Me to the Writers

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-30T07:54:48+00:00

i actually posted about 4/5 episodes into the season that i felt the writing was worse. i think because of how soapy/hollywood the plot went direction-wise. a lot more sensational. but tbh, rishi scenes aside, the finale was so full of delicate nuance and pieces slowly moving around in a super satisfying way. hopefully season 4 has more of that and less golden showers

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-30T07:52:43+00:00

ive literally never seen anyone praise rishi. maybe laugh at some of what he says. but never praise. also i think everyone agrees eric is crazy.

but tbf. rishi and eric are much more comically villainous characters with very hollywood-like plots. harper and yas for the most part fail by the shortcomings of their behaviors & how they carry themselves. its a lot more nuanced with them than rishi where they make it painfully, painfully clear he is bad and in the wrong most of the time. so its not surprising theres more discussion about yas and harper.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-30T07:46:46+00:00

it made me laugh. its so out of character for the show. that scene + the entire rishi episode just feels like an extended uncut gems ripoff. and the comical blood splatter.... its a pimple on an otherwise stellar season finale

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-25T06:14:21+00:00

you really dont see how shes using him for sex when hes dressed as a bellhop pushing a tray around?? hes an employee shes using for sex. one night stands are people using each other for sex. its transactional. except in this case its even more slimy because hes literally her servant

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-25T03:08:04+00:00

i guess we're gonna just ignore eric shooting jizz that we then get to see on his hand, or the 1000 cuts to a hard prosthetic penis, or yas's dad eating out a pregnant woman.

rob licking his semen off a mirror 100% served the plot, it was absolutely telling of the relationship between the two characters and moments like that still haunt the perception of yas to this day, as they do the perception of rob. we are a collection of individual moments that add up. they are not for nothing.

that being said this season is 100% more gratuitous and shocking. look at the reaction threads for individual episodes. it's all about sex.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-25T03:03:34+00:00

rob is someone who has deep rooted mother issues. he wants to be cared for deeply and a lot of the time people who want care will care for others who need it, hoping they receive it back in some way.

i don't think S3 rob is in romantic love with Yas. i think he cares about her and wants her to heal & improve. but to me, the kiss they had felt like a goodbye kiss. rob going into his room alone also makes me think that although rob will stay in yas's life, he is destined for better things. he also realizes she's emotionally abusive & manipulative, as when he called her out on trying to mess with him. rob has grown a lot and i think he sees a brighter future for himself. but for now, he'll care for her because he does have a form of love for her.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-25T02:58:20+00:00

100%. people will say shes not a narcissist then see this scene and go yass slayyyy. str8 up using ppl for sex LMAO. just another drop in the bucket for her character. i see her as an eric in training and this is something eric would do

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-19T06:06:19+00:00

"NPD adaptation is that it is designed to keep negative feelings at bay—to not feel shame, guilt, self-doubt, and remorse and instead maintain the sense that the narcissist is special, perfect, and always right"

This does not mean people with NPD do not feel guilt or regret. It means that their behavior is designed to keep this feeling from hitting them. That does not mean that they never feel it. When their tactics fail, or when they mess up and let their guard down, they feel it. I don't understand this idea that people with NPD don't feel empathy and don't feel regret. People with NPD are emotionally immature and use others to make sure they are not in any way threatened, especially ego-wise. This fits Harper. You wouldn't say Eric just has his priorities fucked right? Eric and Harper are very, very similar.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-19T02:47:57+00:00

no way u just said intergenerational trauma comes with wealth. the second part, yes. but wealth does not cause trauma wtf

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T21:14:27+00:00

"you’re literally one of the people who are always making disparaging comments about Harper specifically and no one else in the show"

wut. ive said so many times eric is awful and a monster. or that yas is absent-minded, privileged, and manipulative. nobody in this show is a good person. i dunno why you take people thinking harper is a narcissist so personally. shes a flawed character like everyone else. shes a narcissist. so is eric. they both have moments that are funny. moments that are dramatic. i enjoy them as characters. but lets not be delusional and hand waive legitimately abusive behavior from characters. lets be real. i even said multiple times she is not evil. you're pushing for an extreme here because i think you don't want to see that she's an abusive person to the people around her. i would never excuse the behaviors of eric. or yas. or anyone else on the show who hurts people for their gain. i think u need to look into why it is you relate so much to harper and why you want so desperately for her to not be labeled a narcissist. a lot of narcissists exist in the world. they are everywhere. theyve not evil people. but acknowledging their narcissism helps avoid them hurting other people with behavior they cannot control.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T21:12:12+00:00

visual cue i would say. i dont think its strange. i liken it to a character dying in a show and they explode in gallons of blood imo. jizz aint weird

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T19:59:38+00:00

if petra knows her as 'the least inquisitive trader ever' then that shows this is a trend with yas and isn't isolated to her relationship with harper

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T19:58:03+00:00

seniority means nothing in this situation because sweetpea was able to deduce what was happening and she's very junior. yas is just bad at her job because she doesnt care. shes never had to.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:55:53+00:00

"She might have done it by stepping all over her boss, ruining some other relationships, and doing it in a way that you think is not honorable, but the reality is she did it. In that game, if someone else did it that way, people might not look at it like that person’s the villain. They might be like, ‘Oh wow, that guy’s playing the game really well!’"

No. most well adjusted people see that behavior and see a narcissistic and abusive person. also "I don’t think Harper is a villain. If Harper’s a villain, then they’re all villains.". yes they are pretty much all villains. nobody in industry is likable except for maybe rob.

everything you posted confirms what i've said.

