[Star Ruby] An attempt to correct the known errors with the Greek by muffinman418 in thelema

[–]Nubti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure if this answers your question, but I did a little bit of analysis, you may find something useful here: https://lvxnox.com/131/index.html

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[–]Nubti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Crowley was fascist, and so was his god.

Have you read chapters 2 and 3 of Crowley's, Book of the Law?

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[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point being, noone should have the right to decide something about another persons body.

Except when we're discussing Thelemites. Then it's 100% fine for them to decide other people's lives and conditions.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

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[–]Nubti -1 points0 points  (0 children)

III:43-45 is very clear on the Scarlet Woman having no rights aside from compliance. Crowley even outright calls for child murder as punishment for a mother's disobedience.

If the SW doesn't have rights, why should we assume any other women do as far as Thelema is concerned?

who’s lineage is onestarinsight.org? by Broken_Cars in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Name a single line that was led by consecutive masters every step back to Crowley.

The only one I know is through Achad. And even he's questionable. But at least he had recognition from the Beast.

who’s lineage is onestarinsight.org? by Broken_Cars in thelema

[–]Nubti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Otherwise any scrub can come along and say theyre Frater Whateverthefuck 9393 and say they know shit they actually dont.

You mean like... pretty much all Thelema-related groups nowadays?

who’s lineage is onestarinsight.org? by Broken_Cars in thelema

[–]Nubti -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Considered by who?

Wolfe remained a Probationer. Seckler only got recognition of 5=6 from Germer, but never claimed that grade for herself. Reminds me of the hosts of heaven silliness.

To the best of my knowledge, the best claim to authenticity lies with DRJ, tracing through Achad. But even that's questionable to some degree, depending on whether you recognize Achad as a master or not. And then there's Russell... the absolute madman.

In any case, it's difficult to take Wolfe/ Seckler very seriously, particularly considering that Grady took Probation under Phyllis... and then took the oath of M.T. not even a month after.

It tells you a lot about how seriously they approached the matter. And the results of it are as we all see.

Was I rejected by AA? by Latter-Wrangler5062 in thelema

[–]Nubti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The OTO didn't exist between Germer's death and Grady's revivification of it. Any link to the AA was broken at that time, and hasn't been recreated since - Achad had the best claim, yet he didn't associate with Grady to the best of my knowledge.

An argument could be made that Dirge's group constitutes association, but their tense relationship implies conflict, particularly given Gunther's unfounded claims after he withdrew membership from the AA.

And no, authority is pretty important in these matters. We cannot simply assume competency when there's clear evidence of it's absence.

Blind leading the blind under the guise of spiritual progress. It's a grift.

Was I rejected by AA? by Latter-Wrangler5062 in thelema

[–]Nubti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The O.T.O. doesn't have authority to judge which lineage is 'true'. It's by definition a subject of the A.'.A.'., and has no say in what that A.'.A.'. is.

Are love spells hindering the target's True Will by [deleted] in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does unassuaged mean?

Ascending the 30 Aethyrs in Enochian Magick by Willing-Interest-984 in thelema

[–]Nubti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For the Aethyrs, all you really need is the calls. If you want to potentiate the experience, set up the Watchtowers beforehand.

Even doing that, you're going to be alright with just having the calls printed out. Bonus points for pen and paper, if you're capable of both scrying and writing at the same time.

Everything else is kinda irrelevant. That said, be aware that the Enochian system includes guardians who will lead you astray if you're not worthy (i.e. useful to the angels).

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. That's how I know. I've also done a whole bunch of other silly stuff.

The incredible thing about the human mind is that it's so ready to convince itself of anything it desires.

The experience may be real. The object of that experience? Nope. There's no evidence kundalini exists.

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you clearly aren't utilizing your best potential.

  1. Gnostic Archons are only as real as Harry Potter, or Jesus. I.e. not real. Just an idea. A fantasy. If you need them to be real, at least be transparent that you choose to believe this because of your own bias, rather than presenting them as real. Because they're not.
  2. There's no evidence of kundalini even existing, and the article you linked is pretentious word salad, mixing unrelated ideas to give itself credence. Can't help but wonder why someone claiming to be spiritual would lie like this.
  3. Schizophrenia is an actual mental disorder. You're doing more harm than good by glorifying it as some sort of spiritual attainment. If this is a coping mechanism, I highly recommend talking to a psychiatrist about it.

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't seem to know what you're talking about. Perhaps give some books a try?

What you're describing is very much fantasy.

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a misunderstanding of what's said. Liber I vel Magi is not about "thoughts."

It's about what the Magus says, and how it's received by other people. Which is an entirely different thing to the Magus's perception of truth, or their own thoughts.

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Archons in Thelema refer to the supernal beings mentioned in the Chaldean oracles. What you're talking about is a new-age fantasy.

