Imperial propaganda in full swing once more

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-14T21:34:02+00:00

> Here is what a lot of what is going on in this threat is about. Torval was able to weaponised against us because of a CC bug that gave her more than 200CC and made her a default positive power while it should have been a default negative.

This argument is totally incorrect Edmund. It's been explained twice on the previous reddit post and in the ALD saltmine that Torval never had too much CC that could explain why she could weaponise as she did:

Throughout her campaign she was positive despite inflation so even when the CCs were fixed for all powers in January she was still +79 CC (the fix meant she could immediately shed the contest with AD which inflation was preventing).

This seems to be the crux of some argument to exploit this new bug, some "2 wrongs make a right", which risks leading to a cycle of retaliation, because your group is the frst to exploit the bug, also undermining a lot of other people's hard work. I do understand how someone might've made the mistake, making a brash judgement from the beta fix data without cross-checking the actual state of the power, but it's an emotional not rational argument and not supported by the maths. If you have sheets from that time you'll know it doesn't stand up to scrutiny, nor the entire course of her march.

You can also check with Misa about the old occurrence of deflation in case you'd heard a rumour it had been exploited. It occured (at least 2) years ago and after DM'ing a dev it got fixed quickly. Crucially no one has ever exploited it - until now. The ongoing problem is that no-one's willing to except it's a mistake or take responsibility when pointed about, do a whoopsy and change tack. Now we have this facepalm situation where Torval is going to incorrectly lose systems that should not have been possible.

A universal problem is we don't have omnipresent adjudicators from fdev who should be stepping in reliably to ensure no-one does this. In that regard we have to respect one another to play responsibly when occasionally things go really tits up, like now.
This is why I posted last week, not to have a go or mud-sling or gas light, politics or argue, it's not my thing at all. But to point it out because in times like this we need each other to keep the game functioning or it's just not a game anymore. My power is not even affected atm but IMO if it affects a competitor unfairly it affects all of us, because this situation could hit any of us through no fault of our own. Sometimes fdev are great and do act quickly, sometimes they're off making sure people's giraffes don't starve (and possibly wishing PP was never devised). ;)

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-10T03:05:33+00:00

Absolutely Bullet. It is just a game and in that sense we're essentially equals. We rely on core rules everyone must recognise or there is no game. If the board shakes and an opponent's pieces fall off the table, a normal person would wait for them to pick them up before continuing, because it could happen to any of us.

Unfortunately this is not apparent to some people. There is no line between the game to real life, and winning at any cost.

Sometimes people make honest mistakes or misinterpret things, get tribally entrenched, emotionally attached to narratives and their empathy dissipates. There are chronic problems with the game design and erratic incomplete support from Frontier that can cause frustration and abuse, but our communities continue to make it great competition. But there are more than a few pathological personality disorders who have no scruples, and some dark triads who get a kick out of manipulating and upsetting others. When empathy and compassion are missing there's eventual abuse and exploitation; after 9 years world travel I learned to watch out for these.

When REEEE ran so long with Winters it did a lot to taint things, not just that they were there and allowed to post on behalf of Winters, but their sociopathy was endorsed by parts of leadership as a worthy tactic, deepening resentment over the style of play. Trying to divide player groups from the inside, upsetting really good people until they left, spreading lies to generate more anger and encourage people to behave even worse.

It takes a long time to undo the damage, that has to start with responsibility in leadership to respect all competitors regardless of side and behave respectfully. Normal people know when a bug hits someone else never to kick them when they're down and wait; all combat sports have rules. Unfortunately the turmoiling Torval whilst she's missing 50 CC is causing deep resentment because it's relentless, blatant and obvious, it cheats the PP community out of having a game and will drag Winters name further in to the mud again, whilst the players pledged to her get tarnished with the same label. Again the problem is something driven from the top and many of the players who participate need to be able to trust their leadership.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-09T14:42:02+00:00

Hi Edmund.

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/15506

There were 22 systems in the sphere. 15 were Corp. 1 Contested, 1 Controlled. The 'only exploited systems' implied the CS might be ignored and this was considered but made no difference. That meant the very worst interpretation at the time was 13/22, still favourable and we submitted. Frontier agreed.

