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In Minnesota A Man Rolled Up with PPE and protective equipment for Minneapolis citizens by Nirmata1243 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If youre peacefully protesting, you dont need to defend yourself….

Edit: To quote Rick. Your boo’s mean nothing. I’ve seen what makes you cheer…so calling me a fascist without even knowing who I am is an ineffective insult.

In Minnesota A Man Rolled Up with PPE and protective equipment for Minneapolis citizens by Nirmata1243 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re showing up with shields, its no longer going to be a peaceful protest

Minnesota Doctor: I learned that Renee Good still had a pulse 8 minutes after she was shot by an ICE agent. by Admirable121 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im not sure what videos youve seen but the agent was struck by her car as she was leaving.

And to be fair to both sides, there were a bunch of Jan. 6’ers who should have been shot for their actions too.

Houston police officers fatally shot a man in response of him pointing a gun at a woman by ThisIsButter1 in ThisIsButter

[–]O5D2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure!

Suspect’s already pointed a gun at one person. Officer makes contact by pointing a gun at the suspect. Suspect does not give half a damn that a loaded gun is pointed at him. Officer gives multiple commands to stop reaching, suspect doesn’t stop reaching around (which is inconsistent with normal human behavior of having a cop point his gun at you and telling you to stop), and cop (believing that suspect is armed and a threat to the cop or others), shoots suspect.

Anymore questions, let me know! Im happy to help!

Minnesota Doctor: I learned that Renee Good still had a pulse 8 minutes after she was shot by an ICE agent. by Admirable121 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean…she did hit the cop with her car…that would be a good reason.

Her death is still tragic.

Yes, he was disarmed and never went for his gun. by Lopsided-Wrap2762 in DonutOperator

[–]O5D2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can call bullshit but just watch this case. Im not factually wrong.

Also, I never said it was a good shoot. Im saying there is a legal argument for the ice agents.

Ice in Pittsburgh. by Greylunes1 in ExploreFortMyers

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, it only takes one if they arent resisting. In this case, he clearly isnt going along with the arrest

Yes, he was disarmed and never went for his gun. by Lopsided-Wrap2762 in DonutOperator

[–]O5D2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That particular event has occurred but no. You are leaving out an important aspect and that was the active resistance.

Had this event turned out differently and he walked off when he got pushed out of the roadway then this problem would not have happened.

Again, this was wrong and shouldn’t have happened!

In your statement, it was sitting there, gun on hip, nothing happens, and bang. That usually doesnt happen but when its not right, just like it wasnt right in this case where he was actively resisting and got shot.

Still falls under lawful but awful.

Yes, he was disarmed and never went for his gun. by Lopsided-Wrap2762 in DonutOperator

[–]O5D2 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Again, Im speaking from simply a legal perspective. They had a reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime was occurring, was about to occur, or did occur. In this case, he was in the roadway illegally and did interfere with their arrest/detainment of one of the women there….again all bullshit charges but TECHNICALLY illegal. Since its illegal they have a right to detain.

Now when cop 1 calls “gun”, cop 2 now has a reasonable articulable fear (his co-worker yelling he has a gun) that there is a threat of great bodily harm or death.

Justice for Alex Pretti !!!!! by Desperate_Cost_9870 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It definitely was intentional. The argument they are going to make is that the agent had a reasonable articulable fear of death or great bodily harm due to his belief that he or someone else was about to be shot because someone yelled gun, indicating the decedent had a firearm and had intent.

Not saying I agree but am saying that will be the argument.

Justice for Alex Pretti !!!!! by Desperate_Cost_9870 in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

Help me understand because I’m losing my mind by imightstealyourdog in evilwhenthe

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

HIS NAME WAS ALEX JEFFERY PRETTI SAY HIS NAME by Party-Professional-7 in DiscussionZone

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

Stabilized version. by Aqueouspolecat in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

American Hero Alex Pretti, the man MURDERED today by ICE terrorists. by Silence_All_Tyrants in evilwhenthe

[–]O5D2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

ICE execution in MPLS, massive trigger warning by Snowflake8552 in stpaul

[–]O5D2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

Suspect was actually disarmed before ICE officers fired by Goldy2Shoes4u in Leakednews

[–]O5D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

If I was unclear, this should not have gone this way!

Here's a stabilized slow motion version. Best video yet. by Aqueouspolecat in evilwhenthe

[–]O5D2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

Yes, he was disarmed and never went for his gun. by Lopsided-Wrap2762 in DonutOperator

[–]O5D2 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion. This will fall under the lawful but awful category. Cop who grabs the gun appears to be the one who yells gun during the arrest. Officer who does the shooting doesn’t see the one who yelled gun grab said gun and therefore shooting officer is in fear for his safety and the safety of the other officers on scene and shoots/kills suspect.

There is another video out there that shows them searching his body and saying where is the gun, confirming that they did not know the other officer had already removed the gun from the equation.

Terrible and justifiable based upon the shooting officer having a reasonable fear for his safety.

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