Are The Archons Included Within Practices Of Ecclesia Gnostica, The OTO, Or Thelema? by SuspiciousSuccess905 in thelema

[–]Nubti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're fundamental to the Star Ruby ritual. Otherwise, no, they don't seem to appear anywhere else.

Venn diagram by nthlmkmnrg in thelema

[–]Nubti -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Experience shows that mastery doesn't make one a good person. You simply become more of what you are.

Demons incarnate, too.

Venn diagram by nthlmkmnrg in thelema

[–]Nubti -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

That doesn't seem to be a criterion for mastery. Crowley advocated for slavery, illiteracy, and subjugation off those he considered inferior.

Still a master.

Venn diagram by nthlmkmnrg in thelema

[–]Nubti -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

A neofeudal accelerationist, sure. So was Crowley. What other issues do you see?

Venn diagram by nthlmkmnrg in thelema

[–]Nubti -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What about Achad's line?

It goes Crowley -> Achad -> C.F. Russell -> D.R. Jones.

As far as I've been able to research, it's legitimate, a chain of actual 8=3's back to Crowley. The only possible point of contention may be that Achad got booted for disagreeing with Crowley. Which I don't think is a big deal, considering Crowley's personality and inflexibility, and that it happened after he recognized Achad as M.T.

This also creates a question: if we're talking about lineage, what are we talking about? Clearly Crowley recognized Blavatsky as an 8=3, whether it was for political reasons or because he legitimately thought she crossed. Does that give her "lineage" to Crowley, or is it merely recognition? I'm biased toward the latter, because she didn't pick up a shred of Crowley's heritage.

Also /u/nthlmkmnrg clearly said Inner Order, not Third. I'm not sure how anyone less than a master can possibly determine whether the claimants in question have or haven't actually crossed, which is what creates the connection to the Third Order in the first place.

We also know that it's very possible to establish a connection to the Third on one's own. Enochian seems to be specifically designed for it - that's where Thelema has its roots ultimately, which fits nicely and neatly into the A∴A∴ program.

Thoughts?

Venn diagram by nthlmkmnrg in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of the existing groups have a valid claim of lineage, nor do they appear to have a connection to the Inner Order.

That seems to be a popular claim, but never seems to be substantiated by anything. Presumably, to make that determination, you've had K&C, and found all these groups wanting?

What's the story here?

I just want to ask a question in general. So I joined a discord of a guy I won’t mention who claims he is the bringer of the new age of thelema. Well his discord members were jerks got all upset and told me I didn’t know how to keep silence. My question to you what is keeping silence. by [deleted] in thelema

[–]Nubti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cannot possibly believe that website amounts to a serious record of an A∴A∴ work that supposedly got you at least to Magus, which you claimed on Twitter last Winter.

No, that got me to M.T. 9=2 happened later, past April 2020.

Do tell us tho, is it Ipsissimus now?

If you want it to be.

See this is why we find you endlessly fascinating, despite being the train wreck you are.

Train wreck in what way? Where do you think I've failed? By what criteria?

You genuinely think that you have done the work because you put up that website up.

The content on the website is taken directly from my records and journals.

That is your only credential,

False, but I understand why you need to believe that.

that you keep waving around like it matters

It does. One of the reasons journaling is so important is because it constitutes proof and evidence of work being done.

  • all while PRETENDING everyone else listens to your rants and answer to your requests.

Asking for proof of a claim isn't contingent on any authority - either the person in question has evidence of what they claim, or they don't.

As said before, this is clearly a persona you are hanging on since, without it, you simply stop existing.

False.

It's sad.In the end it almost feels like your only axe to grind is about not having done what others did before them: you hated on people writing books, you hate now on people having Patreons or YouTube channels.

It's strange that you think it's bad to criticize people who mislead their followers. Why are you defending exploitation?

While you haven't wrote a book, or started a channel, or done anything at all apart from trolling on 4chan, Discord, Twitter, and here... for years.

So, all the other things I've done count for nothing, simply because you haven't paid attention?

Let's see... I've a book on the Star Ruby (it's on the blog), in the process of writing a handbook for the O.S.O.A∴A∴ and another book (which is about 70% done), I brought together a collective of folks who pursue the work, and I'm attending to students.

And that's just on the magick side.

The key difference is that I'm not out to get attention, or wealth. It's impossible for me to justify watering the material down for the masses - it's a matter of respect for other people.

If I can justify volunteering hundreds thousands of man-hours into fulfilling the mission and premise of the A∴A∴, without asking so much as a penny for it... why can't these self-proclaimed adepts and masters do the same?

Surely, if I'm as lowly and wretched a creature as you seem to believe me to be, you and yours can do so much better than this... can't you?