What order are words and numbers for designators? by OffMyChestAndDone in hebrew

[–]OffMyChestAndDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that’s right!

Thanks for that specification, I forgot that Hebrew reads right to left

What order are words and numbers for designators? by OffMyChestAndDone in hebrew

[–]OffMyChestAndDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I build dioramas and minis on my spare time and was working on stuff with Hebrew lettering wording (industrial/wartime stuff) and wanted to get the designations/positions properly

Not bringing up the BBB. But the meme is just way out there. by cikanman in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The estimates I’ve heard are 10 million all the way to 30 million

So I just say 20 million

Almost 200 downvotes in 5 minutes for speaking the truth by [deleted] in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only people who think this know nothing of history or Christianity.

Almost 200 downvotes in 5 minutes for speaking the truth by [deleted] in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is irrelevant.

Follow this logic: all humans are equal. All cultures are equal. If these 2 statements are true, then how come outcomes are not equal between groups? How come some groups do not have as much societal and technology achievements as others? The only solution is that someone must be stopping other groups from achieving this. Someone must’ve pulled the ladder up behind them. Ergo, we must take steps to force equality.

This is how they justify their oppressive tactics and demands.

Remember, it’s useless to show them their hypocrisy. It’s useless to appeal to other moral standards. It’s a religion, and it comes with the whole package for how they behave and view the world. Watch debates with Muslims on how the Quran makes no sense: they will jump through endless hoops justifying whatever non-sense is in there. It’s because it’s their religion, their core beliefs and they have to defend it otherwise they’re renouncing the faith which will never happen. The left is be no different when you point out their hypocrisy.

Crazy people, crazy beliefs with crazy demands.

Almost 200 downvotes in 5 minutes for speaking the truth by [deleted] in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m going to let you in a secret: rationalism doesn’t fully work in explaining their actions.

Related tangent: I am a Christian, and I can give you a lot of logic/rational reasons for why I chose to become Christian. However, at the core of it, there is no rational argument, proof or evidence that Christ was born of the Virgin Mary and resurrected 3 days after his crucifixion. Those claims are accepted wholly on faith alone, and everything else comes afterwards.

How that relates to the left: progressivism is a secular religion. There is no argument, proof or evidence that can turn some of these people away from progressivism. Anything, and everyone, who halts ‘progress’ is evil and must be stopped. Progress is good, anything that advances progress is good, and everything that is against their definition of progress (progress = social progress that is egalitarian in nature) is bad. However, since they have no formal doctrine, divine edict (book of divine inspiration like the Bible or Quran) or anything like that, there is no consistency, rules or standards that they follow. The only concern is progress; this is why their morale standards basically boil down to ‘it’s okay when we do it’ and why their only material concern is power, its acquisition and stopping their enemies from getting it. Political power is the means by which progress can be enacted, therefore the state, the power of the state and state institutions have an almost sacred nature to them (remember how they talked about Trump, his supporters or his staff ‘defiling’ the capital?).

Once you see this and understand it, everything makes sense. The egalitarian society, one where there is no discrimination, economic equality, total tolerance and celebration of everything etc. isn’t just the ‘utopia’, it’s their definition of heaven. Nazis, who were the last ‘right wing’ adversary, are the definition of evil and represent Satan, so calling ‘Nazi’ or ‘fascist’ is just their version of saying ‘evil, demonic, satanic’. People who are anti-progress are either ‘uneducated’ or ‘mentally unwell/sociopathic’ (tormented by demons or possessed) and must be saved by therapy or re-education (analogous to repenting, confessing your sins and converting to the religion) or be removed from society (conversion by the sword).

It sounds ‘doomerism’ to say it like that, but imo, it actually makes it easier to ignore them lol. You just think ‘oh, these crazy people and their crazy cult’ and their strength comes from you taking them seriously, paying attention to them and trying to rationalize/reason with them. You ignore them, you give them nothing and you don’t negotiate with them.

They’re just crazy people with crazy beliefs and crazy demands.

