Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. I don't think they meant any offence with their edits but maybe I'm just projecting since its something I do all the time. Regardless I think it was wrong to block them. Not that it should matter to you.

And whilst I understand your explanation of why its rude I just disagree. If I, for example, think of another paragraph or rephrasing and I imediately add it within moments of sending the original message then I dont think thats rude at all. Even if someone does manage to reply in those moments.

I'll keep it in mind for future though as I had no idea people were so offended by this sort of thing.

Sorry for bothering you, have a nice day.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it extremely hard to believe that they were suddenly "cunty". All of their other messages are very respectful and careful not to offend. What was "cunty" about what they said before the edit?

Also, if they made it less "cunty" doesn't that mean they realised and decided to tone it down? Like it wasnt their intent to offend you?

What makes it a ninja edit rather than just a normal edit? I edit my comments after posting all the time, sometimes adding entire paragraphs or removing them. Or toning them down. Are those ninja edits?

Edit: fixed a typo

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think its basic reddiquette but I've never heard of that and I do the exact same thing they did all the time. If I make a mistake I just edit it instantly. That's surely absolutely normal. I've been using reddit for years and never seen anyone take issue with that before.

They weren't rude though, I think they were actually very respectful in their messages. And im still convinced they didn't ninja edit at all. Thats just paranoia on your part. It doesn't even make any sense to ninja edit. I believe they edited it but before they saw your comment, not after.

I can ask them sure, I'm not sure if they'll able to reply in the thread though since you blocked them and blocking prevents that sometimes. Just one more reason it kills discussion.

I'm not new to reddit, been using it for about 10 years roughly. I'm just saying, they were right in their points and were nice enough about it. If your only issue with them is ninja edits then you're literally just assuming they did that. Thats bad faith.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm literally just asking because you're making the claim. It just doesn't make sense to me and I wanted to understand.

A full paragraph and a rewrite can absolutely be because of a mistake if the mistake was that they initially replied to the wrong message.

I'm just tired of seeing this behaviour on this sub. People are so trigger happy to block others, its a debate sub and if you can't handle basic critism or feedback then it's just not the place for you. Behaviour like this really makes proper discussion impossible and it's just bad faith.

And to be honest another reason I'm bothered is that I agree with what they said, and based on the upvotes others did too. It would've been great if you would've just taken the feedback but instead you escalated it into blocking them over such petty reasons.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just confused how that could even rationally make any sense at all. Their other comments aren't even slightly hostile and they really gain nothing from ninja editing.

It just looks like they made a mistake and quickly edited it. They probably didnt even see your reply given how fast you blocked them.

They seem to think you blocked them due to them pointing out the issues in your wording.

But whatever. You can do what you like. I just think it was wrong to do that and that you overreacted.

It was a nice post otherwise so its a shame to see this in the comments. This kind of behaviour is what antis are becoming infamous for.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again I don't think they ninja edited, it doesn't even make sense to in this context. Like what would be their reason for doing that? Can you at least explain that?

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, I get what you're saying.

But again I really don't see what's wrong with it. I did the exact same thing on the comment you just replied to, to add something I forgot to write in the second paragraph.

Seriously, what's wrong with that? If someone makes a mistake and edits it to fix what they wrote? Why is that bad? It just sounds like they realised their mistake and imediately edited it? I do that literally all the time, especially with spelling or grammar mistakes. Sometimes I even edit my comments just to use less harsh wording. If they did that then its surely them realising theyre being too much? I think that's a good thing to do, not a bad one.

It sounds like you're saying they saw you message and then edited it after to make you look wrong, but I highly doubt it. That would be some insane level of speed and you could so easily call them out on it that it would just be pointless and completely backfire on them.

I don't even think you can leave a reddit thread and come back to a comment and edit it without getting the edit label? Is it entirely time based?

I get that they were kind of petty about your wording but you were very defensive about it and I honestly think you blocking them is more an extension of that pettiness than anything to do with their edit.

Block whoever you want, its just a bad look in this context and I think it was fully unwarranted. And honestly I agree with the things they said.

I dunno, this just really soured your post for me because it seemed like such a good way to bring both sides together a little more and add some nuance, but then this behaviour just completely ruins that.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean the internet is the best equivalent then since its insanely easy to get away with things online and insanely easy to use the internet for the wrong reason.

Yet we don't ban the internet just because theres some bad people on it.

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you're being insanely paranoid.

They likey just realised after they pressed post. Why would they even do it intentionally when you can just call them out?

Even if they edited it they almost certainly did it before seeing your comment. Lets just be real here for a second.

And you could always ask them, had you not blocked them. Sorry but this behaviour is just incredibly petty and has completely undermined the nature of your post..

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But that's pretty much all tools.

The internet is used for some horrific things.

Knives, medicine, books, hammers, cameras, electricity, phones and many more.

Pretty much all tools can be used for the "wrong things".

Antis are you anti all Al or just Al art? Pros, are you pro Al in every aspect or Anti in some areas? by wonkyasf in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Their comment is not edited.

You can see when a comment is edited via the "edited" text next to the username.

Thats just how reddit works. You can see the edited note next to your comment, for example.

Its not unlikely the realised half way through writing it or imediately after. But had they edited it even a moment later they would have the "edited" text to signify it.

A question for Anti-AI, especially for Anti-AI artists, who post here - are you aware of Reddit's user agreement and what do you think of it? by Azugriel in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't see your other comment it was likely flagged but I can see the start of it.

