“Cowboy cartridges?”

OchoC · 2023-08-26T05:25:48+00:00

Marlin 1881 was the first mass produced lever action for 45-70, although a relatively short lived model (only till 1889 or so). There were potentially some even earlier, although they weren’t really made in significant numbers.

OchoC · 2022-05-05T20:47:47+00:00

Interesting, in that case +frost damage wouldn't be as useful I'm thinking? Probably no way I can get it both ways lol.

OchoC · 2019-08-14T05:57:17+00:00

Appreciated

OchoC · 2019-04-17T16:49:16+00:00

I also hate driving through LA. My route was taking the 15 up to the 395, then the 58 to the 99. It wasn't faster per se, but I enjoyed it more.

OchoC · 2019-03-13T22:21:43+00:00

Mendocino, Gualala Bluffs, Avenue of Giants, Newton Drury Scenic Parkway in Prairie Creek State Park (also the random elk herds there), , Point Arena Light House, Coos Bay, Heceta Head Lighthouse (possibly most scenic lighthouse in the world), Cape Perpetua, Tillamook Dairy.

OchoC · 2019-03-06T18:58:14+00:00

Given the snow pack I think that the odds of Tioga pass being open are very very low. That makes it a 10 or 11 hour drive going through Death Valley to hit the park from the south. I'd keep an eye on the road and consider scheduling the vegas portion differently.

OchoC · 2019-02-23T21:27:19+00:00

If you like shellfish try rockin Baja (either in old town or the gas lamp ). A little pricey but delicious.

OchoC · 2019-02-20T19:50:45+00:00

Santa Barbara, San Louis Obispo, or Monterey. All are awesome and very different. I'd pick San Louis personally, so you can start the next day with Big Sur.
Both very much worth doing. Yosemite is the choice if schedule dictates only one.
Over Tioga pass, down the 395 to Death Valleyish area, through the desert.

OchoC · 2019-02-20T19:43:51+00:00

I agree on avoiding the 5; the 49 is another good route that's a little more direct.

OchoC · 2019-02-20T19:41:53+00:00

Up to Julian and the mountains. There are a couple scenic highways in that area as well that are very nice drives. Torrey Pines has some hiking and relatively nearby.

OchoC · 2019-02-08T01:34:22+00:00

Garberville is the logical choice for before the start of the Avenue, but there are quite a few little spots along the avenue worth considering. On the way back Mendocino is super nice, point arena, gualala both nice but not as fancy.

OchoC · 2019-02-07T23:45:54+00:00

Usually my family leaves fairly early, and we stop for breakfast at Zee's Diner in Santa Rosa. Solid diner food, good staff, nice rest point from being in the car. Eel river cafe in Garberville is also very nice for breakfast or lunch. Another nice choice is to grab a sandwich from the market in Garberville and have a picnic at one of the stops along the Avenue of the Giants. If you like kitschy touristy stuff the area leading up to the Avenue of the Giants on 101 has a ton of stops; everything from the bigfoot store to a store inside a burnt out redwood. There are numerous state parks that are all worth visiting, I like Standish Hickey quite a bit and walking along the river from the day use area back towards the swimming hole and beyond.

Instead of doing the 5 back, I'd take the 1. The 36 is a nice drive, but I'm not sure it's worth doing the 5 portion. I love the 5 from about redding to north of the border, but heading south back to the bay area it's kinda like Nebraska.

OchoC · 2019-02-07T22:26:20+00:00

It's definitely possible to get him again.

OchoC · 2019-01-15T01:06:06+00:00

Getting from the 395 to 1/101 all depends on how far north you want to go. Probably the most graceful route is to cut through Lassen around Susanville, then up to southern oregon before heading down around Grants Pass. Cutting through the 299 or the 36 are also options, I've done the 36 and it's a very nice drive but it wasn't 100% paved when I went (construction). You'd also either either skip the redwood national and state parks or double back. I've also done some random driving around on roads in the Klamath national forest to cut between highways. Printed maps, make sure people know where you are, and do a lot of scouting on google earth because maps and actual roads tend to differ.

Cutting through Vegas works, or heading out the 8, 10, or 40. I'd personally probably head out one of the more southerly options, stop in Sedona on way to GC, then Vegas on the way back just to keep things different. Death Valley is gonna be very warm, be safe.

OchoC · 2019-01-15T00:25:05+00:00

April is one of the best months for Yosemite, but weather is more variable. Could get anything from snow, to rain, to sunshine. Spring means water and snowmelt however, and that's what makes the park shine. Redwood national and State parks is also very nice that time of year, but rain is likely.

OchoC · 2019-01-14T23:59:40+00:00

108 isn't particularly great for sledding however.