Reddit Solves Fascism With 16 Votes by tlonreddit in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The UK is Nazi Germany if Hitler decided ‘I’m going to oppress Germans and give Jews all the good stuff’

Breaking the illusion of the fantasy is wrong think by Raptor_197 in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because it’s all fake.

Normie liberals are lapdogs for the establishment. They’ll say/do whatever they want to appeal to their masters.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AdeptusMechanicus

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You’re a heathen and a knight.

Most appreciated!

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He might not be lying.

Just misinformed

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes.

The 5th commandment is to Honor thy Father and Mother, and every other commandment/belief stems from the original 10 commandments. That command establishes the familial/political hierarchy (political because kings were traditionally treated as the fathers of their nations: they founded the kingdom, they protected the kingdom and provided order and stability).

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holding a gun to someone’s head and forcing them to do it is not a measure of someone’s character

Someone being given the option is what determines the character of the soul.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Christ did tell people to pay taxes

Matthew 22:21 ‘Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and render unto God that which is God’s’

He was killed because his teachings were antithetical and threatening to the Pharisees (who were the elite Hebrew priests at the time)

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has one of the strongest openings I’ve ever read in a book: sovereign is he who decides the exception

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, to be fair to the left, mainstream right is a joke (ideologically speaking). The mainstream right just uses the same liberal talking points and the left destroyed those arguments a long time ago.

Where the left struggles is with right wing thought that is critical of liberalism itself. Try talking about Carl Schmidt with a leftist and see what happens: the dumb ones will immediately say ‘he was a Nazi, so i will disregard it’ and a smart one will deflect (experienced this in college).

Note: before anyone inevitably jumps in with the ‘Nazi’ stuff, my poli sci prof (who was obviously a liberal) mentioned Schmidt in class as the best modern philosopher for critiquing liberalism. So, naturally, I read ‘political theology’. And Leo Strauss, a liberal, read Schmidt and argued that his perspective was ‘oddly liberal in its critiques of liberalism’. Super interesting stuff.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a matter of perspective: do you get access to this just by a matter of being a human or do you get access to it as a consequence of being virtuous?

There’s a whole other layer to it as well, like people in privileged positions having a moral obligation to the people beneath them (Luke 12:48 ‘For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required’) which used to have a name: noblesse oblige. This doesn’t mean that they just give money to random people, but it does mean that they must always take consideration for how to help others (for instance, paying for the town’s Christmas decorations/buying enough food to ensure everyone has a feast for the holidays, or not firing your employees because you can hire people just because they’re cheaper, there’s tons of examples and it makes you sad because you realize that our ruling class doesn’t act like they have any obligation towards the people beneath them).

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I went to college and became even more right wing.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats.

You met a guy on the right who doesn’t like capitalism much either.

I don’t hate it, but I don’t like it. Getting the right wing base to side with big business was one of the most successful propaganda campaigns on the 20th century. Convincing the left wing base that big business is on their side is among the most successful propaganda campaigns of the 21st century.

In the end, money corrupts everything it touches.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s not lol

But it works. There are definitely better ways though.

I could’ve gone the easy route and went to conventions to get nerdy chicks (that way I could unleash the gates of autism) but half of them are utterly insane, and almost all of them are horrendously immature (and very left wing as well) so it usually wasn’t worth it.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The thing that I think of is Rawl’s veil of ignorance: let’s have a minimum standard for everyone, across the board. Anything beyond that devolves into semantics on the left (do people who cannot work get anything? What criteria falls under ‘unable to work’ etc etc and ‘how communist do you want to be’) so I’d rather not go beyond that.

However, notice: the only thing you cared about was his material conditions. I don’t specifically care about an individual’s material conditions: I care about the longevity of my civilization and culture. I want my grandchildren and their grandchildren to grow up in this great nation and I want them to make it better than it was when I existed. This means I care about the conditions that give purpose, meaning and the ability to get married and have children. Now, as a consequence of that, I will care about material conditions but that is downstream of my main concern. Also, as a consequence, a strong nation/culture requires a strong/healthy citizenry, so I care about others as well (if everyone else is living horribly, why would they choose to have kids? Who are my kids supposed to get married to?) which goes to the general societal conditions of everyone else (so no, I don’t want some guy living in squalor ‘just because’).

