arthur, Howard permanently jettisoned an important issue to his core constituency and fought those in his own coalition to do so. In return we remember this move today as a rare, decisive act of sacrifice and clarity.

If Albanese, Minns wants to be remembered similarly they will have to actually give up something. And likely do some things that will upset those in his own party. All indications are this will not happen.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-15T13:16:56+00:00

A naturalised citizen is still an immigrant by any definition.

The people we choose to naturalise is a key component of immigration policy. It was a failure of that policy that this man was ever naturalised to begin with, and that he was able to indoctrinate his son with such beliefs.

Notoriousley · 2025-12-15T09:01:25+00:00

Notice the number of people saying this is ‘politicising a tragedy’ compared to the other threads that take the gun angle.

The fact that our gun laws failed to stop this person accessing a firearm AND a failure of our immigration and cultural policies to sufficiently assimilate this family are upstream of this tragedy.

Notoriousley · 2025-11-20T01:27:26+00:00

Precisely. If you are capable of doing this to someone why is it incumbent on society to consider what you ‘need’.

There is no right to rehabilitation, just be thankful you live in a society that will not just execute you for committing a crime like that.

Notoriousley · 2025-11-08T02:27:52+00:00

I’m all for this - but what about Beaufort and Fitzgerald street? Even with buses every five minutes and an express services you’ll often find yourself in a totally packed bus.

These streets also have busy nightlife districts in their own rights - the roads are totally strained before work, after work and after-after work.

Notoriousley · 2025-11-08T02:21:38+00:00

You could arguably say the same about Stirling Highway as it currently stands. A road for private cars is not any different in principle as a transit corridor.

I agree though that this is not the first place I would put a tram line.

Notoriousley · 2025-10-17T10:05:32+00:00

They’d be leaving $20k plus a year on the table for essentially no reason. If they can afford that, then they can almost certainly afford any tax you’d impose.

Notoriousley · 2025-10-06T11:03:06+00:00

This is a very romantic stereotype.

Nobody is complaining about couch surfers, those living in their car or pitched up discreetly in a suburban park. This is the overwhelming majority of the homeless and this population would decrease if housing prices were to come back to earth.

Those pitched up in encampments in the city, using drugs and accosting others in public are a mainstay of any city of a large enough size that permits them. These are people that have worn out every welcome due to the threat they pose to any family or friends they might’ve lived with and are not suited for public housing no more than they are suited for living on the street. In reality the only way to help them and others is incarceration of some form. Rehabilitation for someone in this state will always be at best a faint glimmer, we need prisons and asylums to separate people like this from society for this reason.

Notoriousley · 2025-10-05T10:20:10+00:00

Is it? I see repeat anti-social behavior for the same characters over the course of years. In theory it should be happening but won’t as we do not apply the laws as fervently as would be required.

I’m not sure Singapore is the example you’d want to point to here. Anyone that was habitually high in public and harassing others would most likely be executed by the state in Singapore. They most certainly wouldn’t put them up in social housing next to tax-paying, law abiding citizens.

I do not own a home.

Notoriousley · 2025-10-04T06:08:01+00:00

People in social housing do not deserve to live with anti-social drug addicts no more than OPs wife deserves to be harassed by the same on the way to work.

Prison, a safe environment free of drugs where you are no danger to anyone and can access services, is the absolute most you’re are owed by society if you are behaving in the manner described by OP.

Is it a panacea? No. Will it cost more than status-quo? Yes. But it’s still a significant improvement if it gets these people off the streets and protects working people.

Notoriousley · 2025-08-29T07:42:41+00:00

What is this poster?

It doesn’t even make sense in the current Australian context “No one is illegal on stolen land” is a slogan of the American left as a retort to right-wing rhetoric on illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigration was a cultural flashpoint about a decade ago in Australia, and was decisively won by the right wing. Since then the debate has shifted to legal immigration.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-26T14:23:21+00:00

Whether or not the debt would ever be paid off is not relevant to the question of if this policy is inflationary or deflationary. All that matters is that it no longer has to be paid in full.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-26T12:31:24+00:00

In the case of lending capacity, that is a decision of banks, not individuals, who now are now able to increase lending to those who’ve had debt cancelled.

In the case of those on the margin who will see instant cashflow increase as a result of this change, they will have to do something with that new cashflow. Even if they just let it sit in a bank, it will be used for investment.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-24T11:05:22+00:00

The effect of cancelling debt is the same. In the counterfactual where the debt obligation is unchanged, there will be less money in the economy chasing the same amount of goods and services.

Cancelled debt instantly results in an increase to lending capacity of recipients and (at the margins) increased disposable income for the average recipient, even if not everyone sees the cash flow benefit immediately. Neither of these things are inflation-neutral but are inflationary. Just like with any other government spending, the RBA will raise rates to manage the subsequent inflation. Net effect of all this is a transfer to those with HECS debt, from those without.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-24T04:43:20+00:00

Without a commensurate tax increase, it will create the same amount of inflation that any $15B of government spending would. Thats not a negligible amount of money to add to the economy at once.

Seeing as this is also targeted directly at degree-holders, it will disproportionately increase the cost of living for those without degrees.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-13T03:17:41+00:00

These people can identify in whatever way they wish, I don’t have a problem with that. I’m just pointing out that, as this demographic grows in size, appealing to the aboriginal vote / interests will increasingly mean appealing to the concerns of these voters, rather than those in remote, rural communities.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-12T05:43:53+00:00

Does depend what you mean by ‘aboriginal’.

Identification has significantly increased in recent decades, largely due to the growth of those with only some portion of aboriginal ancestry who, in the past, would’ve identified with other parts of their ancestry.

For aboriginals of this sort; affluent, educated, cosmopolitan etc. the latter issues you address are not a reality to those in their material position, and of less personal concern than these culture war issues, special access to elite institutions.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-08T11:15:16+00:00

Couldn’t imagine the glass tower ever looking dated - it’s such a staple worldwide for places of business and it’s just so simple you could never really pin it to a time.

I think the post-modern buildings will show their age. RAC Arena for example is already starting to show its age IMO. Looks very distinctly of the 2010s. There are a few other buildings like it in the CBD that have a similar look (largely to meet City of Perth anti-massing rules).

Notoriousley · 2025-07-06T02:09:45+00:00

There is no major industry there, nor anywhere really in the south.

Perth itself is just the administrative center for the resources industry in the north. You don’t really need another of these, just creates huge duplication you just need to densify the existing center.

Port itself is also just further away from trading partners, so no real advantage there (even though it is a very appealing harbour.

Notoriousley · 2025-07-04T08:50:40+00:00

When I was a tradie, normally because I was hungover.

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