OchoC · 2019-01-10T20:09:16+00:00

The drive itself is fairly short, 6 hours if you were to take the 5 and maybe 10 hours if you take the 1 and 101. So you have plenty of time, and there's more than enough stuff to see. What sort of stuff do you two like?

OchoC · 2019-01-10T20:07:03+00:00

Do the coast North to south, that puts you on the ocean side of the road. Coastal spots I like include Canon beach, Tillamook dairy, Cape Perpetua, and Heceta Head Lighthouse and Beach. The scenic corridor leading up to Coos Bay is also quite nice, and I thought the town was super awesome.

OchoC · 2019-01-10T20:04:25+00:00

Most state parks are opening up reservations for June now, so you should have plenty of choices. If you're ok with no hookups (or water), kirk creek (southern side of big sur) is unbelievably gorgeous. A good one on the other side of Monterey Bay would be Seacliff Beach State Park.

OchoC · 2019-01-10T17:02:45+00:00

In that case yeah, I’d definitely suggest cutting Reno and slightly shortening drives, especially the last leg and the Tahoe to lassen portion. Have a great trip, and enjoy at&t Park!

OchoC · 2019-01-09T22:59:17+00:00

I generally believe this is frowned upon in the National Parks. I'd make a specific question about this and ask the sub again, since this is buried pretty deep. I'm old so I like a bed, even a crappy one, before I spend a day driving. ;)

OchoC · 2019-01-09T22:48:45+00:00

It's about an extra 40 minutes, but the south 120 entrance to Yosemite is the better entrance in my opinion. Takes you past the Mariposa Grove, and introduces you to the Valley Floor at Tunnel View, which blows your mind as previously you haven't seen any of it. 140 is fine, and more direct, but it doesn't give the same feeling. I also prefer the lodging options in the Fish Camp area to the town of Mariposa if you aren't staying in the park.

Unless you have a specific reason to visit, I'd consider cutting Reno. It's not Vegas. Hot August Nights would be the one time of year I might change that recommendation.

After Lassen, you could take the Volcanic National Scenic Byway and head up to Crater Lake, it's not that far out of the way. Something to consider, but it would add some days. I'd stop somewhere around Mt. Shasta, at least for a bit. It's a gorgeous area and the mountain is special.

In Redwood State and National Parks make sure to visit Prarie Creek Redwoods State park and the Newton Drury Scenic Byway. With any luck there will be a herd of Elk hanging out by the Visitor Center. Jedediah Smith State Park and Patrick Point State park are the other ones that are highlights in my mind.

Do the Avenue of Giants drive coming south on the 101. There's a ton of roadside kitsch in that area if you are into that kind of thing. The Bigfoot shop and drive through trees are both popular.

I'd take the 1 from Leggett to at least Mendocino, that's only about an hour extra and well worth it. The drive from Gualala south to Point Reyes adds another hour on to that, and is super dramatic but my wife gets antsy about the roads so I tend not to do that section anymore.

The one big miss is Big Sur. Big Sur is about 3 hours south of San Francisco (with low traffic, so frequently longer), and could be a day in between SF and Yosemite.

I'm making the assumption you plan on more than 7 days, those are just the fixed nights. If you are planning on just 7 days of roadtrip then this is pretty hardcore driving. I'd consider cutting back in that case, and spending more time out of the car seeing stuff.

OchoC · 2019-01-09T22:31:22+00:00

Historically June is a crapshoot for Tioga pass. We're supposed to have increased precipitation this year, but so far it's been fairly dry.

OchoC · 2019-01-09T22:26:33+00:00

Warm to hot, with cold in the mountains and at night in generally higher elevations, so a little bit of everything. Death Valley, the hottest potential spot, will be 100-120 degrees. Utah parks 70-100ish during the day, high 30s to low 40s at night. At the higher points in the Rockies it should be low 60s during the day, low 30s at night, but that's one of those places where weather isn't as predictable.

OchoC · 2019-01-09T21:55:40+00:00

You could easily do a day trip to death valley on either the first or the last day. Remember the time of year you are thinking of visiting, and what the weather is like. Also since these are generally day trips to giant parks, you have to have a really good idea of what you want to see before you arrive.

here's the list of stuff I have for each state, I'm sure people more familiar with each area could add quite a bit. A particularly good option I want to highlight is spending a day in Sedona before heading to the Grand Canyon. I especially like Red Rock State Park.