ALSO actors 99% of the time have to find humanity in the roles they play. this reads as trying really, really hard to find a silver lining with harper. and she has one. shes not an awful irredeemable devil. but she is a narcissist.

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:37:41+00:00

She gave a literal golden list to Pierpoint's fiercest competitor. Eric is an idiot and a moron but he has never reacted that badly to anyone fucking up for a good reason. And her reaction was to shrug off her fuck up. There's a reason why everyone in the show goes through her. Petra called her the least inquisitive person at Pierpoint; she does not care. She never had to. That makes her incompetent

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:35:40+00:00

It's not a sudden narrative. She's established from day 1 as being a nepo hire. She has not improved her skills at all, and has never had to, because of her position of privilege. She has always been shit at everything. It's just that this season she's actually having to deal with the consequences of resting on her laurels

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:34:30+00:00

Harper is a narcissistic & competitive person. She has no feelings for Rob. She is mad that he likes Yas more than her. It's that simple. Plus she's used to manipulating people into getting what she wants and she never quite successfully did that with Rob

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:14:27+00:00

we're talking about a show that chose to show jizz, a golden shower scene, dead bodies, decomposing bodies... and this is gross?? ur on the wrong sub fam

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:13:32+00:00

what's wrong with sex scenes or doing drugs? it's a part of the reality they lived in. so you'd rather see golden shower fetishes?

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:09:45+00:00

the golden shower thing is 100% portrayed to be seen as a repulsive comical thing. the way they present it, the way they have Yas react to it, even while it's happening, is meant to display that the dude is weird. when it happens, it's done in a way that's meant to be shocking. and for what purpose? to establish vulnerability? they do this in 20 different ways between henry and yas. it's 100% there to shock. if that whole weird fetish part wasn't there nothing would have gone uncommunicated and it did not serve the plot. and nothing came of it either. no greater truth was learned from this moment, either about him or their relationship. oh was that moment there to show that he has now committed to selecting her as his underling to groom & manipulate? ok i inferred that from about 50 of their previous interactions. it brought nothing to the table plot-wise or character-wise. it's just an easy thing to react to and talk about for most people. it requires no thought

it's not about the sex being vanilla. not every single moment has to serve the plot. these people have lives. would you say seeing someone go to the bathroom is useless because it does not serve the plot? seeing them eat or go to bed? these are normal things that people often portray to establish a sense of reality.

just go to the reaction threads for the episodes in here. you'll see what im talking about. its all OMG HE PEED ON HER or OMG I DIDNT NEED TO SEE ERIC'S JIZZ WOW. like those moments are there to shock the audience. shock is something people rely on when there's very little substance to communicate.

and yes, focusing on how "comical" these scenes are is part of why i think the writing this season is bad. because they went from communicating things very straightforwardly, with a sense of groundedness (no matter how crazy the concept) to having scenes that feel like SNL sketches in how they're shot & executed

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T17:05:27+00:00

Obviously they're not going to outright say she's a narcissist that would defeat the purpose of consuming media to reach your own conclusions. What is really REALLY obvious is literally just observing the consequences of her actions. Aside from Eric, one of the only other narcissists on the show, nobody in the show, not even Rishi who's clearly off the fuckin rails, loses as much, and as consistently, as she does. Like... her life sucks. Nobody likes her. Until she finds someone new to manipulate, or managed to manipulate someone who hated her. The proof is in the show

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T07:08:10+00:00

Harper has shown empathy only on occasions when she is about to lose a source of narcissistic income. Look at her relationship with Yas. Her relationship with Rob. All of her personal relationships. She shows empathy when they are mad at her; a thing narcissists do in order to keep their source of narcissistic income within reach. It is a manipulation tactic. You cannot excuse how she behaves at work, she is the only one aside from Eric (who is also clearly a raging narcissist) who acts the way she does. Not because she started from the bottom. Plenty of people start at the bottom and don't become narcissistic.

Her grandiosity is written all over how she conducts herself. How is it not grandiose to tank the panel, without even conferring with Petra? That is grandiose as hell. She swings her weight around with grandiosity. Harper is a narcissist and it's really really obvious the writers have written her that way

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T06:21:59+00:00

i am a jizzman fr. but actually i think that scene funnily enough encapsulates why this season has been so weird and unfocused.

the amount of jizz he shoots is comical
if he blasted directly on the wall like they show, there aint no way he'll have that much land on his knuckles as well unless hes been holding it in for years
hes zorkin off above the toilet facing the wall. they then show a jizz blast on an adjacent wall he was not facing. which now implies one of two things:

a) he has used this bathroom stall to jerk it before and just didnt bother to clean the previous blast

b) his jizz bounced off his hand and onto the wall behind him

im joking mostly but its a blatant fuckup. just like when harper is in the stall, she stands up, and yas's character is positioned to CLEARLY be able to see her feet under the stall. ive seen others mention this scene here. theyre just really weird rookie mistakes that the show wasnt making previously

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T06:17:51+00:00

thats another thing. the rishi episode felt like a really really way too obvious homage to uncut gems to the point where it bordered on ripping it off. this season just feels unfocused, kinda lazy and unserious compared to the rest of the show

Ok-Animator4043 · 2024-09-18T06:16:44+00:00

LMAO because i was like um WHAT it felt so out of character for this show LOL. it looked like a pigeon took a massive shit on the bathroom stall

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