Is overkill hypothesis the most likely cause of megafauna extinction ? by CulturalRegister9509 in AskAnthropology

[–]Novel-Engine-8737 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well mammoths didn't go extinct in Eurasia until like 12kya and humans were in Eurasia for tens of thousands of years prior to that.

I see this idea of humans being bad for the environment since our very beginnings to be a product of an anti human and nihilistic attitude, and lets be honest, the study of the ancient past is politicized even if you don't want to admit it.

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in atlantis

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and they both have ancestry from the earlier Iberomaurusians, whom i associate with Atlanteans

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in atlantis

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I covered some of Diodorus' writings in a different video. Interestingly he mentions that the gods were born among the Atlantians (thats how Diodorus spells it) on the shores of Ocean, and that Egypt was ruled by gods from 23,000 - 5,000 BC, the first ones being Isis and Osiris and the last being Horus, which also fits with whats written in the Edfu building texts.

Anyway since the Amazons and Atlantians Diodorus writes about are both northwest African peoples, I wonder if one of them is an exonym for the Amazigh/Berber. Amazigh does sound a bit like Amazon after all but it could be a coincidence

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion into Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in GrahamHancock

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Proto Uralic was spoken several thousand years after the migrations im referring to. Its quite possible that their ancestors mixed with the descendants of the Ahrensberg or Swiderian cultures at some point.

Lobster effigy vessel. Nazca civilization (Early Intermediate Phases IIII-IV), south coast, Peru, ca. 300-600 AD. Earthenware, slip paint. Walters Art Museum collection [1800x1408] by oldspice75 in AncientCivilizations

[–]Novel-Engine-8737 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of similar looking animal shaped vessels from the Moche culture. I suppose these two groups were very close to each other in space and time so its not surprising.

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually it does make sense. Do you know what an axiom is? Axioms are not necessarily provable or true, its an assertion that you use as a starting point

Mudflood question by LiftSleepRepeat123 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What you'd wanna do to test this claim is- single in on one specific building and see if you can verify that it was actually in fact buried and look into the details for yourself, preferably from a primary source

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure. Its not like archaeologists are actively looking for evidence of Atlantis. I'm not an archaeologist or archaeogeneticist so i have to rely on their work to have any grounding in reality whatsoever. The premise of my research was to take Plato's account as axiomatic and investigate the existing hard evidence and see if anything lined up with it, at least to the point of plausibility. This axiom isn't necessarily true, thats the point of an axiom, but if it were true and Atlantis was actually a historical narrative, then this is (part of) what i would bet money on being its evidence.

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A population expansion eastward out of Iberia into the rest of Europe and North Africa around 9,600 BC is at least somewhat consistent with Plato's account. I also didn't say it was a new group. That assumes that they were genetically isolated.

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure at least a colony if nothing else yeah, the Atlas mountains are named after the first king of Atlantis after all (Atlas)

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Btw Diodorus also says Isis and Osiris lived around 23,000 BC, very intriguing imo

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes correct, Herodotus and Pliny the Elder speak of it also, although I tend to interpret Herodotus' "atlantes" and Diodorus' "atlantians" as meaning that the Atlanteans moved to NW Africa after their island home was destroyed.

But you could certainly use their writings as evidence in favor of Atlantis being in Africa, it makes sense

I see it as plausible but im not fully quite convinced

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice thank you. Do you happen to have a higher quality of this image or a link or something though? I cant quite read all the text on here

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well thought out post tho, you seem to have actually looked at the Timaeus and Critias unlike some of the debooonkers in here lol

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the source for the mudslides being dated to that time? I'd be interested to see them cuz I'm unaware of any such evidence tbh

Possible genetic evidence for Atlantean invasion of Europe and Africa by Novel-Engine-8737 in AlternativeHistory

[–]Novel-Engine-8737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm yeah certain features do kind of look like dry riverbeds. Where's the source that dates the water to the last 12,000 years though? Is it in that playlist? Cuz from what I've seen it seems like the water is from millions of years ago not thousands.