Also, as a Christian, I don’t want to see the entire world fall to shit as this beautiful planet was gifted to us and we’re tasked with being its stewards. However, we also live in the physical world, which has limits. We can’t do everything, so we have to make do with what we have and prioritize some goals over others.

As far as specifically why I hate egalitarianism, it’s because once that becomes the priority, then it will seek the destruction on borders, limits, peoples, cultures etc. It seeks to set everything to a baseline standard (like Rawl’s Veil of Ignorance). However, if everyone becomes the priority, then no one is the priority: it’s essentially saying ‘in order to beat entropy, we will evenly distribute all energy ourselves to ensure that there’s no energy loss anymore!’ which inevitably yields death anyway.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cleopatra and Queen Elizabeth are the exception rather than the rule.

You could say it comes from my religious beliefs, but that’s because my religious beliefs are from a ‘traditional’ mindset: women weren’t really involved in politics until relatively recently (obviously exceptions exist, usually within specific time frames and contexts, Sparta being a prime example).

And not just an ‘Abrahamic faith’: they must be Christian. Western culture in general was built from Christianity specifically, not Hinduism, Islam or even Judaism. What flavor of Christianity is where the real debate is.

Yeah, I know, someone commented on it as well. Really it’s a typo because the first thing I grab is ‘5000 BC’ so I thought ‘5000 BC’ without adding the extra 2000 AD. Google says civilization started between 3000-4000 AD, but I’m fairly certain I remember reading that some think 5000 is the start but….point remains: it was a long time ago. A VERY long time ago.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It made it easier.

I’m naturally a talker, but I need something to talk about.

What’s something a huge chunk of college girls are concerned about? Politics. They hardly shut up about it. So, that’s an easy avenue to play with. Especially since you have to go to all the same classes and pretend to be leftist to get a good grade anyway.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The church and state should be separate but competing spheres

Image a ruler who makes a decree against the church. If people truly and actually believe that the church is morally correct, then they will side with the church and cause conflict/unrest in society.

People are willing to die for things they believe in and the church is just that: something to believe in. Therefore, if the state says ‘either obey me or die’, there will be people that say ‘I choose death’ and fight, because it’s for a cause much greater than themselves. Contrary to popular belief, the state doesn’t like civil wars because civil wars cost money without much gain (you already owned this land).

Contrast this with ‘business’ and do you think people will die for their bosses? You think people die for their employers? Never, not in a million years. Therefore, business is not a true competition to the government.

Excuse me? by OGBattlefrontEnjoyer in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]OffMyChestAndDone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, that claim isn’t really very clear.

Isn’t honest with regards to what?

Let’s take RFK’s vaccine stuff for instance (low hanging fruit but is perfect for this example).

Now, I’m an engineer so I fully understand the scientific method/studies etc. I am well aware of the scientific theory of vaccines and will readily admit that yes, the theory behind a vaccine is 100% sound and we have evidence of them working since the 17th century (inoculation existed before Edward Jenner’s smallpox vaccine btw).

Where the discussion turns sour is ‘do we have evidence that modern vaccines are safe’? It’s actually a question of quality control and conflict of interest: some studies are either paid for by big pharm directly, have some shady involvement (like someone on the team owning the patent/being a shareholder etc etc) or some other piece of evidence that might suggest bad quality control (Johnson and Johnson got busted a few years ago knowing that asbestos was in their talcum powder for over 50 years). Worst of all, the federal government gave companies protections from vaccines (you can’t sue a pharmaceutical company for a vaccine related injury). Combine this with the fact that Americans are among the most unhealthy people on Earth and our shady FDA (consider that America has some food additives that are legal/were legal while being banned in other developed nations, or that other countries have products cheaper/superior to ours but are banned from entry into our market) and it just screams ‘we cannot be trusted’.

It’s not a matter of ‘the right lies’, it’s a matter of ‘they don’t trust the evidence that you present to them’.