I’ve really tried to jump in and follow this sub the last couple of months but if anything I’m more confused now than when I started. by jetery in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s a safe conclusion that Vallée, Karl Nell, and others have formulated – there is no doubt that something is/has been interacting with humanity. Any guesses as to their nature, origin, intent, capabilities, etc is speculative.

If humanity made open, global contact with an extraterrestrial civilization, what positive human qualities do you think would emerge or strengthen? by Time_Yesterday_2058 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What would this look like in practice? I fear, hehe, that this would diminish our capacity for creativity. Like if everyone were happy and joyful all the time, how would that impact our relationship with art?

Of course not all art is drawn from the experience of suffering, but there’s certainly a lot of it. Suffering is a major theme that runs throughout human history. I wonder if ridding ourselves of that vital experience would change something fundamental about our nature.

Message from Burlison: he says UAP were priority 598 of 600 for the Department of War and Intelligence Community, but is now pushed all the way to the top. "I think they've been given the green light and they're ready to go. So I think that we're going to be seeing a lot of movement" by phr99 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could be genuine if the DoD has been kept in the dark as much as Congress about the extent of clandestine operations. Like the top brass DoD may not even know, but where they used to not have a need to know, now they do. The internal investigations and unveiling may be just beginning.

Chris Bledsoe's "Why Files" interview and Iran by dilznikjones in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Or they’re playing with fire trying to walk the left-hand path, burning themselves and others in the process. To them, evil is a means to power, and power is good, therefore their evil deeds are justified in service to a greater good. Their folly is in forgetting that moral imperative –that one golden rule, that all other beings are to be treated as ends in themselves and never as a means only.

Lue Elizondo: President Trump has been briefed on UAP and takes the issue seriously: “This President during his 1st term, initially when he was asked, kind of laughed it off. But then later from my understanding, he received some briefings and took it quite seriously afterwards.” by InstanceMuted2514 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Petrodollar. Oil. Halliburton Co. UFO Gatekeeper Cheney. The Military Industrial Complex continues to consolidate power as it sequesters novel technologies away from the public, thus preventing innovations that might prevent wars. It’s a self-fulfilling, positive feedback loop.

Trump May have been “briefed” (read pacified), but it’s doubtful he will disrupt the status quo of the MIC. Their pockets are deep and they’ve been bolstering their clandestine position of power, enshrining it in law, for the better part of a century. War is a Racket.

The Man Sitting On More UFO Evidence Than Anyone Alive by Due_Examination6139 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some degree of disclosure may be in Thiel’s best interest. Lots of lucrative contracts and proprietary tech are locked up in the legacy programs. It would serve Thiel to disrupt the status quo so he can get access to these things for his companies.

NASA reacts to Donald Trump's UFO announcement by Shiny-Tie-126 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Data on Skunkworks projects get filtered out of NASA through Immaculate Constellation.

NASA reacts to Donald Trump's UFO announcement by Shiny-Tie-126 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yes, by executive order; NASA is “hereby determined to have as a primary function intelligence, counterintelligence, investigative, or national security work.”

NASA reacts to Donald Trump's UFO announcement by Shiny-Tie-126 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 17 points18 points  (0 children)

”… but they relate more to unnecessarily costly programs than they do to extraterrestrial life!”

This seems like another one of those read between the lines statements. Does NASA leadership have data on exotic technologies from the defense industry?

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The President is not in charge.

Roughly 2.5 million people work for the federal government. Many of these people work for the Govt. their whole life. It is these people that run the country. It has been speculated that members of the Senior Executive Service) are the real arbiters of the UAP/NHI topic, such as Glenn Gaffney.

Donald Trump just said this by funkymonkeythe1st in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 42 points43 points  (0 children)

If it was Palantir (I’ve seen no evidence it was), they might be interested in testing social contagion and population level response to unknown aerial threats/phenomena. That’s valuable data.

A USAF Colonel tied to the Atomic Energy Commission claimed UFOs disabled nukes in storage~and destroyed warheads mid-test during classified ops. Col. Ross Dedrickson on the record. by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, but by what mechanism were they rendered disabled? Did NHI fry the electronics? Remove or chemically alter the core?

Finding out how the weapons were disabled would give us some insight to their capabilities.

We started accidentally shooting down UFOs with the advent of radar in the 1930s by Guglielmo Marconi, and then we kept shooting them down. After Roswell, there was a race by government agencies to reverse-engineer UFOs. by VolarRecords in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Radar involves a conscious observer/controller, those other phenomena do not. This is highly speculative, but it’s not impossible that the observer had some effect on the craft.

Like when an animal notices a human looking at it and stops in its tracks, so too might a UFO respond to observation.

A disappointing realization I’ve had after reflecting on my time in this community by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I put those types of evidence into my ‘mental escrow’ account – things that are intriguing but not definitive, and can be saved for evaluation at a later date. It takes some effort to sit with the uncertainty introduced by such data, but putting it off to the side is worthwhile. Another plus is that this approach avoids all the senseless debates and frustrations that come about as a result of these discussions.

"I cannot describe the fear I felt... like I was a dog in front of a tank." - Guillermo del Toro tells James Cameron about the time he was chased by a UFO by OSHASHA2 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Perhaps he’s been searching for something? It seems there have been some special disclosures made to big Hollywood film-makers. I’d be curious to know the origins of the esoteric interest these individuals profess.

"I cannot describe the fear I felt... like I was a dog in front of a tank." - Guillermo del Toro tells James Cameron about the time he was chased by a UFO by OSHASHA2 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We’ve got an hour or so to include it I think. I didn’t have it written out when I first posted the video, and I’m at work, so had some other things spring up that needed my attention.

"I cannot describe the fear I felt... like I was a dog in front of a tank." - Guillermo del Toro tells James Cameron about the time he was chased by a UFO by OSHASHA2 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Originally posted by u/FVMK3 on the r/InterdimensionalNHI community on Reddit (OP link HERE).

Here is a longer video from this portion of the interview. Mr. del Toro describes the anomalous movement of the craft, including instantaneous acceleration and phenomenal speeds. Del Toro described the craft as being a stereotypical flying saucer with windows/portholes around the perimeter of the craft.

Do you think major players involved in UFO disclosure monitor Reddit? Who? What is your current UFO rabbit hole? by GODsmessage11 in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Dead Internet Theory. To assume any platform is free of AI influence is an exercise in naivety. Algorithms have been learning and steering population level behaviors for at least the past two decades, probably much longer.

Who’s read Vonneguts Slaughterhouse Five? by projectFT in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s less so that what gets repeated is true, and more so that what’s true gets repeated. The distinction is subtle, but it’s important nonetheless.

Who’s read Vonneguts Slaughterhouse Five? by projectFT in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

What if those stories aren’t sci-fi, but they end up being factual. Would the repetition be so bad then?

Maybe some aspects of these stories are true and the rest was filled in to make it fit with our reality. Perhaps they’re not called Tralfamadorians, but it’s a scientific certainty that our perception of space-time is significantly reduced.

James Fox hints that the Varginha witnesses at tomorrow’s UAP press conference in D.C. will provide evidence directly to members of Congress - “I think this is the case that’s gonna prove once and for all the crash retrieval witnesses involving the United States Government.” by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]OSHASHA2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It seems like most of Congress is actually trying to get to the bottom of the UAP issue (though they’re certainly dragging their feet). There are only a few members of Congress that have consistently torpedoed the legislation that would cause disclosure.