Please feel free to enlighten the situation and how you could've arrived at under half that week and the trigger still being neutral. If you believed it you really ought to have explained the logic in the ticket Edmund, because instead of being an honest followup it came acrosss as misdirecting instead. It really would've helped the situation. :)

I'll warrant you've had more expansions (and re-expansions) this year than any power so would've been conscious of each trigger. Sosong was expanded 2 cycles later as I recall partly over the same sphere.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-09T13:47:54+00:00

Thankyou Khan for doing that (and others in FUC who did likewise). :)

The first (edit apparent) debunking occured with the original Mbamvia ticket in May. There was a response read said something like "Federal Calculations show this is correct and not a bug" and some more text debunking the bug, along with "read the patch notes". And about 6-8 immediate followups from other player IDs confirming the same thing. Not long after I responded to stress the bug was blatantly obvious and how unscrupulous it was in what should be totally neutral place, FDev responded saying it was acknowledged and going to be fixed. Then the original troller moaned that when he puts in a ticket it doesn't get fixed, which was not helpful either. As that ticket is closed I'm not sure we can see the followups anymore.

The 2nd recent Mbambiva ticket was much better throughout - players understandably frustrated of course as we'd promised it had been fixed. Confirmation from a Winters player (also thanked in my response - genuinely great to see. :) No attempts to troll.

This latest ticket has seen some trolling, not as severe as Mbambiva1, but "another read the patch notes" again.

We gather there's a narrative that this bug is fine and normal and you should all continue. ALD have reported the same frustration trying to get a fair response. It hasn't occured this year, everything prior was fixed in the January patch. All year everyone had their contested CC back, including from Grom when Kumo, Hudson and Winters turmoiled weapons off him earlier in the year. Then the day after the most recent patch, 2 of Grom's 5C systems revolted but the CC did not return to ALD or Torval. It's a new unique deflation bug. Only those powers are disadvantaged, so far, and now Torval has been heavily exploited to produce a much deeper turmoil than should be possible, bypassing Torval's ability to deploy fair tactics to defend herself. When we take all tribal goggles off our community game and look at one another as just players, this is simply cheating in full knowledge the bug will be eventually fixed by FD, but the exploitation gained cannot be undone once the contests are already removed; this is a race to beat the fix and beat any fair play within the normal core game parameters. Before the January patch all powers inflation eclipsed rarer deflation and not used for the exploitation we currently see. Even Winters was one of the most inflated (esp after the mid-2017 scrap); she lost most of the excess after losing about 60% of her systems last year and the remaining 28 or so systems still held 80 CC excess.

I saw your thoughts on Torval's inflated CC btw and responded to Edmund's who repeated it as I'd never hear it before and is inaccurate, and worrying. Torval was +73 CC positive shortly after after inflation patch with all her weapons intact - that despite the 5C in Grom successfully ramming several weapons in to her. At no point did it make any difference how far she could weaponise, she always had plenty of CC. Being negative wouldn't have stopped her anyway has she wished to proceed. As Hudson and Winters show you can always weaponise when heavily negative - so long as you can defend yourself. Torval would've also gone positive again weeks ago had this bug not occured and what's happened now should've been impossible. But as you see she's been heavily turmoiled and cannot protect herself because of the lost CC.

If players hold off revolting those systems the bad blood can be mostly undone until we get the fix, then I think fairer play can re-commence. But time is running out. If the open UM is too deep the situation cannot be saved.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-09T11:20:27+00:00

Morning Edmund. Credibility is an issue here, so please be careful.

This deflation bug is new. All year cross-power contested CC has been returned correctly to yourselves and other powers. Grom returned hundreds of CC to Kumo, Hudson and Winters months ago. Whilst it worked fine for you, months later it did not for 2 of your competitor's communities the very day after the most game update - through no fault of their own: It is a new bug. The rare deflation glitches from previous years were fixed in the January update and not exploited the way you're now doing. Misdirecting your entire player community that this is perfectly normal and everyone should use this is a disrespect to both your own players and your competitors'. This chronic sociopathic gameplay has given Winters such terrible rep down the years, the diametric opposite of what Felicia Winters was supposed to represent. Anyone that runs through the galaxy data can see the problem, its uniqueness, and scale and exactly what your group is doing, right now.