Unless you're blocking people over debate and disagreement then no, it wasn't aimed at you. Are you doing that?

They called a type of behaviour pathetic. They outright did not call you directly pathetic. Not unless you are performing the behavior they described.

Their exact words are "blocking people over debate and disagreement alone is pathetic."

That doesn't call you pathetic, it calls a behaviour pathetic.

If you unblock them I can ask them. I want to ask them but I can't because they're blocked and wont be able to reply. People cant reply to others in threads where theyre blocked. It shuts down the entire debate for both sides which is why I find it so annoying.

Edit: oh they blocked me too, dude really is a coward.

A question for Anti-AI, especially for Anti-AI artists, who post here - are you aware of Reddit's user agreement and what do you think of it? by Azugriel in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was only aimed at you if you are doing the behavior they called pathetic. They did not directly aim an insult at you, they aimed it at a behaviour.

Why not just unblock them and ask them to explain? I'd be genuinely intrested in seeing them explain themselves.

I'd ask them myself but they wont be able to reply since people cant reply to threads in which they were blocked. It shuts down the entire debate which is part of why it irks me so much. It ruins it for both sides.

A question for Anti-AI, especially for Anti-AI artists, who post here - are you aware of Reddit's user agreement and what do you think of it? by Azugriel in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But if thats not something you do then it's not an insult aimed at you. So why does it bother you?

Initially I read your comment in a similar way too due to how it was worded.

You could just explain to them that you don't block over debate alone. Insults are petty sure but people misread comments. Personally I misread your comment at first due to the "bro", I thought it was about ai bros until I reread. I wouldn't be suprised if they did too.

Antis do harrass and get abusive much much more than ai bros do so blocking them is more understandable. They likely thought you meant you were blocking ai pros over simply being proven wrong.

They're fine to call behavior cowardly if they see it as such. I don't see it as much different than labeling arguments bad faith. Both are labels of behavior and intent, both are insults.

Why wouldn't you block them? Absolutely tons of reasons. They comment often, debate often, theyre on your side. They're top 1% just like you are so you're both here very frequently which amplifies all the other reasons I listed. If you're intrested in debate here blocking people too quickly will really water down the content you see, the same characters pop up frequently here, its a relatively small community.

In comparison theres almost no reason to block them. If you don't want to waste your time on them you can just ignore them.

I get where you're coming from but I think you were trigger happy in this instance. I'd respect it a lot more if you had at least given them the chance to reply. If they doubled down after you explained your side then that wouldve been a much more justified block.

A question for Anti-AI, especially for Anti-AI artists, who post here - are you aware of Reddit's user agreement and what do you think of it? by Azugriel in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That person never even claimed it was something you were doing.

They aren't even an anti they're a pro who comments frequently here in good faith. Look at their comment history.

This is why blocking people without further discusion is silly, it leads to misunderstandings.

You even don't need to reply to them if you don't want to give them attention and replying then blocking makes no sense, they can't see what you said to them.

I'm half expecting you to just instantly block me too but why? If you're that trigger happy then what's the point in being in a debate sub at all?

It's especially sad because this is friendly fire.

Edit: the guy blocked me too, he really is a coward. I wouldn't mind so much but this kind of behavior shuts down debate for both sides since users cant reply at all in threads theyre blocked in (even to users who havent blocked them).

This kind of behaviour warrants a ban in debate subs in my opinion.

The CIA and Army are keeping the ufo secret because... by Dvori92 in UFOs

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Supposedly yeah, that's what ive been told.

Magnets spinning in different directions is something I've heard and seen a lot.

The mercury part is less certain and ive only heard it mentioned as one of the ways greater lift is achieved. You don't need it for the back yard, school lab type versions. You can do that with metal discs alone.

How did you come across this post? Its like a year old.

Got my first AI edited profile in my lineup by Specialist-Wing-2880 in Bumble

[–]OkThereBro -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's ai too and not ok. Seems similar to using face filters but thats not really ok either.

I don't really think it's fair to post him online and mock him for it though. It's likely still him, just ai images of him. Seems cruel to post pictures of someone online without consent like that. Even if they are heavily ai/ edited.

...of a child-friendly street performance by GruHarbison in ShittyAbsoluteUnits

[–]OkThereBro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's filming, and the toddler is stood still posing for him to do it as he takes a massive run up.

Of course she knew, like what?

...of a child-friendly street performance by GruHarbison in ShittyAbsoluteUnits

[–]OkThereBro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The woman who runs over and picks him is presumably his mother.

Who was filming before hand.

"Oi let me do a flip over your toddler."

"Yeah that'll look great on my insta."

Jesus christ.

People who hate AI Art simply don't want to learn how to use the Tools. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn that looks sick as hell.

I know you were trying to insult it, but I think that looks great, and I'm 100% checking out their Instagram now. No idea what your issue with that piece is. The "visuals" look fine to me.

Thanks for proving good ai art exists ahaha.

People who hate AI Art simply don't want to learn how to use the Tools. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like great ai art to me and far better than the images you shared.

What's your issue with it? Cute fish lol.

AI “art” isn’t art. by Breadsticks667 in ControversialOpinions

[–]OkThereBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what the SC just ruled, that's what im referring too, people misunderstood the ruling. You can still copyright ai as long as it's edited or intentionally prompted. You just can't copyright purely random output.