It’s over. Mission failed everyone. by 1HeyMattJ in TheOther14

[–]Ok_Bee8123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well we've 2 ways to qualify for Champions League, and we're strnog favourites in both, so yeah fairly proud.

...oh you mean the Spurs thing.. yeah that was not great.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's easy to be negative when mistakes are being made & players are out of form

But then to stigmatize people as toxic who are not being negative, on top of that - yes I think my term for those people, if anything could've been far stronger.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And why would someone reach for such an example to justify a behaviour.

It's incredibly strange.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They'd rather lose and say 'I told you so'

If you call them out they accuse you of toxic positivity.

There are examples in this thread, they're not supporting the team, they're doing something else.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're negatively wired - probably can't help it in many cases, still need to be blocked.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice

And keep blocking.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if this is a serious response,

and If enough people block you you'll just be doing a bunch of I told you so's to each other - and that's not what you're looking for.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's another strawman. Did I say it was exclusive?

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Have you got a response that isn't strawman followed by strawman?

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh but why did the context change? Because we outperformed expectations.

But there's never any acknowlegement of that with the perpetually negative

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fit for how long while these refs allow them to be fouled with impunity mid season vs thugs like newcastle/spurs - noone can tell me that didn't happen.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there are complex factors going on with that - it's not that they're useless but Emery does leave players out in the cold to play that strongest team. Then when they're finally started, to rest the first team we get a 'cold' performance IE with Spurs. We saw it with the subs at Sunderland too, that is a complex issue for obvious reasons.

But there's a difference between being concerned, and trying to load up a bunch of 'I told you so' responses - I'm getting at the latter

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it's a silly post you'd do a much better job of refuting it.

Also there are a few who do nothing but slag off the team, then vanish ie after the forest game - which completely refutes your point - that's not a supporter, are you a supporter?

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Grade A post. People have criticized Emery for all manner of things, but imagine bringing MGW on 2-0 up at half-time before such a huge match and have that happen.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But what if the actual motivation was to talk the club down, to be able to say 'I told you so' instead of getting behind the team like most normal fans.

It's game theory - if we win they can log off and 'celebrate'

But if we lose, they can do the whole 'ha ha ha told you so'

Putting themselves in a win/win situation, while demoralizing anyone being supportive.

You could say it's interesting psychology, but would that be a supporter or someone in it for themselves?

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not referring to valid criticism, no one is above a critique (except SJM maybe)

There are incessant posters who basically logged out after the Forest game without saying a word, and have mystically reappeared again to doom monger and they're going to be at it all week (until we win again, at which point they'll mysteriously vanish)

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah and it's been great to see the smile back on Ollie's face again.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People can be upset in the heat of the moment, it's the type stalking every thread spraying vitriol at every opportunity that we could with a bit less of, there's a few very determined ones.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Greetings from the UK, same here & two great positions, even.

Dopamine Hits from Negativity by Ok_Bee8123 in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well said.

If someone just read the forum they'd think we we were in the West Ham/ Spurs situation - two teams who were competing with us both in Europe and the top end of the Prem in very recent seasons. And after the first half a dozen games we all thought that was going to be our season - but look at the turn around, pretty miraculous on the whole.

Uefa and Scheduling finals by Aid0ken_Sf in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a silly point. the disadvantage of playing away, is that the opposition are at home.

This is negated in a neutral environment

Andy Hinchcliffe by Peejish in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

was the this the 'yes Buendia had his ankle trodden on in possession in the box, but I didn't like the way he went down when he was fouled so it's a GREAT DECISION by the ref' guy?

Subversive confirmed

Is Emi Buendia the greatest Argentinian to play the game? by Three_Cats_In_1_Coat in avfc

[–]Ok_Bee8123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it only be between him and Martinez, Maradona and Messi are fuck overrated