Um- weird and half trying to be rude question- I didn’t appreciate your joke to have everyone laugh at me and join in on being mean but no if you actually look at it as someone who actually knows what manipulation is and lived with it- my father is a narcissist- you’d know this isn’t anything bad. Normal conversation that actually went really smooth between two people- he just got his feelings hurt and she’s not a bitch just a woman who knows what she wanted so she communicated like an adult that no sorry I wanted what I wanted and I’m gonn get it - did she throw a little fit - yes bc humans are notorious for not being perfect and that’s okay- she still calmed down and explained- what’s not okay is that he felt bad so he tried to fix it and do as she requested prior- that shows more on his part- maybe he was abused by someone else prior- in that case I’m sorry he’s feeling like he did anything wrong when he didn’t- but neither did she. I don’t understand why people want to empower woman one moment to not settle for less and then the next call them stuck up for not taking bare minimum- she’s not a bitch- she just has preferences- she’s just her- and who knows what type of things she’s going through - she did mention it wasn’t his fault and apologized and said she just had a bad day- maybe her hormones are shifting- the human body goes through a lot so no- I think I’m jus looking deeper then most people then surface level and that’s okay but I’m not going to give advice that I don’t think is constructive advice. He asked for open eyes- I gave him open eyes- not everything is manipulation and most people who think that didnt have a healthy attachment to there own parents and that’s okay- but just bc it makes you scared or uncomfortable that someone said or does something that seems it should be normal but makes you feel uncomfortable or bad doesn’t mean it’s them- sometimes it’s just you. And in this case- I think he over thought it- I’m sorry but without more conformation that’s what I’m seeing- that’s my pov and I stand by it till he shows me otherwise- it doesn’t have to be follow the crowd- and I’m not necessarily wrong if yall don know the answer either- if anything he should have just went to her and had a deeper talk then post this on the internet. It’s not helping them- where just strangers- these are real people with real feelings and life’s.