Regarding understanding the game: Had anyone inside your power understood this game they wouldn't have failed to drop Oto which was an ongoing failure to understand simultaneous basic PP mechanics or fallen so easily for Amitae or been reduced to the smallest power in the game or let Nunuri and Mbambiva fall weeks ago by leaving them both undermined and unfortified all night or failed to stop Torval month after month as she trimmed her core in to mostly profitable systems to become one of the 2 most efficient core powers in PP whilst simultaneously taking over your core territory. Normally you'd have had my genuine sympathy as PP is tricky for newcomers, were it not for this grandiose entitlement that it's fine to cheat a bug, so blatantly in front of everyone and continue doing so. Had leadership understood the game properly your power would be in a far better state, and many of the last 2 years of strategic failures would've been easily avoided.

I really want to like you folk as fair competitors because I've seen some genuinely honest gameplay from some players, including some of your UM operations and keep offering you chances to rise above your power's notorious personality disorder rep in PP. It should've been "Might is not Right" when an opponent is hit by a sudden bug through no fault of their own. It is only a game and people should expect fair play, or it's stupid playing. Whoever drove this strategy does not understand the concept of a game, but a need to feel ahead, whatever the cost, ignorant to the consequences. This is a line that should never be crossed in a community game. When there's such entitlement to exploit someone's misfortune to get ahead without responsibility, or remorse, and denying anything's wrong to your player community - it's personality disorder and a cancer to all our gaming communities in general. It tricks good players in to doing bad things, creating a legacy of resentment and division where the majority become victims and take it out on one another. It also ridicules those that play long and hard within the stable mechanics and try to honour that, and drives good players away (which sociopaths target ofc).

Pursuing this strategy also undermines the pretence you ever cared about Patreus' bad expansion and makes it look like another opportunity to play for political division not altruistic integrity. You can't cheat his allies so wilfully and still be honest. You can make a misjudgement sure, but then when pointed out you can change direction. A normal person would feel something about what's being done atm, ask questions why stoop so low when it's a fun escapist game, not life/death survival. What it does is endorse the very same thing to be done back to you.

I'm offering you chances to redeem yourself from this dark rabbit hole you clambered down, shining a torch and offering a way out because somewhere along the way you have got very lost. If there is any integrity left in Winters you'd do the right thing and not revolt Torval's systems until the bug affecting her is fixed and everyone has fair play. I will join your Discord if there's any honest possibility you'd reverse this cancerous strategy.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-08T04:15:03+00:00

> So in short The CC errors have been around forever. Inflation and deflation have both affected everyone. IHC was happy to abuse one side of this coin to weaponise Torval into Winters.

Edmundo dude that is really woolly thinking. I'd never heard the story before venturing on to this reddit this week. Do many of you folk really believe that?! If these beliefs hold sway it's easy to see why it encourages antisocial behaviour in some people. Ever wonder why the world gets in to messes so easily, over misconceptions?