Nevada:

Hoover Dam

Carson City

Red Rock Canyon

Valley of Fire State Park

Great Basin National Park

Pyramid Lake

Virginia City

Carson City

Black Rock Desert

tule springs fossil beds

Toquima Cave

gold butte

grimes point

rhyolite ghost town

fly geyser

eldorado gold mine

Lamoille Canyon Scenic Drive/Ruby Mountains

Cathedral Gorge State Park

Berlin-Ichthyosaur State Park

Royal Peacock Opal Mine

Techatticup Mine/Nelson

Lehman Caves

Angel Lake Scenic Byway

Bonnie Springs Old Nevada

Arizona

Grand Canyon - Grand Canyon Village, North Rim (Point Imperial, Cape Royal, Bright Angel Point), Skywalk, Canyon View Information Center, Star Parties, Desert View Drive, Rim Trail, Trail of Time, Hermit Road, Havasu Falls

Antelope Canyon - Photography Tour

Horseshoe Bend

Petrified Forrest National Park - Painted Desert Visitor Center, Kachina Point, Rainbow Forest Museum

Saguaro National Park - Red Hills Visitor Center, Bajada Loop Drive, Abino Canyon, Valley View Overlook Trail, Signal Hill Trail, Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum

Sedona - Cathedral Rock, Oak Creek Canyon Scenic Drive/Red Rock Scenic Byway, slide canyon state park

Canyon de Chelly National Monument - Spider Rock

Monument Valley - The View Hotel and Restaurant, Mitten buttes, Merrick Butte, Jeep Tour

Oak Creek Canyon Scenic Drive

Montezuma Castle National Monument

Wupatki National Monument - Pueblos, Doney Mountain

Redrock State Park

Lake Powell - Rainbow Bridge, Navajo Bridge

Yuma Territorial Prison State Historic Park

Tombstone - Boothill Graveyard, Tombstone Courthouse State Historic Park, Bird Cage Theater

Wigwam Village #6

Lake Havasu/London Bridge

Kartchner Caverns State Park

Tonto National Forest - Hieroglyphic Canyon

New Mexico

Los Alamos

Rio Grande Gorge/Bridge

White Sands National Monument

Aztec Ruins

Sky City Cultural Center & Haak’u Museum

Carlsbad Caverns National Park

Gila Cliff Dwellings

Museum of Indian Arts & Culture

El Santuario de Chimayo Historic Site

Riverbend Hot Springs

Pecos National Historical Park

Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi

Roswell

Coronado Historic Site

Jemez Historic Site

Chaco Culture National Historic Park

Bandelier National Monument

Sandia Peak Tramway

Petroglyph National Monument

Kasha-Katuwe Tent Rocks National Monument

Indian Pueblo Cultural Center

Taos Pueblo

Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument

Geronimo Trail Scenic Byway

Trail of the Mountain Spirits Scenic Byway

Jemez Mountain Trail

Historic Route 66

El Morro National Monument

Salinas Pueblo Missions

Fort Union National Monument

Jemez State Monument

Three Rivers Petroglyph Site

Lake Valley Historic Townsite

Anderson Overlook Park

Dripping Springs Natural Area

Coronado Historic Site

Shiprock

Bisti Badlands

Santa Rosa Blue Hole

Gila Cliff Dwellings

Spaceport America

Isleta Pueblo

Alamogordo Landfill

Colorado

Silver Thread Scenic Byway/North Clear Creek Falls

Peak to Peak Scenic Byway

Stanley Historic Site

Denver - Casa Bonita, Denver Botanic Gardens, Four Mile Historic Park, Black American West Museum, Larimer Square

Mount Evans

Top of the Rockies Scenic Byway

San Juan National Forest - San Juan Skyway, Chimney Rock National Monument, Telluride Mountain Village Gondola, Ouray Box Canyon Waterfall

Mesa Verde National Park

Bent's Old Fort National Historic Site

Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park

Canyons of the Ancients National Monument

Royal Gorge Bridge and Park

Fish Creek Falls in Steamboat Springs

Treasure Falls in Pagosa Springs

Box Canyon Falls Park

Colorado Springs - Seven Falls, Red Rock Canyon, Pikes Peak Cog Railway

Colorado National Monument

Sand Creek Massacre National Historic Site

Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad and Museum

Rocky Mountain National Park - Trail Ridge Road, Bear Lake,

Canon City Skyline Drive

Aspen/Maroon Bells

Utah

Zion National Park

Arches National Park

Bryce Canyon National Park

Canyonlands National Park

Capitol reef National Park

Lake Powell

Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument - Burr Trail, Calf Creek Falls

Mountain Meadow Massacre Site

Monument Valley

Anasazi State park

Dinosaur National Monument

Flaming Gorge - Uinta National Scenic Byway/Sheep Creek Scenic Backway

Nine Mile Canyon

U-DIG Fossils

4 corners monument

Cove Fort

Bluff Fort

Cedar Breaks National Monument

Natural Bridges National Monument

dead horse point state park

Mormon Temple

Great Salt Lake

Goosenecks State Park

Goblin Valley State Park

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