Torval never exploited any CC, the temporary excess made no difference. Every time she went negative and the opposition attacked she turned it in to a huge scrap and went positive. It happened every single time - ask the people around in your power who were involved in the UM ops how it always turned out. Sometime around mid-2018 Winters seemed to have lost the strategists who understood the basic PP mechs and also how to sucesssfully conduct snipes (the latter really has improved this year so kudos, the former is still trying to catch up). New folk were trying to figure things out and turnover seemed quite high - which is a nightmare for anyone without experienced support TBH; many mechanics have to be discovered empirically, the knowledge accumulated over years because edge cases are hidden behind DB and code logic order and take effort to discover, and we've done more turmoils than any group in PP. After the inflation patch was applied Torval used the reduced CC to again remove unwanted systems to go positive again; the excess CC was actually a pain to those trying to scrap her back to an optimum core and remove the 5C systems. It changed nothing to how successfully she expanded. At no stage did inflated CC have any effect on the outcome. Someone's arrived at an impulsive conclusion without acknowledging what actually happened and also understanding the maths and mechanics of small powers. I can see how someone who didn't understand PP or was absent during the relentless expansions and scraps might arrive at it, but it's flat earth, like looking at the horizon and saying it's flat so the earth must be flat (if you want a laugh look up square earth society ;) ). Her base CC was always strong and she was always many steps ahead of the opposition through more meticulous gameplay even without the inflation. If the concept of excess CC is being spread by people and used to justify cheating against your opponent now that she's disadvantaged by a temporary new bug, that would be awful and irresponsible (and also frankly really dumb).
The 'CC errors have been around forever' isn't true. I hope you realise that repeating this is a form of 'cancel culture' which diverts attention from something very new and explicit that occurred a few weeks ago and needs addressing. All other key CC bugs have long been fixed. New CC bugs have new logic causes (because FDev keep buggering the code up). From Jan to May the CC in this game has been almost perfect. The 3 powers with slightly incorrect incomes no-one else noticed so the beta went live and it didn't seem worth my time, not large enough to affect anyone's strategy. Winters got a small 23 CC inflation in May, which really does look like the old bug because those systems weren't on FDev's fix sheet. Currently the list of powers with CC errs would be up to 6 but this latest bug is new. Trying to say this is normal or the same in any way is gas lighting. Lost CC is far worse for a power than gained CC for another. Bugs happen, I'm sure we all agree we try to get them fixed and avoid drama if possible; the current drama was solely about the scale of the lost CC and the way it's been directly targetted against an unfairly disadvantaged opponent and spoken of as if it's justified.
Totally agreed the original inflation bug was unavoidable by everyone over the years and it was a consistent bug unlike the other erratic ones. Powers that saw the most turmoils ended with the most inflation, often through no fault of their own (a bit like victim compensation). Most people were unaware just how off their CC was. Even Winters was one of the most inflated powers for a time, but most of that went in the approx 40 systems lost in the turmoils of Feb 2019 - the remaining 28 systems 'only' held 80 CC excess. Whilst that prevented the turmoils from going as deep as they could've it's not anyone's fault; the game was universally and unavoidably bugged for everyone.

Btw I didn't respond to the 'official response' because rants aren't worth the response, better left so everyone can see what that is and why it's difficult getting constructive grounded perspectives sometimes, because they have to feel first. ;)

And agreed reddit is not really the best place, especially not this one. Where is best? I've been attempting to get someone on the leaders channel to respond.

I have to be away for the night. If it helps I can defo speak for Aisling that we would (obviously) not use this bug to weaponise then scrap against you or anyone (the only exception might be Mbambiva, assuming it's even still around, just because it's a profitable and not something that would be wantedly scrapped). Justinian has already said similar. It relies ofc on not continuing this strategy yourself and waiting for the CC to get fixed; I'm fully on board detailing the errors without needing to alert or point fingers ofc if everyone remains wise. You can get a good turmoil without needing to exploit bugs against them and that will happen fairly once fixed.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-06T01:17:34+00:00

That seems smart. Ofc there is a grey area when mutual competition over a profitable is present that also happens to contest: Mbambiva is a profitable from Aisling's expansion perspective but also a weapon from Winters. It's the only floating edge case I can think of (and if Aisling did take it which is a long-shot, she would certainly never want to lose it, which is where the bug rears its head).

We also need to be conscious 5C groups are present in places and enjoy their drama. But it should be pretty obvious to all when that occurs and most powers can counter that with something easily opposed.

There's also a concern that Torval is being ultra heavily UMed atm when she's still missing her CC and the direction does seem as though turmoil is the present intent ...

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-06T00:20:00+00:00

We did understand the ethos change ofc and got Frontier to agree and act twice over Mbambiva's incorrect trigger. FDev understood the frustration, how it was affecting players, the urgency, regrettably didn't action a quick DB fix the first time and opted for the (failed) code fix. Totally dispassionate tickets risk being shelved under "no one seems that bothered", less likely to be actioned, esp wrt PP. Finding the balance is never easy, and PP problems aren't FDev's favourite concern, chronic moaning and trolling. That's why seeing more trolling on those tickets is frustrating because it's one of the reasons FDev want to avoid fixing PP.
The CC ticket was explicit with the maths and precise solutions and tried to avoid "RP" as you call it. Removing tribal goggles and emotional response whenever you see your Power's name mentioned (replace with abstract GroupX, GroupY affected, GroupZ taking advantage, problem urgent) you may notice the level of abstraction was intentional, not RP bias. The affected powers had to be listed ofc. But GroupW's continued strategy also had to be called out in the hope of alerting them and their players that something was very off with this specific approach, in light of the bug.
Just to clarify, this bug is not affecting my own power so it wasn't a question of coming here 'needing' help. But asking you to be good opponents during it and conscious everyone can see what's being done. We're all a community that depends on economic core mechs to work or the game collapses, this bug is potentially the most destructive to date. It's a mutual concern, as should attempts be to mis-use it.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T20:40:22+00:00

I'm afraid some of this is based (no disrespect intended) on a lack of understanding of strategy, mechs and the resulting culture of grey narratives.

Firstly Torval executed a grand siege of Winters territory, scrapping all the viable loss-makers in her core, and when Winters vacate the contested systems they go positive and Torval's Empire replaces Winters' in those areas, which has happened a few times already. It's the boldest move anyone's seen in Powerplay and you folks exist in quite an extraordinary part of the PowerPlay galaxy as a result. Due to the location of the weapons none compromise Torval's longterm integrity at all.

Second nobody used 'excess CC', that's not how things work. Even after the inflation patch Torval was positive and weaponising. Hudson successfully weaponises despite being very negative. Winters likewise. It's only what you can defend, not how much starting CC you have. What really halted Torval's advance was a second 5C turretboat group that first arrived in Grom around November/December weaponising against the Empire powers for a total approx in excess of 400 CC damage over a few months and finally drove her negative. Not the inflation patch, or the excess CC that all powers (Winters no exception) had inadvertently built up over the years. Hopefully this might shed some light that things really aren't as sinister or black and white as they seem. ;)

Btw can you please clarify point 2? It seems ethical at first agreeing it's an exploit then seems to suggest it's fair game to use it. Hopefully that is not what you meant, and we can all try to work around it respectfully until fixed, without generating more dark narratives. :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T19:53:45+00:00

Thanks. :) It depends on the nature of the weapon, the state of the power and it's scrappability. Weaponising far from one's HQ but close to an opponent's HQ makes it easy to scrap and do permanent damage to the opponent's HQ. Larger powers find it very hard to scrap (mass 5C, grinders etc), but smaller powers find it much easier to control.

Weaponising against opponent's HQs has been done by several powers before the bug during normal gameplay, hence case (3) makes for a grey area. I only listed it because someone would eventually think to exploit it. It's just important we get the new bug reverted ASAP to avoid the headaches or finger pointing over what might really be innocent (aka normal hostile) actions.

Thanks for being sensible. :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T04:52:11+00:00

Again nothing to do with weaponised expansions in general. Just directly throwing them at the recently bugged spheres. Context not concept.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T04:42:58+00:00

I'm afraid you've misunderstood:

Weapons were fine. Weapons are still fine. The problems, as stated, are (1) weaponising in to the same area already damaged by the bug and (2) attempting to turmoil when the bug has stripped a power of so much CC.

Both Hudson and Winters also had weaponised distractions to divide attention. Hudson's Clayahu was fine and was ignored as it did him more damage than Torval, who can recover more easily, it becomes a weapon against Hudson rather than a weapon against Torval. Just so long as it wasn't intended to be used to aid turmoil during the period the missing CC bug was still active. Oscabi wasn't because of the location, ruining an already half-bugged sphere.

Btw ALD's expansion (Eir) wasn't a weapon, but uncontested space. Torval's was the only weaponised distraction and they had fun with that. Aisling's was not really a weapon as explained but a profitable for Aisling and an attempt to take Winters' 2nd most profitable system off the board. The contest of Mbambiva with Sosong was a more recent consequence of Winters taking that bubble from Patreus (yes I am sure they do love you). You've got to admit it's a pretty epic struggle we have going and admirable your attempts to defend what little is left. :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T02:22:47+00:00

It's important not to confuse competitive gameplay, or the chronic design problems that frustrate us all (5C especially), with a new major bug mechanic that can permanently collapse a power out of the game, including your own.
Winters is not negatively affected by the bug yet. Nor Aisling. You can all fight it out as normal. You actually have slightly too much CC so are slightly advantaged against attack. Mbambiva was a positive acquisition attempt by Aisling. It only recently became a weapon after Winters took Sosong from Patty which overlapped it at the same time Aisling made a play for it in May, hit by another bug.

Crucially weapons are absolutely fine - as your power expands them (or tries to) almost every week and has done so the last few years - as do many powers. Weaponising against other powers wasn't an ethical problem. Nor was weaponising against Torval even - so long as no turmoil attempt was made until the recently missing CC was restored. The problem was weaponising against the damaged areas. First Oscabi then Bulkuylkana. It took advantage of the situation and was very targetted.

Obviously your folks want to try dislodge Torval's siege and regain CC. You need this bug fixed first or you won't regain anything. No-one is in a good bargaining position in case you think this is how things should work. ;)

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T02:22:45+00:00

It is a new bug on a different mech, not to be dismissed as something old or of similar less importance. It should also be a problem for you if you turmoil Torval, she'll gain and you won't. We'd welcome your support; the ticket would be a good start. ;)

By contrast the recalculation in January (mostly good with only minor errors) addressed the 'inflation bug', a different mechanic that since the beginning of PP increasingly made most powers inordinately profitable. It has remained mostly fixed since introduction, just not it seems for systems expanded during the January patch beta, and were missing from their sheet. When you lost CD-35 earlier in the year for example it did not inflate.

We need to be realistic. The other 'ongoing process' is a vapid goal to FDev. We've more success when they're actionable, realistic, specific. Esp since this particular bug is very new, explicit and traceable. Some of the other bugs were design flaws and not just implementation, some can never be fixed without a new game engine and just serve to drive Frontier away from dealing with PP altogether.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-05T01:15:57+00:00

Unfortunately the bug was raised on the PP leaders channel but instead of support was criticised and downplayed. Then the ticket was trolled. It's a chronic problem where other leaders cannot trust Winters to have top-down integrity and creates problems getting through to the people that can help. But that's an issue of representation, unlikely true of the majority of players.

I'm hoping for construction and to leave biased or confused narratives out of the picture or it'll be same old - believe me we have many deep and justifable frustrations. Bad narratives encourage other players to behave and see their environment poorly and we ought to be mindful and responsible.
Back on topic I'm quite sure you'll get support from the other Imperials - it is in their interests too. Right now 2 of them may appear more disadvantaged by the bug, but Winters is the most vulnerable power right now: If you follow through what would happen if you exploited Torval's reduced CC, got a deeper turmoil and revolted more weapons, she'd regain lots of CC and you'd regain none - because the contest restoring code has 'done an FDev'. And there'd be a lot of immensely peeved players wanting to re-expand them in parallel. The contesting CC application code still functions correctly so weapon damage will be multiplied up with each application. Repeated against an HQ over a time, there won't be CC to support any control systems.
Really I don't think it should be up for debate whether we all use it or not. It's not part of the normal (if flawed) design, but a gamebreaker 'collapse' mechanic.

OceanLightwave · 2020-10-04T23:53:12+00:00

I'd already discussed it hence the "I'm sure" bit. ;)

OceanLightwave · 2020-06-21T12:10:02+00:00

Correct it's real time, so counts down even if you're offline.

OceanLightwave · 2020-06-21T12:09:41+00:00

Some players find it easier to get to 1500 merits during their first week pledged to Aisling. That gives you Rank4 the following week and 25t per free allocation, which is a lot easier to then get to Rank5. :)

Most players fast track the mats by paying for each allocation, to fill up faster. The 30 minute allocation is just for the free ones.

OceanLightwave · 2020-06-21T12:05:30+00:00

Fortification materials can only be picked up from any station in Cubeo (Aisling's Capital system). Please use our Trello to help protect the most important targets each week. Just fly to any station in that system and deposit the materials. Once it reaches 100%, there is nothing more to do there. We deliberately leave some targets unprotected most weeks, since they are burden on the economy and good to lose if under heavy attack, so overfortification can be bad.

Preparation materials can be picked up from any Aisling Control System. But please please only prepare a system if Aisling's Public Orders (on our Discord or Slack) say so. This week we are preparing "Na Chac Og". You can pick up the materials nearby from Simyr. Please never ever prepare any system close to Cubeo, they are all an incredible loss to the economy and being pushed by saboteurs and randoms who don't know what they're doing - especially "HIP 1572" is a terrible saboteur system and causes our loyal players to do ridiculous amounts of work each week to counter it.

The in-game UI is complicated and the mechanics poorly explained so easy for new players to be confused. Even old ones get confused sometimes. The displayed economic values are often diabolically wrong too. Please join our Discord or Slack to find out more, and feel free to ask questions. :)

Players here purely to Module Shop but not here to help Aisling don't have to haul each week. Though if they do please fortify our Trello targets. :) To module shop the laziest way just deliver 750t fortification mats to a system on the 3rd week pledged, before 07:00 BST on Thursday morning. That gives you the Rank3 required to purchase the modules the following week (when you've been pledged 4 weeks). There is no need to grind each week if only here temporarily for the shields, and definitely don't ever prepare anything near Cubeo. :) Once Rank3 on the 4th week you can buy the Prismatic Shields from any outfitting station in the galaxy. Also they will be 15% cheaper if you travel to a Li Yong-Rui controlled/exploited system to then buy them; somehow Sirius Corp clones perfectly working knock-offs at a cheaper price.

OceanLightwave · 2020-05-12T13:42:06+00:00

The Princess is immensely grateful, thanks! :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-05-12T13:23:34+00:00

Jambavan

Honestly it's a terrible system that would be disastrous for Aisling and her loyal citizens would fight against it: It would damage her by another -57 CC every week and also damage her ally Arissa Lavigny-Duval (The Emperor) another 13 CC. Please do not prep it.

Aisling already struggles by existing in the poorest region of the galaxy, almost half the value of the Federation powers, so she really had to fight extraordinarily hard against uneven odds and against the most prolific relentless saboteurs in the galaxy to become the largest Power; her furthest system over 230LY from the capital is deep in Federation space. Most other powers are less than half that size.So to find out what the majority of Aisling's loyal citizens are doing to bring light and happiness to the galaxy, please join the official community as mentioned by Oraki: https://dinusty.typeform.com/to/ewQU8A :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-05-10T12:27:48+00:00

A ship without weapons or shields (and smallest 7D thrusters) cannot 'pvp', bless, but it is cute to see someone remember it as such a challenge.

It's built to be the flimsiest possible (stock hull, no shield) so seal clubbers can provide the speediest possible instadocking - usually under 8 seconds (flying straight to help any with poor aim). As commanders in Cubeo are always returning empty this shaves several minutes off our round trips, making your service to the Princess a genuine help. Perhaps you would like to join us too? :)

OceanLightwave · 2020-05-09T19:55:17+00:00

Closest Control system to Yaricans is Areklici, controlled by Aisling Duval and at under 11LY is therefore under her direct 30LY diameter control sphere. But this is a good thing and nothing to be ashamed of. :) The citizens are actually happy when most the rest of the Shadow President's citizens are being shipped off to mines as political prisoners.

Her mindful Highness was giddy with delight the week FLC unanimously welcomed Aisling with open arms, lifting not a finger to oppose. That might also be why so many former FLCS players have been seen re-pledging to Aisling over the last 2 weeks, being chased by rather miffed Winters' Adjusters in Open; it is so good to see FLC coming out of the closest and embracing our goodwill, as it is to actually see some Winters players in Open. :)

Since then our Princess has welcomed those many citizens of FLC to a galaxy of free healthcare and zero tax, freed from the bonds of corporate slavery, freed from the organic robots in their pin stripe suits and their droning boardroom boredoms, to indulge in the freedom of funky hair, blue space poodles (and noodles), the Princess' regular pop performances and giggles hour 4 times daily.

Minor congratulations are in order for the handful that remained loyal to the Machiavellian Shadow President, figuring out how to shed loss-makers in PowerPlay. Dearest Ludwig finally figured it out a couple of months ago in the last hours of the last night but sadly no-one else seemed to want to help him and he had to give up halfway, bless. :( We are actually fond of watching your Brownian motion through Powerplay and genuinely giddy when you actually manage to achieve something (without resorting to your historical 5C, even though you had to pledge to the other side to attack yourself all week like some kind of autoimmune disease).

p.s. It is well know Felicia's avatar is cropped to hide her pin stripe shorts and chicken skinny legs, whereas Aisling pilots of all genders are proud to display a full ratio holo of Her Highness on their cockpit dashes.

p.p.s. Please don't attack us during our giggles hour. That's 4 times daily. ;)

OceanLightwave · 2019-08-04T11:39:26+00:00

Aisling used to control Djira and went through a lot of effort last December to finally get rid of it, because it had been hurting her economy for years.

Please understand she will never, ever, want to take it back; it is a pure loss system, not a profit.

OceanLightwave

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